Duke game thread 8/15/18
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Duke is a 3 man team surrounded by average players. Kentucky is better 4-10
It’s the scientific meaning for ******.
Here’s the problem. They have a top 5 and the top pg yet to play. All those white dudes will be shooting lights out come tournament. Won’t be happy until Sienna or some team knocks them out first round
Yo puke fan, enough already.
We all know, just come clean.
I watched 5 min of their game and I’ll be honest. I’m not as excited for this season. We have to listen to jay bilas and I just learned from watching that 5 min I would rather hear nails on a chalk board than to listen to windbag dookie.
I need some antidepressants after listening to him
I need some antidepressants after listening to him
For anyone who watched the Duke game, did Bilas mention our games? Did he talk about us at all?
I saw that too. Dude comes over here and trashes us because we say positive things about our team, calls us homers, but goes over to the duke board and sucks their weiners. What a jackass.
Duke fans are over there getting all giddy about their team too and they only beat scronny little Ryerson team by 19. Yes, a couple of good guys were out, but they have shooting, defensive and depth problems.
But according to @mrbud we are homers, but duke fans are just supporting their team. #jackass
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You only can play 5 players at once and Duke arguably has the best 4 on the floor in Tre Jones, Cam Reddish, RJ Barrett and ZION.
People forget about Tre but he's higher ranked than Quickley and Hagans and is supposed to be the best passer in the class.
Rivals has Hagans 1 spot ahead of jones. Not much of a difference. I know but enough to counter your 4/5 best on the floor argument. And you could also make a case that sophomore Quade is better than freshman Jones.
That said I don’t agree with all the ratings. I’ll have to see Reddish more but I was never super impressed with him in the first place. I actually like keldon more as a player because of his motor and defense. I think Reddish will struggle with quicker guards.
If I had to rank the projected starters from the 2 teams I’d go:
1 Barrett
2 Zion
3 Johnson
4 Washington
5 Richards
6 Green
7 Quickley
8 Reddish
9 Jones
10 Bolden
I was not very high on Quickley either until I watched him in the Bahamas. It is a small sample size so grain of salt and all that but he did some things that surprised me. He seemed to do everything well. Shot the ball well, rebounded, distributes, defends, ran the offense, took care of the ball and has athleticism to spare.
Duke is a muscle car with three engines, one wheel, and a flat tire.
Plus I'm not to sold on Zion or Redden being better than KJ. Zion slipped in most final rankings other than espn huge shock I know . Redden doesnt have Keldons heart either. Just gonna say Barret is the only guy who is truly better than anyone on our team potentially. I still remember KJ yelling across the court at the McDonalds game. After a sequence where he drew a charge and got in Barretts grill defensively. Hit a shot to give his team the cone from behind win. "He got my spot! He got my spot!" Talking about Barrets ranking!
There is only one ball as well and those 4 can’t play the whole game and perform at a high level. You need a good solid bench to rely on thru a long season for these kids adjusting to a whole new level of play. You’ll realize this half way thru the season bud
I’m sorry. I don’t buy this Duke team at all. Last years squad was way more advanced than this team. Bagley and Carter were men out there. And they had experience, and they still didn’t do ****. Not a chance in hell they make a deep run. No depth, no impact post player. Do not compare to 2015. JO was a beast in college. They don’t have anything remotely close to that, nor do they have knock down shooters. Going to be a tough year in Durham when they get in conference play, and after UK mops the floor with their sorry asses.
so you think they can each log 40 minutes a game
your bench is H.S. level
you have no 3 point shooting to speak of (yep look at their stats from last year)
BTW you said both Reddish and Jones were 40%+ 3 point shooters which was not the truth
i know you are here to argue and instigate an argument, but your gun has only one bullet
Zion and RJ are the truth (that’s not a news flash). JD plays his role very well, Bolden is still trash, Jack white plays his role well (just spot up and shoot). Going by the stat sheet you would think RJ is the best player out there but watching it, if you know basketball, it’s Zion. RJ can score but it’s more in a Archie Goodwin type way (he’s better than Archie so not comparing them). It’s outside of the offensive flow and strictly one on one. Zion in the other hand scores within the offense more, doesn’t really force it and is a very good passer.
Zion has been what I said, a more athletic, shorter better ball handling/passing Julius Randle. Duke with its other two players will be a good team but definitely not deep. Zion will be able to adjust to ge other two coming back from injury but I’m curious to see how RJ adjust because of his Archie Goodwin type mindset. Duke should rightfully start out in the top 10 (I’d say about 5-7)
Zion has been what I said, a more athletic, shorter better ball handling/passing Julius Randle. Duke with its other two players will be a good team but definitely not deep. Zion will be able to adjust to ge other two coming back from injury but I’m curious to see how RJ adjust because of his Archie Goodwin type mindset. Duke should rightfully start out in the top 10 (I’d say about 5-7)
Zion is a beast. Not saying this team is better than that but Zion is better overall than JO. Both can score 15 plus but JO was straight trash on defense and that’s being nice. Trae is likely going to be the key because goldwire is a third string pg at best and RJ isn’t close to a PG because he doesn’t look to set anyone up but RJ
Undraftable nick richards over top 5 pick Cam Reddish? You have to start following a different sport because you have no idea what you’re watching.
The Chicago Bulls were a 3 man team surrounded by average players. Detroit was always better 4-10
The Chicago bulls had the best player ever to play in the nba. You are basketball retarded to compare that.
This might be the most accurate unbiased opinion from both Duke and UK board. The 4-10 is exactly why I think UK wins by 10
The Chicago Bulls had possibly the best player to ever live, a hall of Famer, two rebounding machines, and one of the best three point shooters ever. Your argument is invalid.
You mean inaccurate.
Comparing this puke team to one of the best NBA teams of all time as far as how they are put together?!?!?!????
Holy hell that is idiotic.
I think RJ is selfish as hell but arguably the best talent in college. Zion is a beast.
However, until he proves otherwise I think reddish will be average.
He is top 5 talent with little to no heart.
He is horrible on D and settles on O. Just doesn’t seem to have a motor.
And when Jones, reddish, Zion and ball hog Barrett are on the court together cam
Will get lost in the shuffle as he is the most passive. And when all
Those guys are out there trying to get theirs that is exactly what will happen.
If you think Nick is undraftable this year, you're nuts. He won't be as high as Cam but Cam has issues of his own. Read his scouting report. There are a lot of ifs and talking about potential and skills. The problem is, he has no motor. Will he learn that in one year at Duke, we will see.
I just got done watching nick Richards play really well against some above average big men. Can reddish hasn’t done crap against anything but high school comp yet. Gtfo with this nonsense. Jared Vanderbilt barely played and just got drafted. The draft argument is terrible.
And Duke may very well have the best player in college hoops this year. You have to be basketball blind to not be able to see that.
A lot of what ifs in there. Cam is top 10 on all mock drafts right now and nick is absent. Could that change, sure. But the original point is that it was silly to rank Reddish lower than Richards. Do you disagree?
Doesn’t matter. The original point made was that a team better 4-10 would automatically be superior to a team that had the best 3. I just gave a glaring example of that not being true.
You all had the best starting 5 last year by a mile and still couldn't make the final 4.
So take the position that nick Richards will be drafted higher than cam Reddish or that nick Richards is a better player than Cam Reddish. Otherwise you’re just making noise
Let's see Zion to go against men just once. Look who he is doing it against. Toronto U is horrible, they got beat by Carleton last year by 44! Among a lot of other teams that blew them out. I know he is good, but these Canada games are just 1 step above him dunking on little white kids in HS LOL. Here is their record and breakdown from last year:
https://varsityblues.ca/schedule.aspx?schedule=342&path=mbball
https://varsityblues.ca/schedule.aspx?schedule=342&path=mbball