The truth has been distorted kind of like a nc students gpa
NCAA: "UNC No Academic Violations"
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Housing is different because that rule was in place so that the athletes did not have Taj Mahal housing. As long as ALL students have Taj then that is okay too. So to the degree that all students have/had access to the same sham AA studies classes then that meets the NCAA criteria. Sham for all.
Oddly we see that the Coal Lodge was built to be in line with the OLD dorms as its baseline. Roll forward to today. Look at the new EDR dorms on campus today and the Coal Lodge pretty much sucks by comparison. So I think you do not take into account that the NCAA is fine with suffering as long as all other students suffer equally.
As for your belief that the classes were created to benefit athletes....it is much worse than that. It was created to make the elite feel better about by serving an "under-served" community. The bigotry of low expectations is at greater play than is winning games. To the degree that many of the student athletes in the FB and BB programs are in "underserved" communities then that was an extra benefit.
The Ville should be really mad, they getting the book thrown at them and UNC getting off scott free, tell me there is no politics in college BB..
NCAA IS THE BIGGEST JOKE IN SPORTS ! Something needs to be done about these ASSCLOWNS !!!!
And they essentially ignored this case until today.
NC had over 3 yrs to cook the books and grease some palms. Negotiations were for how much grease they were going to have to use
The FBI needs to investigate the NCAA for accepting bribes. I think Higgins needs to be on the hook as well.
After this showing of favoritism from the NCAA, how can you expect the refs they hire to be fair? Makes this year's Elite 8 game stick out even more.
So the precedent has been set.
Every single AD with a vacated banner needs to go back up.
Every single AD with a vacated banner needs to go back up.
Seven year investigation for something you say isn't your problem? Haha
And we are supposed to think an organization that would come up with this ruling wouldn't put a crooked ref in place to alter the outcome of an important game in March? The NCAA needs to be history.
And then have him awarded best official. Sports are tainted from this day forward. NCAA showed today not only can they be inconsistent in rulings, but they can flat out ignore a case if they choose to.
I actually am shocked by this.
I figured the NCAA would hand out a punishment, even if it was weak.
I did not expect them to do absolutely nothing.
I figured the NCAA would hand out a punishment, even if it was weak.
I did not expect them to do absolutely nothing.
The NCAA not getting involved in academic issues will be a shock to FSU and Bobby Bowden.....
His players took one on-line music appreciation course for a semester and it was self reported.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...-bowden-fsu-wins-mike-bianchi-0514-story.html
His players took one on-line music appreciation course for a semester and it was self reported.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...-bowden-fsu-wins-mike-bianchi-0514-story.html
So...if Pitino can show where he tipped a random UL student who worked for Papa Johns and delivered pizza to him...then he's A-OK with the NCAA and will be back coaching UL soon?
If you use NCAA logic, if some random UL student touched one of the whores, 'sall good.
Just watched 2 panelists on ATH kinda shrug off the uNCAA thing and talk about how every school has easy classes. How can they be so freaking uninformed? uNCAA wasn't accused of offering easy classes. It was accused of offering FAKE classes. Nonexistent classes. No requirement to appear in a classroom, no requirement for homework, no requirement to take any tests.
I hate ESPN and all their talking head shows.
I hate ESPN and all their talking head shows.
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This was not as hard of a case to judge as the NCAA made it out to be.
If the regional accrediting agency (SACS) penalizes the school for academic fraud, the NCAA should take those findings and rule that athletes who took those classes are academically ineligible.
As Dan Wetzel and Stewart Mandel point out, UNC stooped to the level in their defense that they all but came out and said that they weren't a college. Well then, why shouldn't they face penalties for competing in college athletics if they're not behaving as a college.
If the regional accrediting agency (SACS) penalizes the school for academic fraud, the NCAA should take those findings and rule that athletes who took those classes are academically ineligible.
As Dan Wetzel and Stewart Mandel point out, UNC stooped to the level in their defense that they all but came out and said that they weren't a college. Well then, why shouldn't they face penalties for competing in college athletics if they're not behaving as a college.
The NCAA better never us the term "student athlete" ever again!
And on PTI the uNCAA story was bumped all the way down to The Big Finish. It got 5 whole seconds of coverage and shrugged off as a seven year investigate that proved nothing happened. Gawd, I hate ESPN!
This is utter and complete ********, and the NCAA should be disbanded immediately. If I was UL I'd tell the NCAA to suck an egg, and every other school that's been punished over the years should do the same.
It's time for a major change, but how, and who can and will be the visionary to start the needed process?
It's time for a major change, but how, and who can and will be the visionary to start the needed process?
I'm already ready to see Sankey removed as commissioner of the SEC. Mike Slive or Roy Kramer were never this incompetent.
Lesson learned
Don't cooperate with the NCAA
Do not self impose anything
Make sure to sprinkle regular students in with the players getting benefits.
Fight everhthing with lawyers and delays
Don't cooperate with the NCAA
Do not self impose anything
Make sure to sprinkle regular students in with the players getting benefits.
Fight everhthing with lawyers and delays
Remember when UConn got punished for real grades in real classes not being good enough? Wonder how pissed their fans are right now?
If this was male/female issue it would at least be a title 9 violation...Apparently its ok per the NCAA for UNC to subjugate black athletes to a lesser form of education for the schools benefit in sports. How that isn't punishable by someone at some level is absurd and an embarrassment to all levels of education and sports. The only people who lost their jobs... where the whistleblowers.
I think the real blame falls on the accrediting body for not levying a substantial punishment they deserved which would then force the NCAA hand to deem the classes a complete fraud that they where and reevaluate player eligibility to vacate games, 2 titles, and require restitution to former students affected which would also have brought on real investigators for the misappropriation of state and federal funds.
As soon as the accrediting body just gave them double-secret-white-guy-wink probation, ncaa was just going to give this a pass as well...short of finding a gun in Deans dead hands from 20 years ago.
Yes MJ The roof IS the ceiling...for the education of black athletes at UNC, you should be proud
I think the real blame falls on the accrediting body for not levying a substantial punishment they deserved which would then force the NCAA hand to deem the classes a complete fraud that they where and reevaluate player eligibility to vacate games, 2 titles, and require restitution to former students affected which would also have brought on real investigators for the misappropriation of state and federal funds.
As soon as the accrediting body just gave them double-secret-white-guy-wink probation, ncaa was just going to give this a pass as well...short of finding a gun in Deans dead hands from 20 years ago.
Yes MJ The roof IS the ceiling...for the education of black athletes at UNC, you should be proud
Believe what you like but, UNCheat's fraudulent AFAM courses were never intended to serve anyone other than athletes. That was the intent all along. Sure the very existence of something called AFAM might have paid some lip service to minorities on the Cheater Hill campus but, you had better damn well believe there was no consideration given to anything beyond how this scam could help athletes.
The women's basketball staff were caught red-handed TELLING players to take these courses because they were an easy way to stay eligible. Does anyone with an ounce of common sense believe that the same thing wasn't told to men's basketball and football?
I'm telling you and anyone else that will listen, those classes, grade changes and the funneling of athletes would have taken place no matter what the program had been called. AFAM was chosen because of the esoteric nature of the "course material". And because it would offer some cover for anyone who dared criticize it.
Where you miss the obvious is that this is more about our multi cultural snowflake society on campus and less about ATHLETICS. If the racial mix of the football and basketball programs had somehow looked more like the 1960s...this would STILL be going on. That is what you dont understand. This would not be happening in science, engineering, business, math, english etc.... AFAM programs, the belief that they are even needed are the issue not athletics. Athletics are merit based. Educators who believe AFAM programs are necessary do not believe the communities that they serve can thrive under a merit based system. That is why this crap happens.
