sounds like it might very well be the first major domino to separate from the NCAA
SEC leaving the NCAA
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Can you actually leave something that doesn't really exist anymore?...
Three straight years without a single team reaching the championship game and now they want to take their football and go home.
I don’t even care anymore. College sports have gotten so messed up by the big money.
Turns out that “SEC Speed” disappeared when the rest of the country started buying players too
And Kentucky suddenly forgot how to play basketball...
I think it would work out best if there was a minor league system where guys could play if they don't care about school, and schools can return to scholarships-only for guys that want to go to school, and happen to play football while they're there.
The problem is/was that there was no minor leagues, and the NFL won't draft you until three years out of HS, so guys that want to make money sooner had no opportunity, so they fought to turn college into a way to make money. At the same time, colleges were after the big network revenues, so they hired big-time coaches, and attracted big-time players.
If you have the for-profit minor-league football, and let the colleges return to their actual mission of educating people, then the coaches move on to the minor-league programs to coach the better players, and they're no longer the highest-paid state employees in most states. The students still get to go watch football on the weekend, people can still root for their favorite teams, but the tickets no longer cost hundreds of dollars each to go.
Disclaimer: I'm old, and I can remember when I was a kid and we'd get free tickets to go watch college football games like aTm vs TCU. I went to several Cotton Bowl games where the tickets were $25 each. Also, my daughter goes to Baylor and, aside for her first year there when they won the Big 12, I haven't had to worry about the costs of "big time football" at her school.
The problem is/was that there was no minor leagues, and the NFL won't draft you until three years out of HS, so guys that want to make money sooner had no opportunity, so they fought to turn college into a way to make money. At the same time, colleges were after the big network revenues, so they hired big-time coaches, and attracted big-time players.
If you have the for-profit minor-league football, and let the colleges return to their actual mission of educating people, then the coaches move on to the minor-league programs to coach the better players, and they're no longer the highest-paid state employees in most states. The students still get to go watch football on the weekend, people can still root for their favorite teams, but the tickets no longer cost hundreds of dollars each to go.
Disclaimer: I'm old, and I can remember when I was a kid and we'd get free tickets to go watch college football games like aTm vs TCU. I went to several Cotton Bowl games where the tickets were $25 each. Also, my daughter goes to Baylor and, aside for her first year there when they won the Big 12, I haven't had to worry about the costs of "big time football" at her school.
This, I’ve said the same thing before. Create minor league football and get college sports back to college sports.
Careful, I believe many on this site were in love with this bum and probably still think he’s one of the greatest Iowa basketball players. Only took him 6 years to set some records.
The problem is this will make college football far less competitive, so people will not pack stadiums, pay thousands of dollars for tickets and then television will not pay billions for the product so no college will ever go along with the plan.
Article confirming SEC talks are happening.
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/sec-breaking-away-ncaa-very-135638710.html
A storm may be brewing for college football and the NCAA as we know it. During the offseason, rumors surfaced that the SEC and Big Ten were exploring the possibility of breaking away from the NCAA.
While the Big Ten has not pushed the conversation forward, the SEC has. At the very least, conference leaders are beginning to take the idea seriously.
Heather Dinich of ESPN reported as much after SEC commissioner Greg Sankey addressed the speculation.
“It’s very real,” Dinich said.
SEC breaking away from NCAA ‘very real’, but also very foolish
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/sec-breaking-away-ncaa-very-135638710.html
A storm may be brewing for college football and the NCAA as we know it. During the offseason, rumors surfaced that the SEC and Big Ten were exploring the possibility of breaking away from the NCAA.
While the Big Ten has not pushed the conversation forward, the SEC has. At the very least, conference leaders are beginning to take the idea seriously.
Heather Dinich of ESPN reported as much after SEC commissioner Greg Sankey addressed the speculation.
“It’s very real,” Dinich said.
(I genuinely don't have the data) How many big-time college programs get a substantive cut of the revenue from the football program, outside of the athletics department? I feel like the machine mostly just feeds itself.
Yes, college football will become less competitive without the top-tier athletics-only players. But you'll still have plenty of kids who like football and also realize they should get a college degree from a good school, for free if they can. And I think you'd still see plenty of people going to the games - especially if you can bring the cost of attending the games back down to where it's reasonable for a family to go.
I feel like top-tier college football is a self-contained ecosystem that lives outside of the rest of the university: stadiums, coaches, players, boosters, sponsors, networks, etc. If you remove that entire ecosystem, the core mission of the school is unaffected, and probably gains additional credibility as academics resume a more prominent role.
It IS a machine that feeds itself.
The part you are missing is that the “academic” side is part of the big self-feeding machine and is hooked on the cash.
So why are people still watching college football now then? These guys are getting paid millions and they are far less competitive than NFL players and some of these college players are getting paid more than NFL players.
id be more willing to go watch a guy play that isn’t being paid millions than a low end NFL quality player making way more money than he should.
id rather support a guy getting an education than a guy that will most likely blow all his money in a few years and have nothing when he doesn’t make the nfl.
football and baseball are completely different due to physicality of the two sports
That’s the biggest reason other attempts to create another professional football league fail
The other professional football leagues didn’t pay much and also had guys not making it in the nfl. What is being talked about is having young college aged men that most like will make it to the nfl in a few years. There is a huge difference between having guys in your league that have potential and washed up guys with no potential. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
don't you think the horse is out of the barn with the court decisions on paying players???
MLB created their farm programs as a feeder system because they had to,... NFL and NBA rode on the college system because they were able to...
THATS ME AT 3AMS WAKING UP TO THE GAME THREAD GETTING YELLED AT
HAS there been a "great Iowa basketball player?" I can't think of even one. At least not one on the mens' side.
College football is not the one that would struggle in a post acadamia break up.
The schools need the football more than the football needs the schools at this point.
"Roll tide" is a brand. The University of Alabama would actually have to stand on its own credentials.
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Certainly not Bohannan though and many on the iowa boards thought he was a god when he was playing. I couldnt wait until he was gone, unfortunately it took 6 years to get rid of him. The guy never would have seen the court with Ben as the coach.
Tell me you've never heard of Li'l Lick without telling me you've never heard of Li'l Lick.
Evidently you’re not old enough to remember Steve Carfino.