Scott Pelley out at CBS
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sounds as if he does have a contract.
None of us knows the basis for the "for cause" firing. I would imagine it will come out in court...Pelley will sue, I assume.
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The new CBS News Editor & Chief Bari Weiss pulls the 60 minutes investigative story “Inside Cecot” only a day and a half before it was supposed to air because they were allegedly told to by the Trump Administration.
Both things can be true
One can acknowledge that going after your bosses in such a public fashion is unlikely to end well.
And
There’s a reason Pelley spoke up, and it’s because the institution of 60 Minutes is being gutted to maintain favor with the child in the White House.
Focusing on the former…”It’s a private business, blah blah…” misses the bigger and more important point entirely.
One can acknowledge that going after your bosses in such a public fashion is unlikely to end well.
And
There’s a reason Pelley spoke up, and it’s because the institution of 60 Minutes is being gutted to maintain favor with the child in the White House.
Focusing on the former…”It’s a private business, blah blah…” misses the bigger and more important point entirely.
I'm not a good person to comment on 60 minutes. ..don't watch it for reasons I have already posted. They're dishonest in their editing..I experienced it and obviously they did it with the Kamala interview. Do it a couple of times and it makes you wonder how often they do/have done it.
Selective editing is understandable...they only have so much time, but changing the basis of a interviewees answer is or at least should be unacceptable.
I would go too far yet, who knows maybe they'll make it better..or maybe Pelley will take his entire team to abc
why not..he's out at CBS, someone else might like 60 minutes.Pelley, again?
You know, Pelley is putting a lot of emphasis on this idea of being censored or being forced to use date that is unverified...I accept his statements as he knows what he has been instructed better than I do.
But, I was thinking, aren't there a large numbers of newscasters at CBS? They all work for the same head of news, I assume, wouldn' t they be instructed with the same direction? None of them has, so far, backed up Pelley's accusations and I doubt if they would be prepared to put out erroneous news just to keep their jobs....just food for thought. But I accept that this will likely not be the end of the furor at CBS. There's more to come out. Both sides will likely attempt to put their positions in front of the viewers.
You are wrong.
Cecilia Vega Blasts CBS After Firing From '60 Minutes'
Vega said that the show has experienced "censorship, both imposed and self-driven."
deadline.com
60 Minutes journalist decries ‘spread of corporate meddling and editorial fear’ at CBS News
Sharyn Alfonsi, whose report on Cecot prison was pulled by Bari Weiss, admits uncertainty over her future at network
www.theguardian.com
Ex-60 Minutes producer Bill Owens says bosses discouraged him from covering Gaza and Trump
Show’s leader, who resigned in April, says he was also pressured to apologize for edit of Kamala Harris interview
www.theguardian.com
What you fail to understand is that behind his wise litigator act Mr Anteaters is MAGA thru and thru.
Ned, you put a lot of stock into your significant lived experience as well as your work on the Hill in particular. Are you telling me, that in all of the time you were in the military and working with politicians, that you didn't constantly see people doing things they knew were wrong because they didn't want to be fired? I see people doing the wrong thing on a weekly basis and I'm "only" 38. It's a big ask for someone to willing forfeit their livelihood out of a since of honor (especially when people on message boards will then say "they shouldn't have mouthed off to their boss".
Did you see a lot of people telling their commanding officer in the military that they were making mistakes?
I've picked up on that but he does it slyly in hopes that it won't be picked up on, but I see it.
Exactly. Pay his contract. Take him off air. He has no right to airtime.
Then you control him for the length of the contract. Enforce his non-compete which is probably at least an extra year.
And you have no leaks of bad info and nasty discovery.
Actually not, but you're certainly not the first one to be so fixated on the label.
it's a historically great show, it's somebody else's property, and pelley will be fine.
The Vegas Golden Knights/Bruce Cassidy playbook.
My working assumption has been that this is a without cause term (which I assume triggers buyouts coupled with noncompetes) rather than for cause. I agree that if this is their version of for cause, it's idiotic based on the public info.
For the umpteenth time, I'm concerned about the show, not Pelley specifically, though he was an excellent correspondent. I understand why he was fired but it never should have come to that. They cruelly fired the Executive producer, her assistant and two of their best correspondents all in one day last Thursday for no reason. So I also understand why he went ballistic and let them have it...someone needed to be brave enough to speak truth to power even if it cost them their jobs.
We'll just add him to the ever-growing list of Trump victims who hurt his feelings, because that's all that matters in journalism.
Yep, if he said what is reported he said, that is nowhere near for cause.
Plus he had some leverage over the years and I assume the for cause standard in his contract is defined and pretty favorable for him.
I know that, but you don't own the show. it's as simple as that. owners can be cruel. so can everybody in life. You don't like it and i dont either. If i had a nickel for every show I liked at one point or another that jumped the shark, I'd be a rich man, but I just don't lose any sleep over that
All I'm saying is that it's just nice that pelley will not land with a thud, whether due to a buyout or a new job.
60 Minutes now exists in name only. Pelley was, to say the least, blunt, but he was right. Weiss and that idiot she hired to run 60 Minutes are completely unqualified in addition to being MAGA toadies.
So shocking that you would say this.
I think you find it shocking that someone cares about Americans.
And that makes me right.
Tom, get over it. Trump is your president. You can hate him all you want. Whine, complain, *****......
We'll see. I think Pritzker's chances are as good as anyone else's out there. Kamala? No. Hell no. Newsom? No. He's too much of a lightning rod at this point. Buttigieg? No. Too many Americans are unprepared to vote for a gay president. Shapiro? No. Wholly unexciting. And there is NO Republican who appears to be a viable presidential candidate in 2028. Rubio comes the closest, but he know has the stank of Cheeto on him.
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LOL.. Making fun of you is not having a temper tantrum.
The democratic party.. Where hate is a value.
I'm wondering why you're avoiding the bigger concern that our government is actively involved in our media programming? Yes, bosses can be cruel but how many bosses are installed by a media conglomerate more interested in pleasing a president than they are about free speech? I don't get hand-waving it away by acting like this is a nothingburger when it's clearly about government control of our airwaves. This is an unprecedented assault on our media to please one historically unpopular madman. That's not nothing.
Live look at nox: "Leave trump-daddy alone!!"
That's you crying because Trump won.
i'm not avoiding it all, though: (i) I think there are enough outlets that suppression is well nigh impossible as a practical matter - truth is like running water and always finds a way out, so i kind of laugh at the people who think they can actually suppress; (ii) the G has quite literally run media operations such as NPR/VOA, which I'm perfectly fine with, viewpoints notwithstanding, and (iii) I take comfort in the fact that this is hardly the first time the g has engaged in media suppression/progamming of external outlets (covid cough social media platform threats cough cough), and yet messaging gets out.
Honestly, I think the primary distinction between me and a majority of people on this board -- right and left -- is simply that I believe, quite firmly, that the sky is not in fact falling.
Everything is just awful! THE MAN is keeping these fine men DOWN. They are VICTIMS to a corrupt system where TRUMP himself is stealing their paychecks....
I'll start with the last question....absolutely, all the time. Every commander I ever served with invited opposing comments. It was part of the culture. In my experience, we had a concept of debate until a decision is made by the commander. But after the decicion is made execute as if it were your idea.
In my civilian job, I never asked or accepted anyone to do something that was wrong. In fact the only instance in my 20 years was one time when my CFO was spending money that I didn't think was appropriate. I "complained" to my superior an investigation was held and the CFO was removed. I would have fired him myself, but in my company financial people worked for the finance organization rather than line president. It was felt that by keeping this type reporting function the financial people could retain independence from line officials who might want to financially finagle
Now as to people not following their own rules...look at represntatives...they had a rule, maybe still do, not to accept outside gratuities like dinners. Some of the most outspoken supporters of the rule were the ones with "alligator arms" when the check came after dinner.
I'm not a holier than thou person. I pushed the rules of the House and Senate to get what I wanted. Nothing illegal, but rules are just that, rules. Sometimes I won and sometimes I lost. That's a reason I don't get as upset as some of you guys about trump pushing things. In my career, that's how we worked. You pushed as far as you could until some higher "being" said "NO". The CEO I reported to would only accept "no" when the decision could go no further. I could tell you a story about EXIM bank that was "closed" to loans to a country we wanted to do business but required an EXIM loan. We got the loan - and it got paid back - but it was a circuitous task that went all the way to the Presdent. I can't tell you the number of times along the way we were told "no"
I don't understand where you have gotten the information that the government is actively involved in media programming.
Now there was a time when the government was actively working to keep information/data out of social media, but I haven't seen any reports where this administration is involved in programming. I have a hard time seeing the FCC determining where America's got talent fits on the schedule or what the hosts can or cannot say.
Now if you're talking about the media merger, you might have a point. But that's far from being involved in programming.
I don't know how much more evidence you need but it's obvious you're just being a contrarian and only interested in hearing your own thoughts.
The "Ax List": During casual phone conversations, Ellison and White House officials reportedly discussed axing CNN hosts considered critical of Trump, including Erin Burnett and Brianna Keilar, alongside potential replacements.
Broader Shake-up: These discussions also reportedly included proposals to air CBS News programming (like 60 Minutes) on CNN. Trump publicly stated his preference for new ownership, calling it "imperative" that CNN be sold.
Larry Ellison discussed axing CNN hosts with White House in takeover bid talks
Exclusive: Senior officials indicated favorability toward Paramount Skydance acquiring Warner Bros Discovery
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Trump is remaking the US media in his own image – and smashing accountability with it
Continuing his war against what he calls “fake news”, the US president is hobbling journalists and media outlets he considers to be hostile to him.
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