2027 Recruiting Thread
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This one is dollars related. Came back with new $ demands for PSU and we said no. He is another solid prospect, but no different than so many other CB prospects out there.
Coatesville PA OL Maxwell Hiller is now the second ranked overall recruit in the country. A big bump for Terrance Smith of Lansdale, PA also. He plays for Lansdale Catholic and has an offer sheet a mile long. His top 4 is LSU, Tennessee, Auburn and Rutgers.
So they feel they can find an acceptable replacement for the money they want to offer?
We have been recruiting this guy throughout the year, even with a full cb room prior to the decommitments. This one is based on if the kid is willing to leave his home state as that was the hindrance earlier in the process. Terry really likes this prospect.
Boy, a couple of you guys REALLY love James Franklin and really hate Matt Campbell. It’s so weird.
Point two is my point. Well, add to that that the team didn’t really show up for the first three games either.
There are a lot more sensible Penn State fans that realized he wasn’t going to get it done. It’s the same vast majority of fans that are willing to give Campbell a shot at doing what Franklin couldn’t. You like to make believe people are canonizing Campbell when in fact people are just willing to give Campbell the same shot they gave Franklin. He got 12 years to build what he thought was a legit national championship contender and completely **** the bed. If Campbell does the same the vast majority will want him out as well.
Did you notice who is number 20?
I'm not going to go back and look but a poster on here within the last week said. Dean, Taylor and Hall were interchangeable as far as they where concerned and then some star gazer started jumping all over them with one is a top 100 recruit another top 200 and the third top 300.
They look pretty interchangeable on 247 for now.
BTW, based on the average rating per recruit. On 247 PSU is currently 13th. Franklin was keeping PSU in the top 10 with that kind of HS recruiting.
You’re right, I did not see Hall. I said in the beginning here that Dean would end up being the best wr out of the group, but I didn’t think his rating would move up this quick. I thought it would catch up in the fall. If we get two out of Dean, Hall, Taylor and Blum it is a better than most of Franklin’s wr classes. 3 of the 4 would be best in decades. All 4 would be best ever at PSU.
When are Taylor and Hall committing? I imagine if Dean is inclined to flip it will be pretty soon.
An interesting stat would be to analyze how much Campbell's recruits bump up in rankings relative to the average and also look at the reverse. Does he have an eye for hidden/emerging talent? To be fair, I do think Jimmy was good at that. There.....a complement to Jimmy, that will make his jock sniffers happy.
But I think he did get some guys who really blossomed after they committed but still in HS. Wasn't Abdul Carter one of these guys? Barkley maybe although Rutgers first found him so maybe Jimmy doesn't get credit for that. Warren was a great story but I think that was more college development rather than him improving his rating while in HS.
He cancelled his remaining visits so I don't want to count my chickens but we are in the driver's seat.
Hiler is a perfect example of what I've talked about. I certainly don't know the details but it appears that he followed Trautwein to Florida. I assume Trautwein was on this kid for some time and Campbell stepped in with no connections in PA.
I think Smith committed to LSU just a few days after Campbell was hired. It's likely that we lost him because we didn't even have a coach.
I'm suggesting that if you use the same correct analysis of 5 stars that you wish to invest in 3 stars, that you will get better results.
Just pointing out that if CMC is recruiting well....then CJF is right with him. At VT none the less.
Are you seriously blaming Franklin for a DB falling down to give ND the lead? LOL LOL LOL. I guess if we're going there, it's more appropriate to blame his position coach, isn't it?
Hahaha apparently neither did Campbell. He did manage to beat Northern Illinois in overtime.
BWICAC doesn't like to be encumbered by facts. Sanctions....what sanctions? We are!
DBs fall down....Franklin's fault. Interception Franklin's fault. I'm an elite fan, PSU isn't elite....Franklin's fault.
Ohio State is a better program.....Franklin's fault.
Love and respect for Campbell is TBD. You see, he hasn't coached a game here yet. His reputation is good.
Campbell is charged with doing better than Franklin. The AD promised that. That may not be as easy after this season as some here profess.
I don't see anyone here arguing that a change wasn't needed. Only time will tell if the change brings excellence at the highest level.
Denigrating what Franklin did to bring PSU out of the sanctions, doesn't add any accolades to Coach Campbell. He needs to earn them in competition.
As usual, you have the point you want to make and repeat it mindlessly, even when it has nothing to do with what was said by the poster you’re responding to.
What Franklin did to bring Penn State out of the sanctions has nothing to do with how his tenure ended. Watching that UCLA game and putting what had happened in the opening three games I made the comment that it looked like he was coaching to be fired. Seemed like he got what he wanted when it happened. Campbell will have the same leeway from me that I gave to Franklin. What is obvious is that your judgement of Campbell will be more harsh with Campbell than it was with Franklin, for whatever reason.
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Hiller may or may not have followed Trautwein. I’m not sure Penn State would have gotten him with Trautwein still at PSU? As stated previously, Hiller’s younger brother is the number 2 overall basketball recruit in the country for the 2028 class. Rumors are that they were/are a package deal. If so, PSU wasn’t getting the bball brother, so getting Maxwell was highly unlikely. Regardless, Maxwell is the crown jewel of Sumrall’s first recruiting class at Florida. He is a physical freak for his size and is a nasty OL player.
Smith was never committed to LSU. They are the current favorite to land him, but he has not committed yet. There’s been a bit of time to recruit the 6’7” 290 lb HS Jr for PSU, but he does not have PSU in his top four.
I understand that things like that happen to everybody but they've happened to PSU far too often under Franklin. I can't help but to think players are tight and overthinking things in big situations and that's a reflection of their coachng.
The crazy thing is that Max may be at FL for one year. Hid brother is going to get paid by someone, so if they are really a package deal then Max will leave for Bama when they give little bro 3M/yr
I don't expect PSU to get every top recruit from PA but I'd like to think we'd get more than other schools.
Per 247:
#1 Hiler - Florida
#2 Spell - Georgia
#3 Sesay - Likely ND
#4 Smith - Likely LSU
#5 Halter - ND
We did get #6 Montgomery and hopefully we'll get #7 Taylor but it's not a good look to lose out on so many top prospects in your home state. I attribute it to Campbell coming in late with no recruiting connections in the area. Hopefully it gets turned around for next year.
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You are correct. But you seem so negative and skeptical. Sorry, I can't wake up in the morning with that cloud over my head.
Maybe. Or maybe FL already has a plan in place for Colton and that has already been worked out? UF takes their bball seriously as well.