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MdWIldcat55

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needing a basketball fix, I'm re-watching the 2014 tourney game against Louisville.

Man, what a beast Randle was. Early in the game when Kentucky was shaky against the UL zone and trapping pressure, he kept the Cats from being down 20 instead of 13.

You realize how much the lack of a front court star made everything Murray and Ulis did in vain, at least in terms of getting far in the tournament.

I hope Bam can give the Cats some high percentage of what Julius delivered. By the way, Dakari was big in that game as well. Either need Bolden, or a leap forward by Humphries, which I certainly think is possible.
 
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BLEEDBLUE444

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Randle was huge in that game!!!

He was a great UK player

His championship performance (whatever was going on with him) is easily one of the strangest things ever! He shows up in that game and we have number 9 hanging in Rupp Right now
 
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cats#1again

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No way Jones was as good of low post player as Randle was. Jones had his shot blocked by guards more than any player I can remember. He literally shot from his hip
 
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Jones as a soph was better. He was so big.
I have never been so excited over a recriut like I was over Randle but it was a minor letdown cause he was always double teamed. Watch the coaches classic if you want to see Randle in beast mode
 
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Randle will be the better NBA player. He was also a better college player. He just happened to be a victim of his own success. Teams started triple teaming him because we lacked consistent shooters. Jones played with teams much more capable of spreading the floor.
 
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CatsPaws270

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Randle was a DOUBLE-DOUBLE MACHINE. He could eat in that paint.

IF you recall, Randle was double and triple teamed often because the backcourt/shooting from the rest of the team was ineffective. He was so darn dominant that team's basically tried to take him out and let anyone else beat you...

Him drawing those triple teams really opened it up for the twins/Young and even Dakari down the stretch in the tourney to get their offensive games going..

And even despite his double teams..he still put up great numbers..remember when Jones started getting double teamed and he mentally shut down as a freshman. Though he did become a key cog as a sophomore..he did have a shot swatting machine in the paint beside him to open some things up for him.
 
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Aike

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.S&C. said:
Randle is the most underrated player in the Calipari era, and one of the most underrated in our history.

I've never seen a player fouled as much as he was, and it go allowed. The guy owned double and triple teams.
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Probably fair. Trey Lyles might be second. Archie Goodwin may be third.
 
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Rupp'sRunt

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Aike said:
Probably fair. Trey Lyles might be second. Archie Goodwin may be third.
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Archie Goodwin underrated? He's probably the worst shooting guard Calipari has ever recruited. Talk about someone saying randle was a spaz. Goodwin was the definition of a spaz, that kid could've been on the platoon team and found a way to shoot 15 times a game.
 
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BLEEDBLUE444

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Aike said:
Think he was hurt.
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Yeah I mean that was the assumption, but it just kinda never came to light, I guess those rumors of him being hurt surfaced, but he just seemed so far gone mentally as well... I guess injures can do that to a player though... Still so so sad
 
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.S&C. said:
Randle is the most underrated player in the Calipari era, and one of the most underrated in our history.

I've never seen a player fouled as much as he was, and it go allowed. The guy owned double and triple teams.
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He was a victim of the "if we foul him every time, they can't always call it" theory.
 
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Aike

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Rupp'sRunt said:
Archie Goodwin underrated? He's probably the worst shooting guard Calipari has ever recruited. Talk about someone saying randle was a spaz. Goodwin was the definition of a spaz, that kid could've been on the platoon team and found a way to shoot 15 times a game.
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You made my point well. Archie Goodwin is routinely blasted and hated, but he was a first round pick who is still getting run in the league.

Being much better than given credit for is the definition of underrated.
 
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Anon1658882690

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Rupp'sRunt said:
Archie Goodwin underrated? He's probably the worst shooting guard Calipari has ever recruited. Talk about someone saying randle was a spaz. Goodwin was the definition of a spaz, that kid could've been on the platoon team and found a way to shoot 15 times a game.
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Exactly who else on that team (guard wise) could help Archie take the pressure off him from trying to carry the team by shooting so much? Basically nobody.. That's why he tried to carry UK.. I liked him as he was the only player besides Noel that brought it every game..
 
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arenk

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Supafuzz75 said:
Exactly who else on that team (guard wise) could help Archie take the pressure off him from trying to carry the team by shooting so much? Basically nobody.. That's why he tried to carry UK.. I liked him as he was the only player besides Noel that brought it every game..
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Randle played with a pulled hamstring against Uconn in the final. I have had that injury and it reduces your effectiveness to darn near zero. And yes, it did cost us a NC.
 
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Randle was a beast at Kentucky. Watching him play and watching how the other team was always throwing 2 or 3 guys at Randle everytime he touched the ball was crazy. If that kid could have just played his man one on one, he would have put up some insane stats! Don't get me wrong. Randle did have a few parts of his game that drove us all crazy. Who didn't hate when the kid would get the ball and do a spin move and turn the ball over or get the ball in the paint and have an open shooter motioning for the ball but instead of passing to the open teammate shooting a contested off balance shot at the rim with 2 guys on him? Let's be real. If Randle was great at passing the ball, his talent on the court at Kentucky wouldn't even have been fair. As a fan of Kentucky, Randle was a joy to watch and sometimes frustrating, but at least when that kid took the court, you knew automatically he was going to bring it 100% on every play! I don't know what happened in the championship game.
 
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Anon1658882690

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arenk said:
Randle played with a pulled hamstring against Uconn in the final. I have had that injury and it reduces your effectiveness to darn near zero. And yes, it did cost us a NC.
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I'm talking about the year before Randle,, nit year.. But on the year you're talking about,, you are correct..
 
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MdWIldcat55 said:
Back to the game, Randle was huge, Dakari was out of his mind with 15 points, and Poythress had some key minutes and baskets. You have to have front court scoring.
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Dakari was phenomenal in that game! Played a whale of a game after Willie went out. I love that game because it destroyed the average UL fan psyche. They will never get over that game!
 
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BigBlueManSouthCentralKY

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Having 2 high intense effort guys on the front line in Bam and Gabriel will be fun to watch teamed with the high skilled Jones. This may be the right combination to win it because getting high effort guys is hard anyway because of so few of them but two on the same team will be great. Pair these 3 with Fox and Monk I don't see how you could put together a much better starting five. Plenty of D, skill, size and toughness.
 
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Dakari somehow seemed more fluid ( relative ) as a fat frosh than his trimmed down Soph. yr. So weird.

He stepped it up in the tourney when Willie went down.

As for Bam-Randle. I can see some similarities. Bully-ball PF w/ some handles.

Randle seems quicker in tighter spaces w/ a tighter handle.

Bam is longer + more explosive off the floor. Also may be more skilled w/ the jumpers he's flashed in the all-star circuit.

Bam may be our best recruit.
 
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brianpoe

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BigBlueManSouthCentralKY said:
Having 2 high intense effort guys on the front line in Bam and Gabriel will be fun to watch teamed with the high skilled Jones. This may be the right combination to win it because getting high effort guys is hard anyway because of so few of them but two on the same team will be great. Pair these 3 with Fox and Monk I don't see how you could put together a much better starting five. Plenty of D, skill, size and toughness.
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Only one shooter in that group.

WG and SKG are very interesting but we still need to see a lot more. As of now your best 5 has two face up 4's.
 
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mjj_2K

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5iveStarRecruit said:
Dakari somehow seemed more fluid ( relative ) as a fat frosh than his trimmed down Soph. yr. So weird.

He stepped it up in the tourney when Willie went down.

As for Bam-Randle. I can see some similarities. Bully-ball PF w/ some handles.

Randle seems quicker in tighter spaces w/ a tighter handle.

Bam is longer + more explosive off the floor. Also may be more skilled w/ the jumpers he's flashed in the all-star circuit.

Bam may be our best recruit.
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Matches what I see. Randle grew up handling the ball, often pretty far from the basket. It showed, even if his dribbling ability sometimes led him onto tight, bad spaces. Bam has a decent handle, but it's not as natural. On the flip side, I doubt you're going to see Bam get his shot blocked the way that Randle did. Randle has pretty short arms, Bam doesn't, and though Randle was a decent leaper, that edge clearly goes to Bam.

Overall, I think Bam is going to be far more reliant on other people setting him up for scoring opportunities. And though you won't be as able to just dump the ball into him and say "get me some points" as you were with Randle, it's not an entirely bad thing.
 
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brianpoe

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mj2k10 said:
Matches what I see. Randle grew up handling the ball, often pretty far from the basket. It showed, even if his dribbling ability sometimes led him onto tight, bad spaces. Bam has a decent handle, but it's not as natural. On the flip side, I doubt you're going to see Bam get his shot blocked the way that Randle did. Randle has pretty short arms, Bam doesn't, and though Randle was a decent leaper, that edge clearly goes to Bam.

Overall, I think Bam is going to be far more reliant on other people setting him up for scoring opportunities. And though you won't be as able to just dump the ball into him and say "get me some points" as you were with Randle, it's not an entirely bad thing.
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Randal suffered a lower leg/ankle injury in the semi and was never the same player for us after that injury. Great player and young man.
 
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From Crawfords corner

Cousins averaged 26.9 points and 11.5 rebounds with a PER of 23.69
Davis averaged 24.3 points and 10.3 rebounds with a PER of 25.15
KAT averaged 18.2 points and 10.4 rebounds with a PER of 22.45
John Wall averaged 19.9 points and 10.2 assists with a PER of 19.86
Randle averaged 11.5 points and 10.3 rebounds with a PER of 14.07
Rondo averaged 11.9 points and 11.7 assists with a PER of 16.93

And that's with Trex arms. Randle was and still is a baller
 
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Jones played calipari level defense, Randle barely knew what defense was...

Jones played calipari offense, Randle was a blackhole, ball movement killer. Once he learned, when he spun into a triple team it was ok to pass, UK got better. But it took until the SEC tournament for him to realize it. Everyone said "he is getting tripled team and hacked all the time", but he failed to recognize those situations and forced it so much...

That being said, if Bam is better than either Jones or Randle that will be something, but that is not going to be an easy task, both Jones and Randle were animals their Freshmen year. Heck Jones maybe had the best first month stat wise of any Calipari Freshmen. He was looking like the #1 pick!!!
 
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