Football is slowly killing players

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My Mom wouldn't let me play football...she was smart. :)
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Yeah, I played football at West High when the battle cry from the coaches was " put your GD'd helmet on his numbers." Meaning of course lead with crown of your helmet, now illegal and ejection if flagrant. Our hydration break was a 3 second pull at the end of the garden hose after some other guy just had his lips around it. After a neck " stinger " I never led with my helmet again, maybe why I got moved from nose guard to the offensive line. Hopefully my total knee replacements, after 3 other knee surgeries, marks the end of my football glory days...
 

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Yeah, I played football at West High when the battle cry from the coaches was " put your GD'd helmet on his numbers." Meaning of course lead with crown of your helmet, now illegal and ejection if flagrant. Our hydration break was a 3 second pull at the end of the garden hose after some other guy just had his lips around it. After a neck " stinger " I never led with my helmet again, maybe why I got moved from nose guard to the offensive line. Hopefully my total knee replacements, after 3 other knee surgeries, marks the end of my football glory days...
Other than that though...
 

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Yeah, I played football at West High when the battle cry from the coaches was " put your GD'd helmet on his numbers." Meaning of course lead with crown of your helmet, now illegal and ejection if flagrant. Our hydration break was a 3 second pull at the end of the garden hose after some other guy just had his lips around it. After a neck " stinger " I never led with my helmet again, maybe why I got moved from nose guard to the offensive line. Hopefully my total knee replacements, after 3 other knee surgeries, marks the end of my football glory days...
Queue Edith from Archie Bunker singing "those were the days ".
 
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.... I don't have kids but I would not let them play football.


It has been painfully obvious for years there is a risk. When we started having kids, I wanted boys, and was really unsure how I'd handle the discussion. Only girls.

I admit, every now and then a little guilt creeps in when i watch college ball, someone else's family is taking that risk for my entertainment. But I guess now that they are getting paid, there is some form compensation for the risk.

Hopefully, yall or someone is moving towards a full summary of the data but this is pretty scary "On average, the brain donors had played about 12 years of football and died at age 60. About 28%, or 180 of them, didn’t have evidence of CTE in their brains. Another 163 had low-stage CTE, and 288 had high-stage CTE. As seen in previous studies, the number of reported concussions wasn’t associated with CTE incidence or severity."
 

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I gotta say that I was pleasantly pleased when my 16 year old told me over the summer that he wasn’t going to play football this year. We have, admittedly, missed some of the commitment, discipline and camaraderie of the program. Those have been great for my son over the last 2 years. But the injuries. Brutal.

My kid got 2 pretty significant injuries last season with the worst being a severe concussion that kept him out for 3 weeks. I enjoyed those 3 weeks. But it wasn’t so much his injuries as it was just watching the games in general. I enjoyed the games but hated the injuries. At least 1 major injury per game it seemed. And when they happened, I would panic until I found my son standing there. Relieved that he was ok while someone else’s son was wreathing in pain wasn’t very fun.

The worst injuries we saw were a broken neck and a leg so jacked up I’m still not sure what happened but the kid probably needed some rods to straighten it out. Disgusting. Listening to the kid scream bloody murder for an eternity while we waited for the ambulance on that one was tough. Also saw plenty of broken bones and really bad concussions. No thanks.
 

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It has been painfully obvious for years there is a risk. When we started having kids, I wanted boys, and was really unsure how I'd handle the discussion. Only girls.

I admit, every now and then a little guilt creeps in when i watch college ball, someone else's family is taking that risk for my entertainment. But I guess now that they are getting paid, there is some form compensation for the risk.

Hopefully, yall or someone is moving towards a full summary of the data but this is pretty scary "On average, the brain donors had played about 12 years of football and died at age 60. About 28%, or 180 of them, didn’t have evidence of CTE in their brains. Another 163 had low-stage CTE, and 288 had high-stage CTE. As seen in previous studies, the number of reported concussions wasn’t associated with CTE incidence or severity."
Tough to read. Our daughter was pretty active with headers on the pitch and we always cautioned her about what was known as “proper technique” at the time. She never was concussed there, but did suffer one caused by a fall off of the monkey bars. It kinda haunts me to this day.
I also wonder if there may be some kind of future link to brain injury and the dementia that runs in my family…
 
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I gotta say that I was pleasantly pleased when my 16 year old told me over the summer that he wasn’t going to play football this year. We have, admittedly, missed some of the commitment, discipline and camaraderie of the program. Those have been great for my son over the last 2 years. But the injuries. Brutal.

My kid got 2 pretty significant injuries last season with the worst being a severe concussion that kept him out for 3 weeks. I enjoyed those 3 weeks. But it wasn’t so much his injuries as it was just watching the games in general. I enjoyed the games but hated the injuries. At least 1 major injury per game it seemed. And when they happened, I would panic until I found my son standing there. Relieved that he was ok while someone else’s son was wreathing in pain wasn’t very fun.

The worst injuries we saw were a broken neck and a leg so jacked up I’m still not sure what happened but the kid probably needed some rods to straighten it out. Disgusting. Listening to the kid scream bloody murder for an eternity while we waited for the ambulance on that one was tough. Also saw plenty of broken bones and really bad concussions. No thanks.

My youngest son finally gave up football this year (his upcoming junior year) ... to focus on baseball. I didn't want him to do it to focus on baseball (kid's brilliant ... isn't going to be making his money playing a sport), but I'm glad he did it, regardless. We didn't see the severe injuries you saw, but we saw consistent injuries ... every week a couple kids would drop. Knees and heads were the primary injuries, but they ran the gamut. And we have a top program in the area - our JV squad won every game, most were over by half, and our Varsity program is always top notch, so it's not like we were throwing terrible, unfit kids out there who didn't know what they were doing, and they'd just get hurt. And there's no real way to protect yourself from any of this ... other than not participate. Most are freak occurrences.

My son was decent ... didn't have the size/speed combo to be a standout ... he also didn't have that "I don't give an eff about my personal well-being" attitude you need to be really successful at football. There's a kid who is the son of a "hometown hero" - guy who was apparently a big man on campus football player in high school, but never did anything with it beyond high school, but now he's heavily involved in the program, as a parent. Anyway, you can tell the kid is being pushed to be a "tough guy." Kid takes a huge hit, is wobbly, and the dad tells him he's fine and get back out there. Kid's grabbing his shoulder and is told to get back out there. That was in youth football, when he helped coach. There was one time the boys were at a camp for baseball ... the kid somehow fell off a bunk in his sleep and hurt himself. He told his dad, who told him he was fine. He played a couple games over the next couple days and was still in pain, so at the end of camp, they decided to stop by an urgent care. Turns out the kid had a couple broken ribs. But the running "joke" is that it's not a football game unless this kid stumbles around after at least a couple plays. He's a demon out there - aggressive. He's been trained.

There's a kid on the squad who is the son of a local college legend. The dad's situation is unique, in that he overcame a ton of adversity, and actually chose not to focus on pro football (I believe an injury played a huge part), instead moving toward another career option (getting a graduate degree), even though football is what helped him get out of his troubles. So, you'd think the dad would be pretty focused on the kids' academic, not athletic, options, as they're pretty well set, and the kid isn't having to struggle to make it in life. Anyway, now that the kid is playing, the dad just keeps talking about how important football is to growing up right. How it teaches you so many life lessons. Meanwhile, his kid keeps getting head injuries. Year after year. It got to the point where I'm not sure he played in the regular season last year, because he suffered a bad head injury, and the rumor was, he finally was told by medical professionals he couldn't play football any longer. I believe he's back on the team this year. He isn't some monster can't miss kid ... he's got some talent, but he was still going to be JV last year, and probably won't be a starter this year, if healthy. Yet he's out there.
 
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My youngest son finally gave up football this year (his upcoming junior year) ... to focus on baseball. I didn't want him to do it to focus on baseball (kid's brilliant ... isn't going to be making his money playing a sport), but I'm glad he did it, regardless. We didn't see the severe injuries you saw, but we saw consistent injuries ... every week a couple kids would drop. Knees and heads were the primary injuries, but they ran the gamut. And we have a top program in the area - our JV squad won every game, most were over by half, and our Varsity program is always top notch, so it's not like we were throwing terrible, unfit kids out there who didn't know what they were doing, and they'd just get hurt. And there's no real way to protect yourself from any of this ... other than not participate. Most are freak occurrences.

My son was decent ... didn't have the size/speed combo to be a standout ... he also didn't have that "I don't give an eff about my personal well-being" attitude you need to be really successful at football. There's a kid who is the son of a "hometown hero" - guy who was apparently a big man on campus football player in high school, but never did anything with it beyond high school, but now he's heavily involved in the program, as a parent. Anyway, you can tell the kid is being pushed to be a "tough guy." Kid takes a huge hit, is wobbly, and the dad tells him he's fine and get back out there. Kid's grabbing his shoulder and is told to get back out there. That was in youth football, when he helped coach. There was one time the boys were at a camp for baseball ... the kid somehow fell off a bunk in his sleep and hurt himself. He told his dad, who told him he was fine. He played a couple games over the next couple days and was still in pain, so at the end of camp, they decided to stop by an urgent care. Turns out the kid had a couple broken ribs. But the running "joke" is that it's not a football game unless this kid stumbles around after at least a couple plays. He's a demon out there - aggressive. He's been trained.

There's a kid on the squad who is the son of a local college legend. The dad's situation is unique, in that he overcame a ton of adversity, and actually chose not to focus on pro football (I believe an injury played a huge part), instead moving toward another career option (getting a graduate degree), even though football is what helped him get out of his troubles. So, you'd think the dad would be pretty focused on the kids' academic, not athletic, options, as they're pretty well set, and the kid isn't having to struggle to make it in life. Anyway, now that the kid is playing, the dad just keeps talking about how important football is to growing up right. How it teaches you so many life lessons. Meanwhile, his kid keeps getting head injuries. Year after year. It got to the point where I'm not sure he played in the regular season last year, because he suffered a bad head injury, and the rumor was, he finally was told by medical professionals he couldn't play football any longer. I believe he's back on the team this year. He isn't some monster can't miss kid ... he's got some talent, but he was still going to be JV last year, and probably won't be a starter this year, if healthy. Yet he's out there.

Lol. This is almost verbatim to my kids situation other than he wants to focus on lacrosse. (which is an awesome sport btw) The fathers in our programs are probably more legends in their own minds than actual legends as well, haha.

The injuries just got to be too much for me. I’ve seen my share of injuries in soccer and lacrosse but they are small in comparison. And yes, the mentality from some of the fathers to shake it off and get back out there was hard to stomach at times. I felt bad for some of those kids.

The concussion my son got was brutal. Couldn’t see straight for a couple days and couldn’t be around bright lights for about 5 days. It was not good. I would have been fine had he quit right there but he didn’t. one Of his good friends got a concussion a couple weeks later that had him vomitting and shaking uncontrollably for 2 days after.

And again. I have seen all of these injuries in other sports as well. But in football, it is more the norm than the exception.
 
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Lol. This is almost verbatim to my kids situation other than he wants to focus on lacrosse. (which is an awesome sport btw) The fathers in our programs are probably more legends in their own minds than actual legends as well, haha.

The injuries just got to be too much for me. I’ve seen my share of injuries in soccer and lacrosse but they are small in comparison. And yes, the mentality from some of the fathers to shake it off and get back out there was hard to stomach at times. I felt bad for some of those kids.

The concussion my son got was brutal. Couldn’t see straight for a couple days and couldn’t be around bright lights for about 5 days. It was not good. I would have been fine had he quit right there but he didn’t. one Of his good friends got a concussion a couple weeks later that had him vomitting and shaking uncontrollably for 2 days after.

And again. I have seen all of these injuries in other sports as well. But in football, it is more the norm than the exception.

Have a nephew (in-law ... not my direct gene pool ... we have solid noggins in our family, and are at least regular sized) who was a football maniac ... only problem was, he was tiny. He ended up getting a couple of concussions in fairly rapid succession playing as a safety and then he got a big one. Knocked him out of school for months. Migraines, trouble focusing, light sensitivity ... the whole shebang. Never played again, but is now working for ESPN because he can't get enough, I guess.

Lax sux ... may it DIAF ... baseball 4eva.
 

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Lol. This is almost verbatim to my kids situation other than he wants to focus on lacrosse. (which is an awesome sport btw) The fathers in our programs are probably more legends in their own minds than actual legends as well, haha.

The injuries just got to be too much for me. I’ve seen my share of injuries in soccer and lacrosse but they are small in comparison. And yes, the mentality from some of the fathers to shake it off and get back out there was hard to stomach at times. I felt bad for some of those kids.

The concussion my son got was brutal. Couldn’t see straight for a couple days and couldn’t be around bright lights for about 5 days. It was not good. I would have been fine had he quit right there but he didn’t. one Of his good friends got a concussion a couple weeks later that had him vomitting and shaking uncontrollably for 2 days after.

And again. I have seen all of these injuries in other sports as well. But in football, it is more the norm than the exception.
I was playing DE my jr year when I messed up my knee. Mark played LB behind me. The next year I was watching from the stands when he made that text book helmet to the chest tackle and dropped like he’d been shot. He was laid out for 20 minutes and couldn’t feel anything from his chest down.

Eventually his whole body started tingling like a foot that’s been asleep waking up. He said it hurt like hell but they told him it meant his cord wasn’t severed. Long story short, his football career was over (he was a serious prospect) but he recovered and married his HS sweetheart. Still married forty years later.

His older brother played for Dean at UNC and his number is retired. He was the last guy to wear 23 before Michael Jordan. 😉
 

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Every idiot player I have in a boot or cast currently injured themselves doing something other than football. One broken thumb punching a heavy bag with Dad. One playing basketball in his driveway. One running cross country at 6 am in the dark and stepping off a curb. Everything except football is dangerous. I have data. Go football!
 

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Just so we are clear, other sports also have a risk of tbi and cte. Just that football leads the list. No league might be going bankrupt but there are many athletes who are going to be using a sippy cup unless more research on diagnostics and therapy is funded.
 
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