Trump Just Surrendered to Iran--Pathetic

[Anon1750875978]

He said **** off

This has all the makings for when things go sideways...Trump blames Bibi.

I'm willing to bet Israel didn't have much input and within a year...everyone is back fighting and Trump "washes his hands" of the entire thing.

Between now and then, Trump attacks Cuba...a country he can overwhelm like Venezuela.
The issue might be that Kegseth had so depleted American munitions that the US will have to delay any attacks.
In the meantime...China is plotting.

What a mess.

 

[r_desihawk]

He said **** off

could israel be doing america a favor by trying to save us from what everyone says is a very bad deal ?

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Since when does Trump need anyone’s approval? Half of Congress is sitting in the buggy heat of DC right now watching a UFC fight because Orange Jesus told them to. Many of them in Florsheim shoes that don’t fit.

Don’t disagree, the GOP Congress wouldn’t lift a finger to stop him. But if he did try to take $300B illegally it would get stopped via the court system after dem lawsuits.

Congress has the power of the purse, full stop. Even if the majority of Congress don’t care, it is their responsibility and they should get forced to go on record as supporting sending American dollars to Iran to clean up fatties war mess.

 

[fatpiggy]

WTF are you talking about? The only political position I have ever stated on transgender issues is that I believe biological males should not compete in women’s sports and that fidelity to Title IX should be upheld. That’s it.

Otherwise, I leave the issue to medical professionals. While I do not understand the science behind gender dysphoria, I do know there is broad consensus among medical professionals that sex and gender are not one and the same and that the psychological experience of gender for certain people is much different than what their birth sex is. That’s good enough for me.

In short, I am not going to fill myself with hate toward certain people just because I don’t understand them. That’s stupid. Frankly, of the couple transgender people I have known in real life, all of them would be preferable for company than pieces of sh*t like you. And to be honest, I do not care to know what is so wrong in your life that you have chosen to make yourself this miserable and this obsessed with less than 1% of the population. I do wish you well, though, on your journey to finding peace. I am just not going to engage you further while you’re embarking on this misadventure.

Good luck.

Just so we are clear, there is no broad consensus on gender ideology other than the consensus that it is pseudo science.

The Cass review caused most European countries to change course because the data was so damning.


There is no such thing as gender. There are two sexes, and infinite personalities. That’s what the science says.

 

[Sullivan]

We are sending them loads of cash

Nope. Trump is fixing Obama's mess.

 

[Sullivan]

We know it had a sunset provision but while the JCPOA was in force and the U.S. was party to it, enforcement worked as designed. Iran met its nuclear reduction commitments and accepted intrusive inspections. The breakdown in compliance followed the U.S. exit, which removed Iran's economic incentive to stay in the deal. It was an unwise move to exit the agreement because the enforcement mechanism itself functioned during the period it was given the chance to.

Mattis agreed.

Assessing The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action Iran Deal: Its Provisions, Verification Results and Political Support - CIP

The JCPOA must be properly understood as working before we can attempt to understand why the Trump administration left the deal.

internationalpolicy.org

 

[Billanole.]

This was not the plan. This is however the real world, where things are evolving. But you bitches are gping to cry even if you have to find fake **** to do it over.


Which is why you are a waste of space as a human.

Whiskey is coming in hot, boyz.

 

[Moogy]

OK, retard.

First of all, "biological" males is redundant, you big dummy.

"Male" IS a biological term. There's your first, free lesson.

Secondly, there is no "science behind gender dysphoria." There is no "broad consensus among medical professionals that sex and gender are not one and the same" because there is no science regarding "gender."

"Gender," as anything other than a euphemism for sex, is untestable, unfalsifiable non-science nonsense.

What does the science say about your obsession with trannies?

And what do the trannies you’re absolutely pathologically obsessed with have to do with the situation in Iran?

 

[Moogy]

Nope. Tramp is fixing Obama's mess.

Faking a nuclear emergency and then losing to Iran is an interesting fix. It looks good on you, though.

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Nope. Tramp is fixing Obama's mess.

By sending nearly 300x the amount of money, not taking their nuclear material, and not having observers?

 

[Sullivan]

By sending nearly 300x the amount of money, not taking their nuclear material, and not having observers?

We will give you the benefit of the doubt in recognizing what you posted is B.S.

 

[firegiver]

Nope. Trump is fixing Obama's mess.

Based on what? Trump pulled out of the JCPOA like 7 years ago right? Then Iran, now not having any reasons to keep the agreement Trump broke, enriched uranium. Then Israel got in Trump's ear and convinced him he'd be a hero if he attacked Iran and that it would be easy just like Venezuela. Trump loves to think he's a hero so he went for it, much to JD Vance's apparent push back, and don't forget the Generals who were fired for pushing back.
Anywho, here we are with a tentative deal....
What's fixed?

 

[Sullivan]

Based on what? Trump pulled out of the JCPOA like 7 years ago right? Then Iran, now not having any reasons to keep the agreement Trump broke, enriched uranium. Then Israel got in Trump's ear and convinced him he'd be a hero if he attacked Iran and that it would be easy just like Venezuela. Trump loves to think he's a hero so he went for it, much to JD Vance's apparent push back, and don't forget the Generals who were fired for pushing back.
Anywho, here we are with a tentative deal....
What's fixed?

Change the channel. Then watch and learn.

 

[Meatball Sandwich]

So can we now refocus our attention on Trump being a pedophile and the entire Republican Party being ok with it?

 

[firegiver]

Change the channel. Then watch and learn.

You are one of those people who cannot form their own thoughts and express them? You can't speak for yourself? You want me to go and turn on my TV and put it on Newsmaxx and then just believe what fake journalists tell me? No thanks.

 

[Sullivan]

You are one of those people who cannot form their own thoughts and express them? You can't speak for yourself? You want me to go and turn on my TV and put it on Newsmaxx and then just believe what fake journalists tell me? No thanks.

You are pretty worked up this morning. Too much coffee?

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Just so we are clear, there is no broad consensus on gender ideology other than the consensus that it is pseudo science.

The Cass review caused most European countries to change course because the data was so damning.


There is no such thing as gender. There are two sexes, and infinite personalities. That’s what the science says.

I have no doubt there are conflicting opinions. I’m sure the science evolves like everything else in science does based on new evidence.

The greater point is I simply don’t care. I only worry about sh*t that pertains to me. Medical professionals can hash out transgender issues.

 

[firegiver]

You are pretty worked up this morning. Too much coffee?

Nice try doofus, I'm doing just fine. You seem to be having trouble thinking though.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

You are one of those people who cannot form their own thoughts and express them? You can't speak for yourself? You want me to go and turn on my TV and put it on Newsmaxx and then just believe what fake journalists tell me? No thanks.

First time engaging Sullivan?

Good luck.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

So can we now refocus our attention on Trump being a pedophile and the entire Republican Party being ok with it?

Good point.

I guess if I worshipped a fat-***, tangerine tyrant, rapist, and pedophile, I would probably obsess too about transgenderism every chance I got.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Whiskey is coming in hot, boyz.

FIFY.

We have always known he’s a closet pedophile.

It’s just like when he accuses other people of being emotional. Every accusation is an admission.

 

[AFM22]

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It’s about the same if you account for the inflation Trump has caused.

 

[THE_DEVIL]

 

[Flie_rivals154594]

Let the spin game begin.

That's why the Ministry of Truth Social exists.

 

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[What Would Jesus Do?]

OK, retard.

First of all, "biological" males is redundant, you big dummy.

"Male" IS a biological term. There's your first, free lesson.

Secondly, there is no "science behind gender dysphoria." There is no "broad consensus among medical professionals that sex and gender are not one and the same" because there is no science regarding "gender."

"Gender," as anything other than a euphemism for sex, is untestable, unfalsifiable non-science nonsense.

Word salad. What did that contribute to the conversation?

 

[BlIIlken2]

 

[GDead_Tiger]

Financial Times (@financialtimes.com)

It was supposed to be a campaign of shock-and-awe that began when the US and Israel struck Iran on February 28. But Iran, having fired thousands of missiles and drones across the Middle East, fought to a stalemate. ft.trib.al/XyIVZ7Y

bsky.app

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

[per Gemini - offered for comparison with whatever Trump actually gets]

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) was governed by various "sunset clauses" with different expiration timelines relative to its Adoption Day (October 18, 2015) and Implementation Day (January 16, 2016).

The agreement reached its official Termination Day on October 18, 2025, which was exactly 10 years after Adoption Day.

Key Expiration Timelines​

The agreement featured multiple phases of restrictions that were set to phase out over specific periods:

Restriction/Milestone	Duration	Relative Date/Year
Transition Day	8 years after Adoption Day	October 18, 2023
Termination Day	10 years after Adoption Day	October 18, 2025
Centrifuge/Monitoring Limits	10 years after Implementation Day	January 16, 2026
Enrichment/Stockpile Caps	15 years after Implementation Day	January 16, 2031

Summary of Key Terms​

• 10 Years (2025): Marked the end of the "snapback" mechanism for UN sanctions and the official termination of UN Security Council Resolution 2231.
• 15 Years (2031): Represented the expiration of the primary limitations on the level of uranium enrichment (capped at 3.67%) and the size of Iran's enriched uranium stockpile.

 

[AFM22]

He understood Obama made the deal and he just couldn't have that.

 

[AFM22]

Art of the deal.

 

[baltimorened]

I will wait until we get the official agreement before weighing in.

What I do know is there is no world where Trump has the authority to spend $300B without congressional approval. So let’s see what the terms actually are before rushing to judgement.

what a rational post...wait until we get the official agreement.....but that will take a little of the steam out of the current outrage (by people who don't know the terms of the agreement)

 

[Anon1751457816]

Trump's template: 1. find something to wind up tight. 2. Alert crones to short 3. Unwind 4. Alert crones to go long.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Daniel B. Shapiro, a former American ambassador to Israel, said on social media that “there really is no agreement, other than to negotiate over the HEU stockpile and an enrichment moratorium,” referring to highly enriched uranium.

“Iran knows how to drag out those negotiations, and try to pocket concessions along the way,” he continued. “It is possible that no deal will ever be reached, and very likely that if one is reached, it will be worse than what we could have achieved through diplomacy before the war.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/world/middleeast/nuclear-iran-united-states.html

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

The 300 billion reconstruction fund is what bothers me the most. The war itself since strikes began has cost over 100 billion.

This was so f#cking stupid on so many levels.

Of course, Sean Hannity will refer to Trump’s handling of the war as “masterful” and the MAGA Idiot Brigade will continue taking “victory” laps because, hey, stupid Obama never got Iran to open up the Strait of Hormuz.

Oh, and of course the real issue isn’t that Trump led America into another Trump SNAFU (Situation Normal All F#cked Up). Nope. The issue will undoubtedly be “TDS.”

Rinse and repeat.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

He understood Obama made the deal and he just couldn't have that.

Yep. His ODS led America into another stupid and costly war.

And the MAGA Idiot Brigade will still tout this as another Trump “victory.”

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[RagnarLothbrok]

Nope. Trump is fixing Obama's mess.

^ Imagine actually believing this and literally being this f#cking stupid.

 

[Sullivan]

^ Imagine actually believing this and literally being this f#cking stupid.

^Imagine being so worked up about Trump, that you post non-stop since yesterday:

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