Oh, yeah? So which injuries on Pat's teams have kept us from winning the Big Ten? You're talking about missing D'Wayne Bates. I don't recall a player of that caliber missing 11 games in a recent season. Please share.
Well, of course that would be wonderful. I can't really do anything but hope you're right. There's no question that FItz is here for the next few years unless he does so well that he gets hired by the Bears or something. And if that were to happen, I wouldn't be able to complain.
Uhhh, yeah, but Barnett took over a garbage pile and I'm not talking about Mount Trashmore.
If "we all know the program was in much better shape when (Fitzgerald) took over" then what the hell, man? You just admitted your response sucks.
That's revisionist history. We did NOT suck in 1998 because Barnett "wasn't even believing his own message."
In 1997, we went 5-7 because D'Wayne Bates got hurt during the week one shutout of Oklahoma. Bates missed 11 of 12 games. We lost to Wake by 7, Rice by 6, Wisky by 1, and #2 PSU by 3...
It's a little bit surprising that it has taken 10 years to be "capable of competing with the elites of our conference." Just a couple of years before he took over, didn't we beat OSU? Have we beat them since then? (Answer: No.)
We were "capable of competing with the elites of our conference"...
How are you defining sustained success? Big Ten titles? Zero. Rose Bowls? Zero. BCS Bowls or Playoff Appearances? Zero. Number one rankings? Zero. Top 10 rankings? Zero. Wins vs. Ohio State? Zero. Wins vs. Michigan? One (I think).
Here's a big one. Big Ten record? 41-48. Better...
Yeah but what about Foghorn Leghorn? He's got some girth and personality. He's every bit as likely to contribute to NU basketball as the likelihood of Bagley to NU.
You'd rather go 7-6 and win a lower-tier bowl game than be the Big Ten champs and lose in the Rose Bowl.
You make a lot of sense. Are you related to Adam Cushing?
You are saying that they are terrible but not train wreck terrible. Do we have a chance at just being crappy this year? Maybe in two more years we will be mediocre.