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*hit has officially hit the fan in TNA when a guy like him is requesting his release.
Dave actually went on a dialogue about how AEW can overtake WWE - he knows how to feed his audience.
There's a weird subculture of fan who either wants WWE to bury and end AEW or AEW to overtake and defeat WWE and neither one will happen. Meltzer feeds into it but fans as well. WWE will stay #1 and I can't fathom AEW overtaking them in any way. Freaking Danhausen is more over in pop and wrestling culture right now than anyone in AEW.
I don't want AEW all up in pop culture like that. The more WWE tries to get over in pop culture the worse their product gets. Danhausen? OK. Quality of the WWE tv product has gone down the drain by all reasonable accounts from reasonable people ever since he joined. TV ratings are declining. Attendances are declining.
But Danhausen is over in pop culture. Okay, have fun with that. When's the last time they had a solid 1 month run of Smackdown shows? I'm talking 4 straight weeks of episodes you would rate a 7 out of 10. During the Biden Administration perhaps?
Trying to have mass pop culture success almost always comes with watering down the product trying to do things to appeal to this mythical casual who will drop you on a whim. Happens in all forms of entertainment. I've lost count of how many bands I liked growing up that decided they needed o ge bigger, changed up their music to be more casual friendly, and their music promptly went to *hit. AEW went thru their phase of trying to appeal more to casuals and it's considered by virtually everyone to be the worst time period in company history.
There's plenty of examples of people sticking to their guns of what they do well and not changing up their product to appeal to casuals and it still leads to broader pop culture success, but it's rare because most don't even make an attempt to not change their product for the casuals.
For example, the tv show Breaking Bad. TV ratings stayed fairly steady thru the first three seasons. Ratings average never went down at any one point in time, every season was at worst the same as the previous season, which is hardly the norm, most shows peak in season 1. Viewership saw an uptick in season 4. Saw another, and bigger, uptick in the first half of season 5, the final season. Then ratings skyrocketed for the second half of season 5.
Nothing Vince Gilligan did to the on-screen product was ever changed to specifically pull in more fans. He had a vision for day 1 of what he wanted the show to be. He stuck to the visit until the series finale. He never made changes because "bUt WhAt AbOuT ThE CaSuAlS?!" He stuck to his vision of a high-quality tv show and people watched it because it was a high quality tv show.
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This worked because Bret had every reason to be upset over what was happening to him at this point.
But the AEW product was never designed to overtake WWE in terms of popularity. So it's a fairly pointless discussion to talk about how they could. No one but idiots actually ever thought it would or will. I'm not even talking about what the weekly tv product is. I'm talking about how the company is built and structured.
AEW is a wrestling company whose product is wrestling. They serve as a specialist in wrestling in the broader entertainment industry. Everything they do is to serve the business of wrestling. Until Tony Khan decides he wants AEW to be more than just a wrestling company, and until WWE suffers a catastrophic collapse in the business, AEW will always have a more limited reach compared to WWE no mater how good of a product it is.
WWE is an entertainment company who happens to have wrestling as it's chief product. While everything they do may have wrestling ties to it, not everything they do is focused on the wrestling.
That's not to say AEW can't be and isn't successful, it's just not going to be as massive as WWE.
It's like comparing places that sell paint. You can go to Walmart to buy paint. Walmart will always be the biggest store in the US that happens to sell paint. But it's not anywhere remotely close to being a paint store. The paint section isn't even the biggest section in their home improvement department, which is generally not even one of the largest departments in each Walmart store. This is what Endeavor (which owns TKO) is to the wrestling business - a place that has a lot of everything but specializes in nothing specifically. WWE is big but it's not even Endeavor's biggest business that they own.
Then there's Lowe's and Home Depot. They sell paint, and a lot of it. But it's not a paint store. It's a home improvement store that sells paint but does not specialize in paint or any one specific segment of the home improvement industry. They'll do more paint business per square foot of retail space than Walmart but they'll never match the overall business that Walmart does. Though not the best apples-to-apples comparison, but this is what WWE is to the wrestling business.
Then there is Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore. They specialize in paint (and stain) and paint supplies, but primarily paint. Their entire business model is they specialize in paint and everything they do is to serve the business of paint. If you're going to either of those stores, it's because of paint. I doubt there is any other store in the US that sells more paint per square foot of retail space than these two, but they are never going to do as much business as a place like Lowe's or Home Depot. This is what AEW is to the wrestling business.
AEW is a wrestling company whose product is wrestling. They serve as a specialist in wrestling in the broader entertainment industry. Everything they do is to serve the business of wrestling. Until Tony Khan decides he wants AEW to be more than just a wrestling company, and until WWE suffers a catastrophic collapse in the business, AEW will always have a more limited reach compared to WWE no mater how good of a product it is.
WWE is an entertainment company who happens to have wrestling as it's chief product. While everything they do may have wrestling ties to it, not everything they do is focused on the wrestling.
That's not to say AEW can't be and isn't successful, it's just not going to be as massive as WWE.
It's like comparing places that sell paint. You can go to Walmart to buy paint. Walmart will always be the biggest store in the US that happens to sell paint. But it's not anywhere remotely close to being a paint store. The paint section isn't even the biggest section in their home improvement department, which is generally not even one of the largest departments in each Walmart store. This is what Endeavor (which owns TKO) is to the wrestling business - a place that has a lot of everything but specializes in nothing specifically. WWE is big but it's not even Endeavor's biggest business that they own.
Then there's Lowe's and Home Depot. They sell paint, and a lot of it. But it's not a paint store. It's a home improvement store that sells paint but does not specialize in paint or any one specific segment of the home improvement industry. They'll do more paint business per square foot of retail space than Walmart but they'll never match the overall business that Walmart does. Though not the best apples-to-apples comparison, but this is what WWE is to the wrestling business.
Then there is Sherwin Williams and Benjamin Moore. They specialize in paint (and stain) and paint supplies, but primarily paint. Their entire business model is they specialize in paint and everything they do is to serve the business of paint. If you're going to either of those stores, it's because of paint. I doubt there is any other store in the US that sells more paint per square foot of retail space than these two, but they are never going to do as much business as a place like Lowe's or Home Depot. This is what AEW is to the wrestling business.
The Cathausen Effect
Mrs. Thompson might be onto something here.....
I wouldn't mind Danhausen pronouncing a curse on the evil blue devils and create a voodoo doll of Todd Golden for the upcoming season - and a blessing for Kentucky to win #9. Let's see how it would shake out ? haha ! For those amongst us inclined to lean towards superstition, voodoo magick, and karmic exaplanations for the turnaround.... here you go !
You've been CATHOUSENED !
Mrs. Thompson might be onto something here.....
I wouldn't mind Danhausen pronouncing a curse on the evil blue devils and create a voodoo doll of Todd Golden for the upcoming season - and a blessing for Kentucky to win #9. Let's see how it would shake out ? haha ! For those amongst us inclined to lean towards superstition, voodoo magick, and karmic exaplanations for the turnaround.... here you go !
You've been CATHOUSENED !
Kentucky athletics results since the shirt got announced...
The baseball team lost 2 out of 3 games to West Virginia to get eliminated after only four games in the NCAA Baseball tournament.
The one men's golfer who made the NCAA Tournament fell down the standings after each round to finish 47th. The team did not qualify for the tournament.
Women's golf finished 23rd out of 30 teams
Somehow the track national championship hasn't even started yet, ridiculous. It's June 8th. The NBA plauoffs could end before this ends and that tournament is dragged out way too long. Get it together, NCAA.
To be fair we beat wv once and lost twice in close games.
meanwhile wv mashed cal poly in the super regional like 29-3?
They never played Cal Poly. Certainly Never beat anyone by any score remotely close to 29-3 for the entire season.
The first three years of Dynamite are on Tubi, which means Tubing hosts but WWE (Evolve) and AEW content now. Guess WWE wasn't able to con FOX into exclusivity on Tubi
Re read my post - wv best cal poly 29-3 combined in the super regional
Buddy, you took one sentence I wrote and turned it into something Lincoln would have recited if he were high on mushrooms lol.
You've developed a hatred of Danhausen simply because he's succeeding and TK didn't understand what to do with him. None of us thought he'd have this much success. You can't turn WWE as a pop culture thing into a negative. That's how companies grow and it's why AEW will never overtake them. I don't know why Meltzer even entertains those thoughts. He's their therapist when they struggle and when they begin to do better he starts saying they'll beat SD and overtake WWE. We know that's not happening. It's like trying to say a retail company with a few dozen stores across the US could one day overtake Walmart.
Here's a list of WWE talent more over/has more aura than anyone in AEW:
Brock, Bron, Gable, Charlotte, Punk, Cody, Danhausen, Dom, Drew, IYO, Jey, Owens, Knight, Liv, Paul, Oba, Heyman, Penta, Randy, Truth, Reed, Rey, Rhea, Roman, Sami, Rollins, Vaquer, Tiffany, Trick
It is what it is. WWE knows how to make stars, even when they're cooled off. Hell, Oba alone is already way more over with way more aura than anyone in AEW and he'll never be awarded with a five star match.
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I've never liked Danhausen.
And I don't care if Joe Schmoe is more over than anyone in AEW. The whole entire roster including all the jabornis in Evolve could be more over than anyone in AEW for all I care. At the end of the day, the WWE product is vile, boring trash that cozies up with the orange man in charge while being involved in multiple lawsuits involving sex crimes.
I can turn getting more over into pop culture into a negative if I want. It's resulted in shows being overrun with commercials and stories butchered because they got to add a D list celebrity into it. You think Jellyroll and Pat McAfee inserting themselves into the main event of Wrestlemania while surrounding it with 60 minutes of commercials on show day made for a better story and match than Rock vs. Stone Cold?
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To make professional wrestling, a pastime that ought to bring people enjoyment, a political gatekeeping exercise is disgusting. Are you telling me that someone can't be a fan of WWE if they are left of center or that someone right of center (like me) should avoid watching AEW, so as to conform to whatever lines you've drawn for us simpletons? Gimme a break, dude.
People that use politics in the way that you do really do more harm than good. Every human in the country is trying to figure things out --- none of us are 100% correct. A little humility goes a long way on these topics.
You can watch whatever you want. Watch CZW if you want. I don't care.
But what about that Costco guy or whatever that gimmick is with him and the kid?
Quit projecting yourself as some sort of victim to justify your tribalism.
Your posts this week make you sound like a whiny child.
But if you watch Wwe you’ll go on your little rant you and the Reddit folks typically do.
You really want to put a meaningless AEW preshow match on the same level as a Wrestlemania main event? Damn, AJ Styles was right - Wrestlemania isn't as special as it used to be.
This was a huge worm turner for me. Nobody wants to see an annoying, overexposed sports podcast host and a failed white rapper turned
y country singer anywhere near a Mania main event.I thought this year’s Mania was the worst in ages. The build sucked. Adding celebrities made it worse. Being bombarded for 2 nights of constant, shameless capitalism-ing pissed me off the point I am done with the weekly TV and steal the PLEs very intentionally.
Other worm turners for me in the last 18 months include:
12-15 minutes between every match on PLEs
F’n commercials during matches, sponsored everything, various attempts to extort more cash from cash strapped fans (Club WWE anyone?)
Constantly bragging about record gates while exploited fans clap like seals
Hiring Brainworms Bobby’s niece under “political pressure.”
TKO as a whole
AEW ain’t perfect, and they still do some silly indie stuff I don’t care for. But I don’t feel dirty after watching it and generally enjoy watching wrestling on the wrestling show.