They used to rip Ali on ABC Wide World of Sports' "First Take in The Morning: Sportstalk Show - with Jimmy the Greek and Flip Wilson" daily, IIRC.
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Maybe try and remember the 100+ years of professional sports that precede Lebron before throwing out absolutes, bub.
Good lesson for you and Adrian here.
Good lesson for you and Adrian here.
Dennis Rodman [laughing][roll]
Did chief hi-jack your account? Good grief.
Did chief hi-jack your account? Good grief.
Elvis disagrees.
The social media era has changed things dramatically, when you are talking about every single minute of a person's life being under a microscope for THE ENTIRE WORLD to see. Sorry this escapes you
The social media era has changed things dramatically, when you are talking about every single minute of a person's life being under a microscope for THE ENTIRE WORLD to see. Sorry this escapes you
Social media is just the vehicle today. Doesn't mean criticism wasn't just as prevalent back then.
Anhow, you get Lebron and I get the field of Ali, Robinson, Tiger, Bonds, Rodriguez, et al. I like my team.
Anhow, you get Lebron and I get the field of Ali, Robinson, Tiger, Bonds, Rodriguez, et al. I like my team.
Oil Can Boyd - dude was seemingly under the microscope on every episode of "This Week in Baseball."
I watched a crane put a hot tub up on top of a run down old crack house on Central Pkwy this week. Supposedly an attorney had bought it and was going to completely renovate it, including an elevator for his vehicles. Gentrification y'all.
Ramsey offering his resignation to new board. They could decline. King Bevin also said current BoT could seek reappointment. They may just be clearing them all out to just reappoint all Ramsey honks.
Ali is the most scrutinized athlete in history. Not really debatable.
Lebron is way up there though. As is Tiger.
Lebron is way up there though. As is Tiger.
When Jack Johnson won the heavyweight title there were riots in many major cities throughout the country by crowds unhappy with an AA boxing champ.
Later he was prosecuted under the Mann Act for marrying white women and went to prison.
But I do agree that he probably wasn't subject to as many crippling hot takes as LeBron.
Later he was prosecuted under the Mann Act for marrying white women and went to prison.
But I do agree that he probably wasn't subject to as many crippling hot takes as LeBron.
LeBron has brought much of his criticism on himself. I don't think he's treated all that unfairly by the media considering the time period. That said- much of that is a credit to him as he seems like a decent guy for the most part who generally handles himself well.
Pretty sure GYERO favorite J-Dub just came into the clubhouse and said to the bartender lady "I don't mean to sound fresh but can I get an extra dirty martini?"
Then wanted blue cheese stuffed olives.
Then wanted blue cheese stuffed olives.
He gets criticized. But he also gets paid an obscene amount of money.
And he's not going to jail.
All in all I'd say he has it pretty good imo
Did Brooks really say Dennis rodman, Barry bonds and arod?
Anth even thinks that's a bad take
Anth even thinks that's a bad take
:joy:
Yeah, as a black athlete growing up in the Deep South in the 50s he sure did have it easy.
Doing the math for the zeitgeist: "Hey that guy's black. We hate black people." Didn't require much scrutiny to reach a result.
It depends on what your definition of "is" is. ATKOT.
Everything now is more. Everything before was less.
You idiots should know this by now. [eyeroll]
You idiots should know this by now. [eyeroll]
Meh, most of you are missing the point Stroking was originally trying to make, per usual.
Lebron is unique b/c he was being watched before he could even drive a car, and it hasn't let up for a single day since then -- and it's been mostly sports related, unlike most of your other examples.
It's a different era today with the 24 hr news cycle, so impossible to compare. Per usual, I wasn't even thinking about athletes before I was born & didn't witness personally -- but that's what SAE & '73 are for.
Lebron is unique b/c he was being watched before he could even drive a car, and it hasn't let up for a single day since then -- and it's been mostly sports related, unlike most of your other examples.
It's a different era today with the 24 hr news cycle, so impossible to compare. Per usual, I wasn't even thinking about athletes before I was born & didn't witness personally -- but that's what SAE & '73 are for.
YOU are missing the point because you're an idiot, and you're wrong.
Honus Wagner disagrees.
Not wrong about anything. No athlete in our history has been more closely & consistently scrutinized from age 14-31 than LeBron James.
Not wrong about anything. No athlete in our history has been more closely & consistently scrutinized from age 14-31 than LeBron James.
We're refuting YOUR ******** claim that he's the most criticized athlete EVER. EVER seemed to imply anytime in history, dickwad.
Today? Sure.
EVER? No.
Actually, no. It wasn't my claim, and I didn't say 'criticized' either.
Sorry, Wayne -- but, no. Hockey lol.
It's a different era -- it simply wasn't possible to be as closely scrutinized on an hourly basis back then. The world is different today...wayyy different.
Simple stuff. You guys are doing a great '73 impression though.
Ursch, tell us all about Wayne Gretzky, and what you remember on a daily basis reading/hearing from him, and him being criticized/scrutinized, and never being able to go 5 minutes in life without seeing his name? Never heard you talk about it before.
Sorry, Wayne -- but, no. Hockey lol.
It's a different era -- it simply wasn't possible to be as closely scrutinized on an hourly basis back then. The world is different today...wayyy different.
Simple stuff. You guys are doing a great '73 impression though.
Ursch, tell us all about Wayne Gretzky, and what you remember on a daily basis reading/hearing from him, and him being criticized/scrutinized, and never being able to go 5 minutes in life without seeing his name? Never heard you talk about it before.
Secretariat was scrutinized like a mug, and he couldnt even respond to the hate. Just had to take it. He eventually let his running do the talking on the way to a Triple Crown in Professional Horse Racing.
Scrutinized, not criticized.
Ages 14-31
Social media era
No, not backing off your initial claim at all.
Good stuff, Adrian. Enjoy the Open.
Ages 14-31
Social media era
No, not backing off your initial claim at all.
Good stuff, Adrian. Enjoy the Open.
Ali's 2nd Half career was determined by the Supreme Court. Pretty high level of scrutiny there bub.
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