I don't watch FOX so I need some help here. Is this to be taken as humor, satire or literally?

RagnarLothbrok

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I haven’t watched a tv “news” program in years. Just recently started watching CNBC again, Kernen keeps that show grounded.

I wonder how much longer these channels stay relevant as the medium for news seems to have switched to online as opposed to cable. We barely watch TV in my house, pretty much just sporting events.
Sports and streaming services like Prime or Netflix are it for me. I actually feel sorry for anyone glued to Fox News or MSNBC.
 

RagnarLothbrok

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not true...they respect their ability to look pretty, produce children, and....

i'm sure there are a few more things....
Or, to go in the opposite direction, Democrats respect women…their ability to disdain nuclear families, heterosexuality, and any lack of government dependency.

I’m sure there is more low-hanging fruit to reach for…

😉
 

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Or, to go in the opposite direction, Democrats respect women…their ability to disdain nuclear families, heterosexuality, and any lack of government dependency.

I’m sure there is more low-hanging fruit to reach for…

😉
i get this is kind of your thing (being the best version of a both-sides guy, i guess), but this is a big swing and miss
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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i get this is kind of your thing (being the best version of a both-sides guy, i guess), but this is a big swing and miss
I’m not a both sides guy. Never have been.

I am conservative and I despise Trump, the MAGA Idiot Brigade, and the irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party I was once a registered part of. I have never wavered on that regardless of how many times I get accused of being a communist or Nazi sympathizer.

In the words of Joe Walsh, “It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame; everybody’s so different, I haven’t changed.”
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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I mean, it's true.. why do you believe i shouldn't mock you people when you bring up women's anything with that in mind? Honest question.
night what do you mean GIF
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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Watching clips from the OP.
I watched it. There was nothing out of bounds at any point. Everything Waters said was true and common sense regardless of the conservative flavoring it was spiced with—which was fairly mild.

You missed nothing.
 
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Torbee

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I’m not a both sides guy. Never have been.

I am conservative and I despise Trump, the MAGA Idiot Brigade, and the irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party I was once a registered part of. I have never wavered on that regardless of how many times I get accused of being a communist or Nazi sympathizer.

In the words of Joe Walsh, “It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame; everybody’s so different, I haven’t changed.”
I like you Rag, but you are aware that Walsh line is self-effacing satire right?

He is making fun of himself being unaware of how fortune and fame changed him and passing it off as though it was everyone else who actually changed (a meta commentary on the way success morphs a person)
 

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The mental health studies out there pretty much confirm everything he just said. Over "educated" liberal women are statistically some of the least happy people in our country and their outlooks both professionally and romantically have never been worse in modern times.
Its because they realize how stupid people like you are and how hopeless the situation is. You actively allow yourself to be deceived into voting against your own interests because trans people exist.
Its a depressing realization. But it requires and education and intelligence to understand to the point it affects your mental health.
Smart people in general battle depression.
 

Tom Paris

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I think most people understand that Fox, MS Now, and most of these talk shows are "entertainment" or opinions and not news. It seems as if the basis of TV news these days is manipulation and opposed to information.
Both sides!! Let me know when MSNow or CNN settle a lawsuit for 787 million dollars because they were lying. Let me know when their lawyers admit in court that they lie. Because that’s Fox News. If you think Sean Hannity and Lawrence O’Donnell are the same thing, then you remain part of the problem, bins.
 
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This is literally the THIRD different interview/talking head I have seen parroting the “downwardly mobile”/educated but unemployed talking point in the last 48 hours.

This is clearly state propaganda.
Calling women pieces of s.hit is an interesting strategy heading into the midterms. Let's see how it works out for them.
 

BelemNole

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So the guy who was laughing about women being raped after the military starts doling out testosterone is now telling women that higher education won't help you get married?
Seems consistent anyway.
 
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dpic73

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“one that gives accurate news.“

Like CNN?
You clearly haven't watched CNN in a long time if you think all they do is spread fake news. They are owned by a conservative and I see more Republican pundits/politicians there than on any channel except FoxNews. Almost every show to a fault has a mix of Dems and Repubs in order to give a balanced view to every issue. In fact, their highest rated show at 10:00 PM always has 2 -3 Republicans on their round table every night - the show that made Republican Scott Jennings famous for chrissakes. Comparing them to FOX doesn't apply even a little bit.
 

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Calling women pieces of s.hit is an interesting strategy heading into the midterms. Let's see how it works out for them.
This is my thought- I'm sure they have studies showing that it works with men/trad wives, but wow what a bold strategy. They really want that tent closed and think they can win with only the maga base/maga adjacent
 
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You clearly haven't watched CNN in a long time if you think all they do is spread fake news. They are owned by a conservative and I see more Republican pundits/politicians there than on any channel except FoxNews. Almost every show to a fault has a mix of Dems and Repubs in order to give a balanced view to every issue. In fact, their highest rated show at 10:00 PM always has 2 -3 Republicans on their round table every night - the show that made Republican Scott Jennings famous for chrissakes. Comparing them to FOX doesn't apply even a little bit.
Gdamn you crack me up

 

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Gdamn you crack me up


These are old clips but what did they get wrong? Marco Rubio confirmed it himself.

“What the Committee did find however is very troubling. We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling.

“Now, as we head towards the 2020 elections, China and Iran have joined Russia in attempts to disrupt our democracy, exacerbate societal divisions, and sow doubts about the legitimacy and integrity of our institutions, our electoral process and our republic.


“We must do better in 2020. The Committee’s five reports detail the signs and symptoms of that interference and show us how to protect campaigns, state and local entities, our public discourse, and our democratic institutions. I join with Vice Chairman Warner in urging everyone — our colleagues, those in the Administration, state and local elections officials, the media, and the American public — to read them and take the recommendations seriously.”


 

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These are old clips but what did they get wrong? Marco Rubio confirmed it himself.

“What the Committee did find however is very troubling. We found irrefutable evidence of Russian meddling.

“Now, as we head towards the 2020 elections, China and Iran have joined Russia in attempts to disrupt our democracy, exacerbate societal divisions, and sow doubts about the legitimacy and integrity of our institutions, our electoral process and our republic.


“We must do better in 2020. The Committee’s five reports detail the signs and symptoms of that interference and show us how to protect campaigns, state and local entities, our public discourse, and our democratic institutions. I join with Vice Chairman Warner in urging everyone — our colleagues, those in the Administration, state and local elections officials, the media, and the American public — to read them and take the recommendations seriously.”



Good god
 

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I’m not a both sides guy. Never have been.

I am conservative and I despise Trump, the MAGA Idiot Brigade, and the irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party I was once a registered part of. I have never wavered on that regardless of how many times I get accused of being a communist or Nazi sympathizer.

In the words of Joe Walsh, “It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame; everybody’s so different, I haven’t changed.”
Quick question, how do you reconcile being a republican and a teacher. Do you vote against your best interest? Are you not pro union?
 

GesterHawk

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Like CNN? lol
It was actually Fox's legal defense in some of the trials where they were being sued a while back.







AI Overview:



Fox News has successfully used an "entertainment defense" in court, with lawyers arguing that primetime hosts engage in "exaggeration" and "non-literal commentary" rather than stating actual facts. The network has employed this strategy to defeat defamation lawsuits, successfully persuading judges that no "reasonable viewer" takes certain opinion hosts literally.

The "Entertainment" Defense in Practice
    • The Tucker Carlson Case (2020): A federal judge dismissed a defamation lawsuit brought against Fox News after the network's attorneys argued that host Tucker Carlson is an entertainer whose viewers do not expect him to state literal facts. The judge agreed, noting that the show relies on "non-literal commentary". [1, 2]
    • The Karen McDougal Precedent: In a similar case, Fox News won a dismissal by successfully arguing that a reasonable viewer understands primetime hosts utilize hyperbole and opinion, shielding the network from defamation liability. [1, 2]


Defamation and Payouts
While the "entertainment" or "opinion" defense works in some contexts, it has led to major legal and financial consequences for the network.
    • Dominion Voting Systems Settlement (2023): Fox News settled a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit by agreeing to pay Dominion $787.5 million. Internal discovery revealed that Fox hosts privately messaged doubts about election fraud claims while continuing to air them on the network. [1, 2, 3]
    • Smartmatic Lawsuit: Fox News also faces an ongoing $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit from Smartmatic regarding similar 2020 election broadcast claims. [1, 2]


So no, not like CNN.