But Cal needs to change his recruiting strategy to keep more experience!!!
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Senior Laden UVA chokes to 10 seed Syracuse
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Seniors like Darius Miller (the SENIOR on the 2012 championship team) are priceless. Cal's doing great and I don't take issue with his coaching philosophy at all. But having seniors that contribute are valuable assets. Giving crap to seniors is wrong...... giving crap to Cal is wrong too. It takes a perfect mix of players and a lot of luck to win the NC and giving hell to senior players just because they're seniors is weak IMO.
You have to have a good mix of both. Great talented freshman and glue older guys.
Give me Davis , MKG and Teague level talent over any senior you can find . Talent wins titles , look at Duke last year also led by talent . In our 2012 title it was the freshman and sophomores who won it for us , they performed the best out of any seniors on the floor that night .
The problem with the 3 and 4 year guys is you simply don't know what you get at the end. Are they going to Improve dramatically and help win big or will they be the typical upperclassman? It's rare that a high 5 star doesn't work out
In year one or two with Cal.
So why gamble on guys you think just MIGHT make a significant contribution when you know you can land guys who WILL make a significant contribution in the first year. I believe Cal tries to sprinkle in some Multi year guys. Some pan out and some don't.
Matthews will be one of those guys who does pan out in year two or three. He will end his college career as a stud.
In year one or two with Cal.
So why gamble on guys you think just MIGHT make a significant contribution when you know you can land guys who WILL make a significant contribution in the first year. I believe Cal tries to sprinkle in some Multi year guys. Some pan out and some don't.
Matthews will be one of those guys who does pan out in year two or three. He will end his college career as a stud.
Miller was a key component but to say we wouldn't have won without him is a stretch.
False , Davis dominated that game and MKG was the one who sparked the second half run . If not for Davis we don't win that game . Davis had 18 pts 14 reb and 5 blocks but Miller won that game ? Lol whatever
Can't believe UVA lost. Left the house to take our daughter back to college and they were up 9 with about 7mins left. We stopped at a store for her to get some things and find out they lost. What happened?
Miller was 2nd in scoring in half of their tournament games. Had 19 against IU and they needed all 19 of them. Without Miller, they don't win that title. Not saying he was MVP, but he was definitely needed.
Last 7 minutes they looked like we did in the 2 shot clock violations last year. It was literally 8 minutes of the worst offense I've ever seen.
I love Miller but to say without him they wouldn't have won is a stretch. If not Miller, someone else would have been there to step up in his role all season, including the tournament. Davis was THE key to that season and championship.
Miller played a role but wording it like he was the most responsible for winning the title is an absolute joke . He was a senior but looked scared and lost in the title game , he recoiled from the moment just like he did in the 2011 f4 . Davis was the biggest reason we won the title and without him it does not happen , I could pick a player to replace Miller and we still win it . If there was a single player you could replace it was Miller , he was the least important member of the primary players . He helped but his role is wildly overblown because he's from KY
UVA was never going to and at there current offenisve pace, will never win a NC. Past 30 years NC winner has averaged 75pts per game at least. UVA was 71.
How many coaches win with mostly freshman and sophomores, not many, you wouldn't last long as a coach with all the growing pains you would experience.
I didn't say Hood could replace Miller , where did you get that . Miller was replaceable , people were saying he was the key to the season before the season started . That tells you that people wanted Miller to be the key but he wasn't . YOU SAID WE WOULDNT HAVE MADE IT PAST UL WITHOUT MILLER , WHILE DAVIS DESERVES THE MOST CREDIT FOR THAT . YOU ARE TRYING TO OVERVALUE MILLER , I PUT IT IN CAPS SO YOU WOULDNT IGNORE IT SHOULD YOU RESPOND .
What I'm getting at is it wasn't Miller's senior experience that won us the title. Bradley Beal could have taken Miller's place and the end result would have almost certainly been the same.
I do think Cal tries to sprinkle in multi year players. Guys like Bledsoe and Booker just made so much progress they left
This year due to some of the recruiting misses Cal grabbed Mulder and Humphries. I don't see Matthews staying due to playing time but Humphries may see the floor some
This year due to some of the recruiting misses Cal grabbed Mulder and Humphries. I don't see Matthews staying due to playing time but Humphries may see the floor some
You need talent but experience helps. In 2012, Lamb had a year of college ball under his belt and led the team with 16 ppg in the NCAA tournament. Miller might not have been all world but he had a lot of NCAA games under his belt and that experience was an invaluable part of the recipe helping UK to win it all.
Miller's most important role, IMO, was the same that Willis and Hawkins will have next year: what they provide in mentorship and being a "big brother." They will be important part of the team on the court, but off the court is where they are needed most.
I'm going to guess that you are assuming that's what happened , why do you think that was the case ?
Edit : you said imo so that pretty much answers my question .
Terrible thread. Do you write for a major newspaper? Being 'Senior laden' had nothing to do with the fact that they lost! Syracuse has a load of upperclassmen but your spin didn't mention that.
As long as the system is as it is, we should expect to be very young, very talented and capable of winning it all every few years. A mix of experienced players will always help.
it's almost always just my opinion
I simply felt that's what makes the most sense
Don't get me wrong - love these guys - and think they are valuable to the team, but their roles are different than the "stars"
Until tonight, UVA 's record when leading by 10 pts. or more at the half was 68-0
No, I don't write for a newspaper (irrelevant). If you can't see the point of the thread then that's on you and your lack of intelligence, not mine.
Geez, didn't think I would have to spell it out for some of you, but it appears I thought too much of the board. The point isn't that seniors can't win. It's simply pointing out that even really good senior laden teams choke in the biggest moments. So anyone questioning Cal's methods especially after the ridiculous success we've had the past 5 years is a buffoon.