Could we hire PJ Fleck after this season?

[OG Goat Holder]

The shine is off of him because he hasn’t had that elite season, but that’s only because stupid people run the show. But he’s the exact type guy that has the plan needed to win here, and I’m afraid we gonna find out in a couple months.

I mean we pulled Mike Leach so maybe we can pull him. It’d be a stepping stone for him but he’s the only younger type coach I’d want that I think we could get. Maybe he’s ready to reset and get paid.

I know Sappy Salmon isn’t going to use my plan and get the older guy, so this is the next best thing. Get a good 5-7 years out of him, then implement my plan.

@Bulldawg77 say, we have all this money, well, let’s spend it wisely.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

but that’s only because stupid people run the show.

How is that different here?

 

[OG Goat Holder]

How is that different here?

It’s not, I’m just thinking Salmun might go for it.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

God I hope not

 

[85Bears]

He would be a good hire but there’s no way he’d take this job

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

After State beats that Golpher Tail, we wouldn’t want him.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

God I hope not

Makes me want him more. In what 17ing universe would you rather have Lenny over Fleck you stupid 17.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

He would be a good hire but there’s no way he’d take this job

Maybe, maybe not. He may be ready to make a move, before the final move.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

After State beats that Golpher Tail, we wouldn’t want him.

We hired O'Connor after having both beaten him and lost to him in a recent NCAA Tournament.

 

[85Bears]

Side note : PJ Fleck makes 7.9 million a year, Jeff Lebby makes 4.35 million a year.

 

[leeinator]

I wanted Kenny Dillingham several years ago.

 

[Maroon13]

I know Sappy Salmon isn’t going to use my plan and get the older guy, so this is the next best thing. Get a good 5-7 years out of him,

Salmon will ask his brain trust.... Brian and Robbie.

Seriously, yeah I agree. I would take him in a minute as I kicked Lenny out the back door. But I doubt Minnesota is dumb enough to can him. I don't believe State can buy him out.

Btw, State will be "swiping right" on every coach available if things go south again this year.

 

[Bulldawg77]

I wanted Kenny Dillingham several years ago.

Several would mean when he was 3-8 his first year at AZ St? You wanted him then?

 

[Bulldawg77]

Let’s see how these first 5 games go before you fire up the hot boards. Minn could have easily been 4-8 last year, won three games by a TD or less. I think we beat them by 10-14 points September 12. They won’t be any better than the AZ State team we beat last year. I get it… for some of you it’s sixpack cool not to research our roster, but we have significantly upgraded both roster and coaching staff. Hell Goat and 85 couldn’t tell you who our coaches are now.
One last thing.. not sure why you have this disdain for Selmon. Guy has done a tremendous job of getting into the 21 century especially from an economic standpoint. From NIL/REV share to facility upgrades to hires he’s done a good job. Obviously football has to get right and I believe we will get it right this year. However, If not then Selmon has shown he’s not afraid to the pull the trigger.

 

[leeinator]

Several would mean when he was 3-8 his first year at AZ St? You wanted him then?

Yeah, everybody knew he was an up and coming new coach that was very much like a young Nick Saban...........I guess, maybe, except for you.

 

[Bulldawg77]

Yeah, everybody knew he was an up and coming new coach that was very much like a young Nick Saban...........I guess, maybe, except for you.

He was the OC at Oregon. He got the Az state job went 3-8 his first year. He was able to turn it around in year two thanks to a RB that no one heard of. Is he a good coach. Sure he’s proven his ability to win in a watered down big 12… Let’s not forget , Lebby did beat him last year, and Hutzler controlled his QB. Now you loose all credibility thinking he’s the next Saban. Dudes a whiny little *****.. also to say he’s who you wanted the same time we were looking for a coach is just neglecting that his resume before 2024 was pretty bleak. Each time you post it’s shows now little you know about football

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Salmon will ask his brain trust.... Brian and Robbie.

Seriously, yeah I agree. I would take him in a minute as I kicked Lenny out the back door. But I doubt Minnesota is dumb enough to can him. I don't believe State can buy him out.

Btw, State will be "swiping right" on every coach available if things go south again this year.

Buyout only 4.5M, unless I'm reading it wrong.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

In what 17ing universe would you rather have Lenny over Fleck you stupid 17.

He didn’t say that.

 

[Drebin]

Let’s see how these first 5 games go before you fire up the hot boards. Minn could have easily been 4-8 last year, won three games by a TD or less. I think we beat them by 10-14 points September 12. They won’t be any better than the AZ State team we beat last year. I get it… for some of you it’s sixpack cool not to research our roster, but we have significantly upgraded both roster and coaching staff. Hell Goat and 85 couldn’t tell you who our coaches are now.
One last thing.. not sure why you have this disdain for Selmon. Guy has done a tremendous job of getting into the 21 century especially from an economic standpoint. From NIL/REV share to facility upgrades to hires he’s done a good job. Obviously football has to get right and I believe we will get it right this year. However, If not then Selmon has shown he’s not afraid to the pull the trigger.

Spoiler alert: You can fire up the hot board.

 

[Bulldawg77]

Spoiler alert: You can fire up the hot board.

We will see. This is the most talent Lebby has had, the best staff we have had since Mullen, and the more manageable schedule Lebby has had.

 

[Drebin]

We will see. This is the most talent Lebby has had, the best staff we have had since Mullen, and the more manageable schedule (Auburn Vandy at home).

We say these things every year. It's still Lebby under the headset.

 

[BIGDAWG44]

We reached out to him the year we ended up hiring leach. He’s a Midwest guy that wants to stay in the Midwest.

 

[vhdawg]

I think our fanbase would be so annoyed by PJ Fleck, the way he dresses, the motivational stuff, all of it.

 

[Drebin]

I think our fanbase would be so annoyed by PJ Fleck, the way he dresses, the motivational stuff, all of it.

Yes. It's an absolutely horrible fit.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I think our fanbase would be so annoyed by PJ Fleck, the way he dresses, the motivational stuff, all of it.

I'd say our fanbase is a big part of our problem.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

We reached out to him the year we ended up hiring leach. He’s a Midwest guy that wants to stay in the Midwest.

Back when we had competent AD leadership (as far as hiring coaches).

 

[Bulldawg77]

We say these things every year. It's still Lebby under the headset.

I said last year we were more talented than 2024. I didn’t say anything about the staff other than adding MAC and Rhodes. We in fact were more talent in 25 than we were in 24. Yes we should have won Tenn Texas and FL.
This year we are more talented than 25, we have added better coaches and you will see that on the field.
Schedulenis more manageable than the last two years

 

[Bulldawg77]

Back when we had competent AD leadership (as far as hiring coaches).

Is this a real post. Cohen was the worst AD we have had since LT. He hires Moorehead, he wanted to hire judge before one of our assistant AD was contacted by leach reps. Not cohen. Boosters hires Jan’s. Not Cohen. He hired Andy C… that worked out well. Right … cohen then left because he didn’t want to deal with NIL. He’s probably going to get fired at AU because brining in Freeze followed by Golesh isn’t going to move that fan base. Golesh then decided to bring in his USF team. Good luck comrade . Cohen then promoted pearls son to basketball HC. You keep posting the most ridiculous stuff

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I said last year we were more talented than 2024. I didn’t say anything about the staff other than adding MAC and Rhodes. We in fact were more talent in 25 than we were in 24. Yes we found have won Tenn Texas and FL.
This year we are more talented than 25, we have added better coaches and you will see that on the field.
Schedulenis more manageable than the last two years

Worst case is to go 6-6 or 7-5, because then we will extend Lenny, and after the last of the Leach guys leave this year, we will promptly go 3-9 or worse in 2027.

We should have learned our lesson from the Croom Error. When you know you know. We're trying to go to the playoff every once in a while, not go to a bowl game.

 

[SanfordRJones]

We will see. This is the most talent Lebby has had, the best staff we have had since Mullen, and the more manageable schedule Lebby has had.

No it isn't. In what world is a staff headed by Jeff Lebby better than a staff headed by Mike Leach?

 

[Bulldawg77]

Worst case is to go 6-6 or 7-5, because then we will extend Lenny, and after the last of the Leach guys leave this year, we will promptly go 3-9 or worse in 2027.

We should have learned our lesson from the Croom Error. When you know you know.

When you say this do you read … 2-10, 5-7, 7-5 is improving. Jones would be the biggest loss however having a first rounder isn’t a bad thing. Where it gets dicey is 6-6 especially if it’s a third time loss to OM.

 

[The Peeper]

If not Fleck, what about Phil Collins? Wonder if he knows football, the American kind?

 

[Bulldawg77]

No it isn't. In what world is a staff headed by Jeff Lebby better than a staff headed by Mike Leach?

Having Mason Miller back in staff… he was in leach staff. Give my Phillip Montgomery over Steve spurrier JR all day. Anthony Tucker as RB coach over Jason Washington. Leach didn’t have a TE coach or a TE on the roster. Warren over Phelps all day at DT. Dancy over Phelps as well. Brock and Arnett were on staff. Mele was ST coach he and Odom is say equal. Corners. Mcbath I’ll give the edge to. But adding Rhodes as corers with Kevie and Bell culmative is better. Adding John’s as QB coach is better than any other assistant offensive coach we had under leach

 

[OG Goat Holder]

When you say this do you read … 2-10, 5-7, 7-5 is improving. Jones would be the biggest loss however having a first rounder isn’t a bad thing. Where it gets dicey is 6-6 especially if it’s a third time loss to OM.

I don't care if he's improving if 7 wins is the peak. Even Croom did that. We're not trying to make bowl games here. That's the old school way, where you have this continual building and building, where we cared about bowl practices and such.

It's a different era. We're trying to make the playoff, period. We are wasting money right now. All this hard-earned money that your man Selmon has helped raise (to his credit) is being set on fire.

 

[SanfordRJones]

Having Mason Miller back in staff… he was in leach staff. Give my Phillip Montgomery over Steve spurrier JR all day. Anthony Tucker as RB coach over Jason Washington. Leach didn’t have a TE coach or a TE on the roster. Warren over Phelps all day at DT. Dancy over Phelps as well. Brock and Arnett were on staff. Mele was ST coach he and Odom is say equal. Corners. Mcbath I’ll give the edge to. But adding Rhodes as corers with Kevie and Bell culmative is better. Adding John’s as QB coach is better than any other assistant offensive coach we had under leach

You can compare and contrast position coaches all you want, but at the end of the day, Jeff Lebby is still the head coach. He's won 1 SEC game in 2 years.

 

[golferdog]

Yep, we still suck until proven otherwise. We have been terrible the last 2 years, so talent upgrade doesn't mean anything to me yet. We might be improved enough to win 6 games this year. We may only win 3 or 4. No one knows anything about this team yet.

 

[HailStout]

I hope Lebby is our coach in 27 and we are all excited about it

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

I'd say our fanbase is a big part of our problem.

Maybe, but it is what it is, and it's the only one we got. See how fast it changes when you're winning.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

7-5 means that Lebby went 5-0 in the "swing games" or else maybe went 4-1 and pulled off a really big upset.

And that's counting Missouri and Vanderbilt (teams were much better than us last year) as swing games, and also Auburn, who may not have been "much better" last year but will clearly be more talented and probably better coached.

If Lebby goes 7-5, he's probably gone 4-5 in the SEC, which is quintupling his career SEC win total in one more year.

It would be one of the greatest "turnaround seasons" in 21st century college football if Lebby went 7-5.

 

[Drebin]

I said last year we were more talented than 2024. I didn’t say anything about the staff other than adding MAC and Rhodes. We in fact were more talent in 25 than we were in 24. Yes we should have won Tenn Texas and FL.
This year we are more talented than 25, we have added better coaches and you will see that on the field.
Schedulenis more manageable than the last two years

"didn't say anything about the staff other than adding MAC and Rhodes" is saying something about the staff.

We had a better staff, better roster, OL would be much improved, yadda yadda. You say this stuff every year. You're an optimism guy; I get it. Nothing wrong with it. But don't move the goalposts after the fact.

As long as Lebby is in charge, any changes that are made year over year is rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. That's how i feel about it, not because I'm overly pessimistic, but because I've actually seen the guy coach and make ridiculous game time decisions. There's a level if ineptness there that never will improve, and can't be overcome. So I don't really want to talk about all of these improvements, or that I'm not giving enough to the BDC, or whatever. Because our defense could be salty, and we'll still be out there trying to throw the ball in game winning FG range against Florida, or mismanaging the clock with a late lead against Texas.