Long time netizens of this board: What do you think of the new people?

What do you think of the new people?


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GesterHawk

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you call them lickspittles, but a lot of people, me included, just couldn't pull a lever for Harris. Still can't see her as president.

Trump is a bombastic, narcissist, who seems to revel in chaos...we saw that in his first term, and yet the majority of voters, many of whom are blue collar workers, Hispanics, people of color, voted for him. He ran on a platform that appealed to more voters, in spite of the fact that he was "thrown out" of office after just 1 term. So you don't like Trump, lots of people don't and for sure his administrations have divided the country. But maybe, just maybe, given all that democrats should take an introspective look at their candidates and policies as opposed to being just anti trump.
He ran on being a white man.
The Democrats did not run a white man against him.

Trump has still never beaten a man.
 

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All legitimate. The problem is that there was literally ONE person who ruined it for everyone. it is the mcgibs guy. Most other people who I do not like at all at least aren't psychopaths who stalk and harass the guy running/owning the site, and his wife. We were told that once that situation corrects itself our own board will be reopened. If that happens in the near future, we will all leave and I think leave this place better than we found it. But, since we will likely be here at least a little while we unpacked our bags and hung some new art on the walls. If you do not like it you can put us all on ignore and you will never see our threads or posts, which is nice.
You should probably let people form their own opinions before you start making up lies. I can and have at least admitted that I would have been myself but I also would have banned 50+% of the people that came over here. Which is basically the reason this all happened. The mod let certain posters do whatever they wanted. I called him out on it and he lied to me multiple times and I never once harassed his wife.
now tell them all about how 10 -15 posters harassed me and my family members every time I posted something. I’m sure they would like to hear that side of the story.
maybe share how @Torbee mentioned my toddler should be in war and that he would drown looking up at the sky when it was raining.
 
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GesterHawk

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You should probably let people form their own opinions before you start making up lies. I can and have at least admitted that I would have been myself but I also would have banned 50+% of the people that came over here. Which is basically the reason this all happened. The mod let certain posters do whatever they wanted. I called him out on it and he lied to me multiple times and I never once harassed his wife.
now tell them all about how 10 -15 posters harassed me and my family members every time I posted something. I’m sure they would like to hear that side of the story.
maybe share how @Torbee mentioned my toddler should be in war and that he would drown looking up at the sky when it was raining.
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Mcgibbs

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Right, but that mcgibs guy is here now. So the problem, which was apparently so bad, almost an entire board needed to flee ... is now this board's potential problem. And if you do leave, he may be here after.

Also, you suggest putting how many people on ignore to fix a problem? I don't have anything near a count, but it seems like maybe over 20, at least, that have migrated here from your former board. But you fled from 1 guy ... why couldn't he just be put on ignore, and you guys continue to post there? If the ignore feature was the answer, this situation wouldn't exist in the first place.

Again, the general political outlook you guys bring is more than welcome. It's not as if you brought a bunch of ICE agents looking to crack skulls in a sleepy suburban town. It's just the overwhelming nature of it all, and the lack of "respect" paid to walking into a "new place."
I am and I’m sure you can clearly see the hatred because I’m not in their clique. They can’t accept someone being different than them and they are clueless to it.
 

baltimorened

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Then we can all surely agree that Trump is in fact a sexual predator, yes?
since you asked, here's what I know about trump as a sexual predator...he was found liable for sexual assault of Jean Carroll. So that makes him a sexual abuser. Can't be any debate about that as long as the decicion stands.

I also know he has been accused of sexual assault in the Epstein case. But supposedly that was investigated and no charges have been filed.

Beyond that point I have no idea of trump's sexual life. And to be honest, it is not something that I have paid much attention to.
 

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since you asked, here's what I know about trump as a sexual predator...he was found liable for sexual assault of Jean Carroll. So that makes him a sexual abuser. Can't be any debate about that
Perfect! Thanks for responding.
 

baltimorened

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There are probably 50 of us here. One post getting 5 likes is hardly group think. What is group think are the magats worshipping trump and the MSNBC crowd in the other direction. For a self-proclaimed analytical middle of the road guy, you jump to a lot of conclusions.
not sure which conclusion I have jumped to, especially a lot. But, I've been corrected before.

Insofar as my groupthink comment. I have been on this board for a while and another before this. Since the "migration" there have been more similar comments - not just likes - from the group than either this or the other board. Now, as someone pointed out the new group is more anti trump than pro and that might well be the reason. But, it just seems to me that there is not a lot of pushback from any of the new guys on the comments of the other posters. Now, admittedly, I haven't done a count, and don't intend to, but if you can point out the error of my ways, I certainly will pay attention.
 

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did I pass??

to save time, I also believe Biden won in 2020....had to, he was president for 4 years.
There was nothing to pass. Just checking on how much you're like both sides bins from our old board. Similarities are strong, which means we're gonna get along great :)
 
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not sure which conclusion I have jumped to, especially a lot. But, I've been corrected before.

Insofar as my groupthink comment. I have been on this board for a while and another before this. Since the "migration" there have been more similar comments - not just likes - from the group than either this or the other board. Now, as someone pointed out the new group is more anti trump than pro and that might well be the reason. But, it just seems to me that there is not a lot of pushback from any of the new guys on the comments of the other posters. Now, admittedly, I haven't done a count, and don't intend to, but if you can point out the error of my ways, I certainly will pay attention.
Have your read your post? It is full of hasty generalizations and logical fallacies of the undistributed middle.
 
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baltimorened

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Have your read your post? It is full of hasty generalizations and logical fallacies of the undistributed middle.
of course is general, as I said, I haven't counted the posts, and I don't intend to. But just so we get a long, whenever I come across as being unfair or too general just point it out. I'm more than willing to accept constructive criticism. I know I'm not always right, and am equally certain I'm not always wrong either.
 

baltimorened

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So Ned’s a dude that can form his own thoughts and ideas? Sounds like a cool dude.
it's only been a couple of days with the new guys and I can tell already that there's not a lot of that going on.

I guess schools these days don't teach critical thinking any more.

But, in fairness, it's only been a couple of days. I don't want to jump to conclusions too soon
 
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it's only been a couple of days with the new guys and I can tell already that there's not a lot of that going on.

I guess schools these days don't teach critical thinking any more.

But, in fairness, it's only been a couple of days. I don't want to jump to conclusions too soon
Or, you haven’t part of the debate for years and rather than seeing how the sausage was made you are seeing conclusions.
 
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Or, you haven’t part of the debate for years and rather than seeing how the sausage was made you are seeing conclusions.
I really don't need to see the sausage made...and I accept the conclusions as the specific belief of the person with the conclusion. . But, the difference is that sometimes, not all, my conclusions are different that those who made their own. I see things through the filter of my education and my life experiences, just as everybody else does. In most, or at least many, circumstances, reasonable people will try to figure out where the other person's conclusions come from, because it's just possible that his/hers conclusions are more correct than their own. As I have posted many times...I know I'm not always right, but I also know I'm not always wrong. It's entirely possible, and on some topics, likely, somebody knows more than I do. But the opposite of that is that I might just be more knowledgeable about a specific topic than another.

It seems to me, without empirical evidence, that there are many who only accept that their conclusions are correct and that everybody else is wrong. I've been around longer than most on here, and I've yet to run across the individual who is always right. He might be out there, but I haven't met him yet.
 
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I really don't need to see the sausage made...and I accept the conclusions as the specific belief of the person with the conclusion. . But, the difference is that sometimes, not all, my conclusions are different that those who made their own. I see things through the filter of my education and my life experiences, just as everybody else does. In most, or at least many, circumstances, reasonable people will try to figure out where the other person's conclusions come from, because it's just possible that his/hers conclusions are more correct than their own. As I have posted many times...I know I'm not always right, but I also know I'm not always wrong. It's entirely possible, and on some topics, likely, somebody knows more than I do. But the opposite of that is that I might just be more knowledgeable about a specific topic than another.

It seems to me, without empirical evidence, that there are many who only accept that their conclusions are correct and that everybody else is wrong. I've been around longer than most on here, and I've yet to run across the individual who is always right. He might be out there, but I haven't met him yet.
I will say this, there are a few of us here on the far left who I feel the same way about, as well as the far right. Truth holders in their own minds. I feel like most of us, like most of society, are somewhere in the middle of the ends of the spectrum. I think you are attributing truthholder status too broadly. If we are here long enough, that should become self evident.
 
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I really don't need to see the sausage made...and I accept the conclusions as the specific belief of the person with the conclusion. . But, the difference is that sometimes, not all, my conclusions are different that those who made their own. I see things through the filter of my education and my life experiences, just as everybody else does. In most, or at least many, circumstances, reasonable people will try to figure out where the other person's conclusions come from, because it's just possible that his/hers conclusions are more correct than their own. As I have posted many times...I know I'm not always right, but I also know I'm not always wrong. It's entirely possible, and on some topics, likely, somebody knows more than I do. But the opposite of that is that I might just be more knowledgeable about a specific topic than another.

It seems to me, without empirical evidence, that there are many who only accept that their conclusions are correct and that everybody else is wrong. I've been around longer than most on here, and I've yet to run across the individual who is always right. He might be out there, but I haven't met him yet.
Also, I might have missed it but I don’t seem to see a response to my question: As a retired vet, what do you think of what he’s done with NATO and Ukraine?
 
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baltimorened

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Also, I might have missed it but I don’t seem to see a response to my question: As a retired vet, what do you think of what he’s done with NATO and Ukraine?
Old-timers have seen me post this before....I represented the US at NATO twice - once when I worked in Army Aviation R&D in the Pentagon and then later when I worked for a defense company as member of the NIAG (NATO Industrial Advisory Group).

I have probably a little different perspective than most..But in a nutshell, NATO countries have been using the US as the bank for decades. There is a common funding requirement that covers basic expenses, overhead and then of course the direct funding for defense budgets. The US pays the highest % of this common budget - 16% - and one of the highest, if not the highest % of GDP for direct funding, and bears the largest -2/3 - of the alliance's military capacity. . There are also some more expenses for shared R&D, studies and the like. In my experience NATO nations are all for shared excursions, studies, R&D, but when you get to the bottom line who pays, the shares change and everyone looks to the US. IMO, the US has been played for suckers for decades....but only because we felt in was in our best interests to put ourselves in that situation. But, all in all, no one can make a case that the US doesn't pay more than it's fair share

I'm all in favor of pushing our allies to live up to their individual state's defense funding commitments, and IMO they need to step up with some additional capacity. After all it is their defense at stake.

Now having said that, our president could, and should, handle his criticisms with a little more panache. Sticking fingers in our allies eyes is not the best way forward IMO

I've been out of the game for going on 20 years now, so my thoughts on Ukraine are not better or worse than anybody else that reads the news or watches TV. Couple of my thoughts though...once again Russia has been shown to be not the "giant bear" that have been made out to be: the war has changed the concept of operations in that drones have reshaped the battlefield: the US has not yet learned to fight war as a war - we watch as Russia attacks Ukrainian cities but limit how Ukraine uses the weapons we give them: I like the concept of the US selling weapons to European nations and letting them provide to Ukranians.

I don't know if the Ukranian blurb answers your question. I'm a firm proponent of the Powell doctine..if you're going to fight a war...fight the war...feel the same way about Iran, although you didn't ask.
 
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Clearly some people here who absolutely must have the last word no matter what and will continue arguing the same things endlessly due to stubbornness. Quite a few of us Iowa posters are like that as well...looks like we're gonna get along great. :)
 
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