USA v Belgium thread.
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Of course he plays. He can’t not play now from the US perspective. There will almost certainly will be a court case in Switzerland over it if we win. There may be one even if we lose.
So a court case where FIFA will say 'suck it' after the ruling? An independent court has no jurisdiction over anyone.
Doku is a surprise. DeBruyne not as much. He’s old & well past his prime. They want him available for the end of the match. I expect he’ll be in about the 60 minute mark.
What’s a court in Switzerland going to do after the fact? Never mind that FIFA clearly has the authority to do this.
They were subbed off together at the hour mark last match when Belgium trailed 2-0 at the time. They are rewarding the players that helped the come back.
Actually it does when it comes to FIFA. Part of the game you sign up for if you play I think. It’s a court of arbitration. There have been some major cases it has decided over the years.
Can the Court of Arbitration for Sport Overturn FIFA Decisions?
Yes — the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) can overturn certain FIFA decisions, but only under specific conditions and within defined legal frameworks.CAS’s Role in FIFA Disputes
Under Article 57 of the FIFA Statutes, FIFA recognizes CAS as the independent body to resolve disputes between FIFA, its member associations, confederations, leagues, clubs, players, officials, and licensed agents inside.fifa.com. This includes appeals against:- Final decisions of FIFA’s own legal bodies
- Decisions made by confederations, member associations, or leagues
How Overturning Works
CAS uses its Appeals Procedure to review these decisions. This is not a retrial of the facts but a legal review to determine if the decision was correct under applicable law — which can include FIFA’s statutes, regulations, and relevant national or international law Charles Russell Speechlys. If CAS finds an error, it can set aside the decision and order a new one.Limitations
- Not all FIFA decisions are appealable. For example, certain match-day referee decisions (like red cards) are final and cannot be appealed to CAS Sporting News.
- CAS’s jurisdiction is limited to disputes between parties and FIFA’s own legal bodies; it does not review FIFA’s match officials or on-the-field decisions.
- The Appeals Procedure is the main route for overturning FIFA rulings, but it is not the only possible route.
Broader Legal Challenges
In addition to CAS, national courts can review CAS awards if they involve EU law. In 2025, the European Court of Justice ruled that EU national courts must be able to conduct an in‑depth review of CAS awards to ensure they comply with EU public policy News18+1. This means that in some cases, a decision from CAS could be challenged in a national court outside Switzerland, potentially leading to overturning.Key Takeaway
CAS can overturn FIFA decisions when those decisions are final and appealable under FIFA statutes. The process is legal review, not re‑hearing. However, in certain cases — especially where EU law is involved — national courts can also challenge and potentially overturn CAS rulings, adding another layer of possible reversal.Throw us out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player is certainly on the table. There is also another elephant in the room.
So what’s going to happen if the Swiss court does overturn the decision a few weeks or months from now? Maybe Balogun misses a meaningless nations league game? Who cares?
Can the Court of Arbitration for Sport Overturn FIFA Decisions?
Yes — the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) can overturn certain FIFA decisions, but only under specific conditions and within defined legal frameworks.
CAS’s Role in FIFA Disputes
Under Article 57 of the FIFA Statutes, FIFA recognizes CAS as the independent body to resolve disputes between FIFA, its member associations, confederations, leagues, clubs, players, officials, and licensed agents inside.fifa.com. This includes appeals against:
Appeals must be lodged with CAS within 21 days of receiving the decision inside.fifa.com.
- Final decisions of FIFA’s own legal bodies
- Decisions made by confederations, member associations, or leagues
How Overturning Works
CAS uses its Appeals Procedure to review these decisions. This is not a retrial of the facts but a legal review to determine if the decision was correct under applicable law — which can include FIFA’s statutes, regulations, and relevant national or international law Charles Russell Speechlys. If CAS finds an error, it can set aside the decision and order a new one.
Limitations
- Not all FIFA decisions are appealable. For example, certain match-day referee decisions (like red cards) are final and cannot be appealed to CAS Sporting News.
- CAS’s jurisdiction is limited to disputes between parties and FIFA’s own legal bodies; it does not review FIFA’s match officials or on-the-field decisions.
- The Appeals Procedure is the main route for overturning FIFA rulings, but it is not the only possible route.
Broader Legal Challenges
In addition to CAS, national courts can review CAS awards if they involve EU law. In 2025, the European Court of Justice ruled that EU national courts must be able to conduct an in‑depth review of CAS awards to ensure they comply with EU public policy News18+1. This means that in some cases, a decision from CAS could be challenged in a national court outside Switzerland, potentially leading to overturning.
Key Takeaway
CAS can overturn FIFA decisions when those decisions are final and appealable under FIFA statutes. The process is legal review, not re‑hearing. However, in certain cases — especially where EU law is involved — national courts can also challenge and potentially overturn CAS rulings, adding another layer of possible reversal.
There is an expedited process where they rule within 48 hours. Belgium is supposedly going to ask for that. I doubt it happens but it is a possibility.
Suspending our player for something that wasn’t his fault was crazy.
There’s not much that I like about our president but seeing how a huge segment of the population is reacting to this makes me hope Balogun scores 9 goals tonight and does the Trump dance after every one of them.
In fact… as I think about it.. this is sort of how Trump got elected. Just told people you don’t have to take the bulls hit and I’ll fix it for you
They are ranked 9th. We are 17th. They are by far the best team we have played in this tournament.
I wonder what percentage of the US genpop could locate Belgium within 1,000 miles on an unmarked globe.
I really don’t get the lack of aggressiveness from our defenders. That goal should have never happened if somebody aggressively goes after Freeman’s header and clears it.
Belgium is better. They also might just be pissed off + better.
After that start by Belgium for us to down only 1 is something of a win. Still a lot of time. Sometimes surviving an opening blitz like that can bode well
