I’m sure you’re wrong all the time. Don’t worry about it too much. Read a history book sometime. Why would the 13 colonies all have state Christian religions if this country wasn’t founded by Christians?
Effing schools are indoctrinating our children
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Because the colonies were not the federal government. Take a knee... you have no f'n idea what you're talking about.
Liberals scared to read the Bible is laughable to me. Oh no, your children may realize you’re leading them astray!
This isn't about the Bible, dipshit. It's about the Constitution. That you can't understand what the thread is about just cements your stupidity in place.
The constitution allows Texas to teach the Bible in school. We will see what the Supreme Court says. They are lawyers, they know best.
As part of a comparative religion course, yes, they do. Requiring that children read the Bible to the exclusion of every other religious text? No, they don't. Period - and it's not even a close call. You've been wrong on every point so far, so I suppose it's no surprise you're wrong still.
Just out of curiosity, could a state require that all children read from the Quran with no other religious texts included?
Because that's how long it took for other groups to wrest power from the Puritan Congregationalists.
Try to answer the question.
Say a local school board is taken over by Muslims. Can they vote that all students must read the Quran and only the Quran?
The Court has repeatedly decided that public schools cannot do this.
What is your source for “the constitution allows Texas to teach the Bible in school.”
Oklahoma just dropped its efforts to do this in the face of multiple lawsuits.
Kidmike is a retarded troll guys, just ignore him. On the subject at hand, I take solace in the fact I’ll be dead and gone within the next 50 years. I suggest the rest of you just enjoy the ride as America continues its gradual decline and appreciate the fact you won’t be around for its eventual collapse. Likely a couple hundred years out.
Not remotely true. The right is fully inline with the Constitution, particularly, the Bill of Rights, which the left has shown time and again, does not support. From censorship regarding the 1st Amendment, to the 2nd Amendment, y'all have constantly attacked both.
I don't agree with this in Texas whatsoever, but you absolutely cannot teach American history without including the study of religion. It simply cannot be done and teach real history.
No one is trolling. Get off my message board if you can’t have a discussion.
Weren’t you just arguing that Texas can teach the Bible? Are you now saying Texas can’t?
They can teach it, yes. I never said it could be mandatory. It would be nice if it was.
I totally agree, except in the case of America. You cannot teach American history without teaching Religion in America. It absolutely is who we are. Every historian knows this.
And you can teach it without reading a single word of any holy text.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights”. I wonder who this creator is? How could we teach the students about him?
Well I am getting yelled at about the 14th amendment applying to the separation of church and state. It doesn’t explicitly say anything about that, but the Supreme Court through other rulings has intimated that it brings the 1st amendment to bear on the states governments. My logic is simply that the Supreme Court could clarify this stance on religion and clear it up.
Trump knows nothing about any religion other than he can use its followers to make him money.
It seems your stance throughout has been that this is perfectly constitutional.
To the contrary. Those words are never mentioned in the Constitution, nor can you find them. It simply states, Congress will make no law respecting an establishment of religion. That does not mean what you believe it does. You clearly missed the second part where the government cannot interfere with the Free Exercise Clause. It's still debated to this very day regarding schools, particularly, private religious schools.
Why do private schools have the right to teach a certain religion, and not others?
Like I stated earlier, I don't agree with Texas, but it's definitely a gray area, and will likely go to the SCOTUS. That said, look at Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists in 1802.
"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God... thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."
The SCOTUS used his words to reinforce the Establishment Clause in the 20th century.
I believe that the separation of church and state is not as extreme as y’all. I think the constitution applies to a state sponsored Christian denomination, it was never meant to exclude Christianity from everyday life. Thats why some government meetings open with blessing, etc.