Speaking about biases! My little one is entering 9th grade this fall so college is becoming more real. We were in the area over the weekend and visited the Villanova campus. Holy hell that campus is gorgeous. We were all very impressed. Lots of kids from her school go to the Nova, so you never know. However, as of now, she is interested in architecture and business/marketing. Nova has the latter, but not the former.
Im thinking UDel and Maryland are in the Mid Atlantic and therefore behind UVA.
I feel like Nova is good at business but pretty meh outside of that. Solid school and easily 2nd best in and around Philly after Penn though. I believe Drexel has architecture.
My oldest did a summer camp there (3 or 4 yrs ago). The dorms they stayed at was probably worst than BAMM dorms on Bush.
Good call on Swarthmore. That's a liberal arts school that is academically worth the price tag.
yup, great school and gorgeous campus. I think the biggest mistake they made was not going bigtime in d1 football
Yes, Drexel and UPenn have architecture programs (either 4 or 5 year). The 4-year is a BA/BS and the 5-year is the B.Arch degree which seems to come with positives and negatives.
Yeah, we didn't do a tour, just walked around the campus for a while. The main student center and a few other buildings were open. Didn't see the dorms. It seems like the Nova has a ton of money, so maybe the upgraded the dorms? No idea.
I went to the source, Avenir Admissions. The ranking are as weird as their map.
Swarthmore is a very good school, but all liberal arts schools are limited with the academic programs they offer. I guess it just depends on if it is good fit with the student.
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My oldest kid is headed to a medium size college of 5,000 undergrads. I was looking at the course offerings this weekend and most of the courses I took at Rutgers are not offered there. Now I appreciate the breadth of the course offering at Rutgers.
I know 4 guys that have architecture degrees and all 4 are in finance.
Some of of the liberal arts schools have fantastic science programs. I know a Swarthmore alum who majored in chemistry, and maybe it's just that person, but very impressive.
Is he interested in marine sciences? Wouldn't a school on one of the coasts have a stronger marine science program?
you would think but it's not so cut and dry, certainly not the case as each has a focus area of sorts and program, research opportunities etc.... UNC, Duke, A&M for instance have good programs as well and are land locked. Purdue's is actually pretty good and they've a professor who is an expert in sharks (his area of intended focus). He'll need a PhD regardless so while Purdue is more focused on freshwater, he still has plenty of options with the practicums. Plus Purdue is one of the few programs where you get your AFS after. He did a scheduled visit last semester and did the whole tour plus my older son is there and they took care of him so he thinks it's like that all the time lol
Miami!!! That would be my choice for all the wrong reasons-those that do not include academics!
ha, I get it, I really do! UW has a great program as well but it's far At least with UCLA, my sister is out there.
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A couple of points.
1. The X poster is with Manhattan Institute--it is a conservative think tank, so that perspective should be kept in mind.
2. The Materials Science and Engineering program at Rutgers, if I am correct, seems to have less than 10 undergraduates enrolled. I say this from the perspective of someone who does an annual class/lecture to their senior seminar. I'm fairly sure this seminar is a required course. Does this mean that department should be closed too?
3. I am fairly sure Materials Science and Engineering brings in large amounts of research funding, and the graduate programs are the cornerstone of that Department. [USER=1070515]@Fat Koko[/USER] does an excellent job of finding facts, and maybe he kind find more.
4. Don't know much about Women's and Gender Studies and whether similar considerations on graduate education and research funding apply to such departments. However, while some conservative think thanks want to sneer and belittle ***** phobia, homophobia and transphobia, maybe some of these people may want to take a look in the mirror and think about maybe their actions and social media posts may be fueling the basis of some of the research and programs. On this point, had an interesting discussion with a gay friend yesterday who noted that he and his husband were together for 21 years, but married for only 12 years. I naively asked why---and he said because they could not get legally married in the US until 12 years ago. Perhaps the work for Women's and Gender Studies had something to do with that change?
Interesting reply post from Rutgers Professor Richard Ebright, Board of Governors Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology. Perhaps the esteemed Professor should say in his chemical biology lane.
Before anyone rips my head off, I am not advocating for or against anything. As with any topic, there is nuance, and facts and reasoned discussion may help gain an understanding from both sides of an issue. But in this social media, clickbait/rage bait world, that is rarely possible.
https://finance.rutgers.edu/sites/default/files/2023-09/FY 2024 Budget by Unit.pdfGraduate - Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies
Students can earn a dual-title master’s degree (M.A./M.S.) or a dual-title Ph.D. in Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS). The Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS) graduate program at Penn State is a nationally and internationally recognized interdisciplinary program committed...
Rutgers Materials Science and Engineering Undergraduate Curriculum
Course Curriculum | Materials Science and Engineering
mse.rutgers.edu
Penn State Gender Studies Department Overview
Graduate - Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies
Students can earn a dual-title master’s degree (M.A./M.S.) or a dual-title Ph.D. in Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS). The Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS) graduate program at Penn State is a nationally and internationally recognized interdisciplinary program committed...
Back when I was a student at Rutgers, the old Department of Ceramic Engineering was a grant juggernaut. We were doing cutting edge high temperature superconductor research, research on heat shield tiles for the space shuttle, fiber optic research, and many other hot technology projects. Those were great days.
www.newark.rutgers.edu
A couple of points.
1. The X poster is with Manhattan Institute--it is a conservative think tank, so that perspective should be kept in mind.
2. The Materials Science and Engineering program at Rutgers, if I am correct, seems to have less than 10 undergraduates enrolled. I say this from the perspective of someone who does an annual class/lecture to their senior seminar. I'm fairly sure this seminar is a required course. Does this mean that department should be closed too?
3. I am fairly sure Materials Science and Engineering brings in large amounts of research funding, and the graduate programs are the cornerstone of that Department. @Fat Koko does an excellent job of finding facts, and maybe he kind find more.
4. Don't know much about Women's and Gender Studies and whether similar considerations on graduate education and research funding apply to such departments. However, while some conservative think thanks want to sneer and belittle ***** phobia, homophobia and transphobia, maybe some of these people may want to take a look in the mirror and think about maybe their actions and social media posts may be fueling the basis of some of the research and programs. On this point, had an interesting discussion with a gay friend yesterday who noted that he and his husband were together for 21 years, but married for only 12 years. I naively asked why---and he said because they could not get legally married in the US until 12 years ago. Perhaps the work for Women's and Gender Studies had something to do with that change?
Interesting reply post from Rutgers Professor Richard Ebright, Board of Governors Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology. Perhaps the esteemed Professor should say in his chemical biology lane.
Before anyone rips my head off, I am not advocating for or against anything. As with any topic, there is nuance, and facts and reasoned discussion may help gain an understanding from both sides of an issue. But in this social media, clickbait/rage bait world, that is rarely possible.
Graduate - Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies
Students can earn a dual-title master’s degree (M.A./M.S.) or a dual-title Ph.D. in Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS). The Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS) graduate program at Penn State is a nationally and internationally recognized interdisciplinary program committed...
Rutgers Materials Science and Engineering Undergraduate Curriculum
Course Curriculum | Materials Science and Engineering
Penn State Gender Studies Department Overview
Graduate - Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies
Students can earn a dual-title master’s degree (M.A./M.S.) or a dual-title Ph.D. in Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS). The Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies (WGSS) graduate program at Penn State is a nationally and internationally recognized interdisciplinary program committed...
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Back when I was a student at Rutgers, the old Department of Ceramic Engineering was a grant juggernaut. We were doing cutting edge high temperature superconductor research, research on heat shield tiles for the space shuttle, fiber optic research, and many other hot technology projects. Those were great days.
Question on the Women's Leadership grants and contracts- could gender studies fall under another academic department? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pump up the department--just trying to be sure about whether they bring in any money.
I realize some people do not align with the purpose of these departments, but they do bring in research money and grants.
While not the department you listed, there is this for the Law School:
$6.5M Grant in (2023)
Rutgers Law Receives $6.4 Million Gift Honoring Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Women's Rights Clinic
Rutgers Law School received $6.5 million, one of the largest gifts in its history, to help establish the Ruth Bader Ginsburg Women’s Rights and Gender Justice Clinic. The gift was announced at a ceremony celebrating a commemorative stamp of Ginsburg.
Broader $15M Grant for Racial Justice Studies (2020):
Women's, Gender, and Sexuality Studies is part of the School of Arts and Sciences, which has 100+ majors, but grants and contracts are not broken out for WGS studies as they are for engineering.Back when I was a student at Rutgers, the old Department of Ceramic Engineering was a grant juggernaut. We were doing cutting edge high temperature superconductor research, research on heat shield tiles for the space shuttle, fiber optic research, and many other hot technology projects. Those were great days.
Question on the Women's Leadership grants and contracts- could gender studies fall under another academic department? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pump up the department--just trying to be sure about whether they bring in any money.
I realize some people do not align with the purpose of these departments, but they do bring in research money and grants.
While not the department you listed, there is this for the Law School:
$6.5M Grant in (2023)
Rutgers Law Receives $6.4 Million Gift Honoring Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Women's Rights Clinic
Rutgers Law School received $6.5 million, one of the largest gifts in its history, to help establish the Ruth Bader Ginsburg Women’s Rights and Gender Justice Clinic. The gift was announced at a ceremony celebrating a commemorative stamp of Ginsburg.
Broader $15M Grant for Racial Justice Studies (2020):
I know this is a generalization, but I have never heard/read a coherent argument for why those demographic-based studies majors exist and what they qualify students for (except more school).Back when I was a student at Rutgers, the old Department of Ceramic Engineering was a grant juggernaut. We were doing cutting edge high temperature superconductor research, research on heat shield tiles for the space shuttle, fiber optic research, and many other hot technology projects. Those were great days.
Question on the Women's Leadership grants and contracts- could gender studies fall under another academic department? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pump up the department--just trying to be sure about whether they bring in any money.
I realize some people do not align with the purpose of these departments, but they do bring in research money and grants.
While not the department you listed, there is this for the Law School:
$6.5M Grant in (2023)
Rutgers Law Receives $6.4 Million Gift Honoring Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Women's Rights Clinic
Rutgers Law School received $6.5 million, one of the largest gifts in its history, to help establish the Ruth Bader Ginsburg Women’s Rights and Gender Justice Clinic. The gift was announced at a ceremony celebrating a commemorative stamp of Ginsburg.
Broader $15M Grant for Racial Justice Studies (2020):
Hey, I can see your posts now. LOL! Deleted my long forgotten ignore list last week since traffic on the site is so much lighter. No need to filter anything anymore.
