without a doubt many of those (Rochester Byron) elite contextual to their levels but among the elite teams in the state as a whole? I don’t think so and I don’t even think it’s fair to compare.
Neither of those teams getting a game scheduled with IMG National or American Heritage bc they and...
I have zero credibility here and I’m ok with that.
I do think I’ve made a fair point. Ppl can disagree that’s ok.
But if you’re trying to sell the good ppl on this board that LA and MC recruit equally I have a Chicago Bears stadium to sell you in Hammond, Indiana
No one wins 99% of the time. That would require a new label.
Last five years is ESL elite program or one that has consistently been a disappointment per what was expected of them given insane levels of talent.
it’s a really simple thesis and question.
For sure and thankfully so! That Fenwick game was so fun bc it was so impossible for them to do that.
Georgia and Alabama (Saban yrs) that stuff is rare. For ESL it’s too commonplace ONLY bc of the absolute studs they have on that team *consistently*
Yeah I knew that was coming.
See my comment ESL one of maybe 3 (2?) that can go up against natl powerhouses and be respectable at least.
then add Illinois 6a to that thought.
Then add in 3 finals they lost to Cary grove twice and Fenwick once. Both very very good programs to be sure. But….
It’s a fair point. Programs that play insane schedules and consistently win.
everyone dogging on LA for that win against IC
that was the epitome of ELITE. Up against *ELITE* talent that torched you for a half. Shut them down in the second. And do that kinda thing year in year out. Just as MC does.
Wait just did this for Loyola and Mt Carmel.
I stand down from my semi final argument. Not a good one! 😂. Both LA and MC semifinals where they moved on were against impressive teams im sure but probably not elite programs idk.
to your point @nonA91745 who is elite is a good question. For me MC...
Let me back up. I have zero interest in railing on ESL one of maybe 2-3 teams that could consistently play top talent across the country and win or at least make a respectable showing.
I’ve spent time down in ESL and I’ve seen first hand the immense challenges that community faces daily. It’s...
Gents,
go back 10 yrs but that’s being too generous. Just the last five.
Earning the elite label is not a God given right. Past five yrs not elite no way no how. Should have boat raced Carey and Fenwick. Didn’t.
6a for a team that loaded with p4 superstars annually. Laughable. Not on the...
With massive respect to Cary Groves wrestling/football team(s) an elite football program they are not. 2-0 in finals against ESL. Elite *team* beating the conventional all star group of individual. See also Fenwick last yr. Elite kids. Not elite program.
Exhibit A re asterisk that should be put...