Tim Bourret setting another reporter straight
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The Sports by Brooks guy seems like a real winner. Under this tweet he tweeted a story trying to back up his take and it actually reinforced what Tim said. Some people only need a little rope to take care of themselves.
Lmao at some rabble rouser trying to argue facts with Tim Bouret .
At least this person admitted that they were wrong. Rarely see that happen and lol at anyone who tries to argue Clemson facts with Tim Bourret
"News Reporters" just say whatever they want, they know there is very little consequence to peddling lies.
Now maybe Coach Howard was a racist, wouldn't be surprised, but i have no idea. I know many people were during that period of time, none the less, get the facts right.
Now maybe Coach Howard was a racist, wouldn't be surprised, but i have no idea. I know many people were during that period of time, none the less, get the facts right.
In todays media you don't even have to be right. You just say it. And we the people allow it.
the person he responded too is not the original poster, and why would you leave up a lie?
My God
These new lefty journalists just makes shyatt up as they go and not held accountable. These folks are trying so hard to reform racism
These new lefty journalists just makes shyatt up as they go and not held accountable. These folks are trying so hard to reform racism
Can we admit (and take a moment to appreciate) the fact that the 'process' pretty much worked in this case? Somebody published something that was erroneous, he was corrected by an expert on the subject, he admitted his mistake while (apparently) leaving the whole exchange up as a lesson about jumping to conclusions and so as to minimize further he said/she said by others that might occur if the original exchange were removed. This is about as good a result as can be expected, I thin,.
Sports by Brooks used to be a must follow and then he took a long break from sports and since he has come back he operates his twitter like an arsonist.
No idea what happened to him but I unfollowed within two weeks of following him when he came back to twitter.
No idea what happened to him but I unfollowed within two weeks of following him when he came back to twitter.
excerpts were from a WaPo article and references Univ. of South Carolina and his experiences there as well.
He had the tweet pinned, but has since taken it down . I hope Mr. Tim is around for many more years .
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The same could be said for the president.
No. Ready, fire, aim isn't the way to publish information.
You should fact-check before posting, especially inflammatory information. Simple.
I listen to every speech this guy makes and I’ve never heard him say a racist word about anyone.
"A lie goes around the world before the truth gets its shoes tied." This is why the cultural marxists push only narrative narrative narrative and clan clan clan. They think it "works" so they ride it. Ghoulish. It corrupts all it touches.
We need sincere striving for truth truth truth. Journalism used to at least aspire to that.
Blind arson is the right term for modern "journalism". Glad to see at least one person own their error, and move forward. Gotta respect that.
We need sincere striving for truth truth truth. Journalism used to at least aspire to that.
Blind arson is the right term for modern "journalism". Glad to see at least one person own their error, and move forward. Gotta respect that.
Reporters should model themselves after the TI crew. I know the dynamics are different for a “national” reporter/one who has no base and a beat reporter like LW or Paul, but it seems as though a lot of these national reporters have no repercussions for putting out erroneous stories or not getting all the facts straight before publishing.
If TI put out a wrong story or something misleading without all the facts, I’d think they’d lose a lot of sources and therefore lose the ability to make money.
I’d love to hear @Larry_Williams or @Cris_Ard take on the different dynamics of a national reporter and a beat writer. Just seems that TI and entities like them have much more repercussions for bad journalism than national people.
I totally believe Tim B. Dr. Edwards steered Clemson through a difficult time and never received the credit he deserved. Dr. Edwards truly loved Clemson.
He was a wonderful man!
Best president Clemson ever had. Everyone else can compete fo r second place.
This is the story he was citing, FYI.
On November 16, 1963, 20-year-old Darryl Hill entered "Death Valley," the football stadium at Clemson University, and was greeted by the screams of 30,000 die-hard fans celebrating homecoming. Instead of building the stadium aboveground, the university had, in effect, dug a ditch and dropped the stadium into it, so fans entered at the top and peered down. Looking around the stadium, Hill couldn't see a single black person -- not sitting in the stands, not selling hot dogs, not pushing a broom.
In addition to playing halfback and receiver for the University of Maryland, Hill, the first black football player in the Atlantic Coast Conference, kicked extra points and returned punts, so during warm-ups he took the field before the rest of the team. When he did so on that day, Clemson's coach left his side of the field and walked to within a few feet of him. He stood right next to Hill, smoking his cigar and glaring at him for nearly 10 minutes before he walked back to the sideline. Later, as Hill practiced catching punts, the crowd booed if he caught one and cheered if he dropped the ball. Just as the game was about to start, a Maryland assistant coach ran onto the field and said, "Darryl, there's a problem. It's about your mother."
Hill froze. When he'd given his mother tickets for the Clemson game, he had told her that if his father couldn't leave his business that day, then under no circumstances was she to travel from Washington to South Carolina by herself. But that was what Palestine Hill had done.
Hill, still in uniform, found her at the gate, ticket in hand. "They won't let me in," she told him. Hill argued on her behalf, but the ticket taker was not about to relent, and the uniformed state troopers standing nearby saw no reason to intervene. Frustrated and angry, Hill started to return to the locker room to change so that he could escort his mother out of there. Just then a well-dressed white man showed up. Introducing himself as the president of Clemson University, Robert C. Edwards invited Mrs. Hill to watch the game with him and his family in the president's box. When Hill saw that his mother was in good hands, he went back out onto the field. His teammates soon heard about the incident. Jerry Fishman, his best friend on the team and frequent roommate on the road, asked Hill what he was going to do about it. Hill replied, "I'm going to light these people up!"
Hill caught 10 passes that day, setting a Maryland record, despite being double- and sometimes triple-teamed. When the game was over, Maryland Coach Tom Nugent was so sure there was going to be trouble -- even though Clemson had won, 21-6 -- that he ordered his players to get on the team bus in their uniforms. Their street clothes arrived separately the next day.
Maryland's second game was against South Carolina, in Columbia. Despite year-long threats to the contrary, the Gamecocks did take the field. Nonetheless, Maryland was apprehensive -- the coaches as well as the players. "The booing had started before we even came out on the field, surrounded by the National Guard," Nugent says. "There was so much anger and hatred in the air, it was truly frightening."
Adding to the tension was the fact that several days before the game, in addition to numerous ugly letters, Nugent had received a phone call telling him that at some undisclosed point in the game he would be shot and killed by a sniper. But the intimidating atmosphere seemed to have little effect once Maryland took the field. Hill scored on a 19-yard run in the first quarter, and with just seconds left in the half the Terrapins scored again to put Maryland up, 13-0.
South Carolina fans were incensed, and when the gun sounded for the half, hundreds of them spilled onto the field. The police made the Maryland players wait before they could go into their dressing room. Once the police had escorted the team inside, the crowd grew larger and more unruly. "There were people waiting out there with rocks and tomatoes and everything else," Nugent says. "It looked like there was going to be a terrible riot. It took 48 minutes to restore order." In the second half, South Carolina came back to beat Maryland, 21-13.
At the end of the game, says Fishman, "Darryl was attacked by fans as we left the field. We took off our helmets and held them by the face mask and swung wildly at a couple of hundred fans who were blocking our way to the locker room. We'd actually gotten used to their shouts of 'Kill Hill, kill Hill,' but when it got physical we had no choice but to fight back."
On November 16, 1963, 20-year-old Darryl Hill entered "Death Valley," the football stadium at Clemson University, and was greeted by the screams of 30,000 die-hard fans celebrating homecoming. Instead of building the stadium aboveground, the university had, in effect, dug a ditch and dropped the stadium into it, so fans entered at the top and peered down. Looking around the stadium, Hill couldn't see a single black person -- not sitting in the stands, not selling hot dogs, not pushing a broom.
In addition to playing halfback and receiver for the University of Maryland, Hill, the first black football player in the Atlantic Coast Conference, kicked extra points and returned punts, so during warm-ups he took the field before the rest of the team. When he did so on that day, Clemson's coach left his side of the field and walked to within a few feet of him. He stood right next to Hill, smoking his cigar and glaring at him for nearly 10 minutes before he walked back to the sideline. Later, as Hill practiced catching punts, the crowd booed if he caught one and cheered if he dropped the ball. Just as the game was about to start, a Maryland assistant coach ran onto the field and said, "Darryl, there's a problem. It's about your mother."
Hill froze. When he'd given his mother tickets for the Clemson game, he had told her that if his father couldn't leave his business that day, then under no circumstances was she to travel from Washington to South Carolina by herself. But that was what Palestine Hill had done.
Hill, still in uniform, found her at the gate, ticket in hand. "They won't let me in," she told him. Hill argued on her behalf, but the ticket taker was not about to relent, and the uniformed state troopers standing nearby saw no reason to intervene. Frustrated and angry, Hill started to return to the locker room to change so that he could escort his mother out of there. Just then a well-dressed white man showed up. Introducing himself as the president of Clemson University, Robert C. Edwards invited Mrs. Hill to watch the game with him and his family in the president's box. When Hill saw that his mother was in good hands, he went back out onto the field. His teammates soon heard about the incident. Jerry Fishman, his best friend on the team and frequent roommate on the road, asked Hill what he was going to do about it. Hill replied, "I'm going to light these people up!"
Hill caught 10 passes that day, setting a Maryland record, despite being double- and sometimes triple-teamed. When the game was over, Maryland Coach Tom Nugent was so sure there was going to be trouble -- even though Clemson had won, 21-6 -- that he ordered his players to get on the team bus in their uniforms. Their street clothes arrived separately the next day.
Maryland's second game was against South Carolina, in Columbia. Despite year-long threats to the contrary, the Gamecocks did take the field. Nonetheless, Maryland was apprehensive -- the coaches as well as the players. "The booing had started before we even came out on the field, surrounded by the National Guard," Nugent says. "There was so much anger and hatred in the air, it was truly frightening."
Adding to the tension was the fact that several days before the game, in addition to numerous ugly letters, Nugent had received a phone call telling him that at some undisclosed point in the game he would be shot and killed by a sniper. But the intimidating atmosphere seemed to have little effect once Maryland took the field. Hill scored on a 19-yard run in the first quarter, and with just seconds left in the half the Terrapins scored again to put Maryland up, 13-0.
South Carolina fans were incensed, and when the gun sounded for the half, hundreds of them spilled onto the field. The police made the Maryland players wait before they could go into their dressing room. Once the police had escorted the team inside, the crowd grew larger and more unruly. "There were people waiting out there with rocks and tomatoes and everything else," Nugent says. "It looked like there was going to be a terrible riot. It took 48 minutes to restore order." In the second half, South Carolina came back to beat Maryland, 21-13.
At the end of the game, says Fishman, "Darryl was attacked by fans as we left the field. We took off our helmets and held them by the face mask and swung wildly at a couple of hundred fans who were blocking our way to the locker room. We'd actually gotten used to their shouts of 'Kill Hill, kill Hill,' but when it got physical we had no choice but to fight back."
That story and the guy chooses to use the Clemson angle. Guess cause Clemson in the title will get more clicks.
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Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not sure exactly how Tim set the guy straight.
Seems like an issue of semantics: She was blocked at the gate. President Edwards did come escort her to his box.
Sometimes they are held accountable. That Sandman kid from Kentucky (teenager in the MAGA hat who provoked the tribal elder, but really it was the other way around) will be a billionaire by the time all of his lawsuits against the media are settled.
Dang, wish I could ask my dad about this. That’s total BS from everything my dad told me about Coach Howard. He had told me about Coach Howard talking to the team when Harvey Gantt came to Clemson. I’ll see if I can find my dad’s write up about it and post it later today.
Good lord they just take what they want out of it to push a narrative. I hate people.
Sounds like he should be dogging UofSC more so than Clemson.
I can't vouch for why he chose the Clemson angle (maybe because that's what led the article).
But what a brutal, embarrassing time in our state's history. I can't wrap my mind around ugly stuff like that happening at college football games a mere 12 years before I was born.
Seems as though whoever that “reporter” was (not the girl who said wow but the guy who actually sent the tweet) was using points of the story to paint Clemson, Howard and Edwards in the worst light possible. Seems Tim was maybe giving more context. Which I guess is semantics.
Kudos to her for not deleting and owning it. I think that's how you social media.
History is very important but it is history. Good, bad, ugly. It is history that we have learned from and moved on. That type of thing would NEVER happen at Clemson today.
Trying to use history to smear someone or an organization is ridiculous. If you want to judge a person's or organization's character, base it on what they stand for now in the present. It's OK to reference the past. In fact, it is a good thing to keep our history alive. But you should leave it there in the past and not lose sight of how good things are in the present. It's easy to be blinded, angered, or embarrassed by the past. But guess what? It happened and you can't erase it from the books. We have relics and other vices that remind us of it, as we should so we don't forget, but you must view it educationally and look at the positives all around us today.
If you look at history compared to now, it should bring some sort of joy and peace in your heart to see how far we have come. Not anger and division.
Trying to use history to smear someone or an organization is ridiculous. If you want to judge a person's or organization's character, base it on what they stand for now in the present. It's OK to reference the past. In fact, it is a good thing to keep our history alive. But you should leave it there in the past and not lose sight of how good things are in the present. It's easy to be blinded, angered, or embarrassed by the past. But guess what? It happened and you can't erase it from the books. We have relics and other vices that remind us of it, as we should so we don't forget, but you must view it educationally and look at the positives all around us today.
If you look at history compared to now, it should bring some sort of joy and peace in your heart to see how far we have come. Not anger and division.
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And the outlook for America is still better with him running the show than a bunch of socialist, extreme left,, race hustling, Democrats.