I am saying his overall record.
Did anyone sign up for, or would anyone have believed we were on the right track if, Rhule had an overall losing record against conference opponents after his 4th season at NU.
What are some attainable names Troy Dannen has
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Did anyone sign up for, or would anyone have believed we were on the right track if, Rhule had an overall losing record against conference opponents after his 4th season at NU.
What is Dannen's biggest career achievement? That he sat on a bunch NCAA committees(because they are known for getting things done) representing the American Conference(big whoop)? Or that he spearheaded Tulane's "justice for all" DEI inititive?
Hes a career academic administrator who has never held a position where he isnt spending someone else's money. He spends his days at NU being a cheerleader and putting his foot in his mouth, instead of overseeing his head football coach who cant seem to win games, decide his QB philosophy, or keep from shuffling coaches and coordinators annually.
He gets a pass on it the first couple of years. Not so much now.
There has been no point in MRs tenure where we have been less talented than UCLA, Rutgers, NW, Minn, Purdue, Maryland, Mich St, Washington, Wisconsin, etc....if we want to debate a few specific teams, I listed enough, just shuffle em out. The point is:
Why would they first few years get a pass? Rhule has acquired this record through poor decisions and hires, more than talent issues. Just beat the teams you are more talented than, and we should not have this kind if lopsided conference record in year 4.
Before Nebraska?
He hired the best coach Tulane has ever had, who led them to a top 10 finish, which is unheard of for them.
He hired Jedd Fisch at Washington who led them to a 9 win season in only their second season in the B1G.
I don't really care about anything else other than track record of hiring football coaches. The money the university has/spends is basically not real to me.
You should care about the extension that wasn’t needed when he hadn’t accomplished enough to have earn it.
No Brainer..
I am not going to completely dismiss him hitting on both coaches.....Georgia Southern was 1 season into FBS ball when Fritz was there. Leaving for Tulane, who had just built a new stadium and practice facility in 2014, for triple the HC salary and ditto for staff, seems like a no brainer.
Then Jeff frisch straight up went on record saying that he didnt want to leave Arizona, but they required alumni approval for any salary increases, which he wasnt getting
"Fisch told Wasserman the combination of him not getting an extension yet and the amount of money Washington was going to make available for his assistants–”my assistant coach pool (at Arizona) would still have been $3.5 million less than what it is now”—were the biggest factors in him choosing to leave the UA."
- My point - He was able to hire 2 good coaches, when he had the money to double, triple, etc. their salaries and staff pools.......but do you really feel like Dannen has some massive football coach rolodex? Do you really think the guy who comes out and says he is just dumbfounded that other schools upped their NIL dollars, is going to close on some major stakes negotiated hire, where we CANT triple someone's salary?
Cuz I dont.
Yeah, all valid points. Dannen and Rhule have VERY similar looking resumes. Some seemingly successful stops at a couple lower level schools that look decent at first glance. But then you start to peel back the layers to look at them closer and realize they weren't all that great. Both did an okay job playing in the minor leagues. That, in no way shape or form qualifies either of them for turning around a Titanic like Nebraska.
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Top ten in the AAC? Yippie. I'd rather have the guy who hired #1. Matt Rhule had a couple okay years at Temple, too.
He took over a team that had just played in the CFP. Matt Rhule had one okay year at Baylor, too.
Dude, you're literally touting the Matt Rhule of ADs. Dannen may actually have accomplished less.
No, top 10 in the country, where they went 3-1 against ranked opponents.
I'd rather have #1 too but doubt Kirby Smart is available.
Fritz is head and shoulders above Rhule no matter how you slice it.
Hardly, Washington had 1 returning starter from that CFP team.
I'm not buying that the extension is 100% on Dannen, maybe not even 50%.
He has a good track record with hiring coaches, and I bet is in no small part responsible for getting Holg, Geep, and Aurich in the building.
I see what you're saying, and I don't necessarily disagree.
The problem is, I don't think we're in a position where we're going to poach a coach from a successful P4 team, and we're going to have to identify a talent at a lower level.
I'm not debating that. At all. I'm simply illustrating that a little one off, surface level, possible lightning in a bottle success does not necessarily a successful AD or Coach at Nebraska make. Just seems odd to me that you're soooo out on Rhule yet soooo in on Dannen when they're very similar in their accomplishments, or lack thereof.
Well, now you're saying that Dannen might be just fine as someone to find Rhule's replacement, which I don't necessarily disagree with. Maybe that's been your point the whole time, if so I missed it.
I still can't tout Dannen as some great AD. That Rhule extension, which was worse than the Rhule hiring, happened on his watch. No telling how much of that was on him. But it can't just be ignored. Unless we find out that he fought like hell against it and lost.
It's this right here.
My personal blackpill is that there are issues embedded in the university that can't be fixed by the AD.
No, I don't necessarily have proof of that claim, what I do know is that through 2+ decades we have trotted a lame duck product on the field that has looked almost the same through multiple HC/AD combos.
I don't trust that we can necessarily do better than Dannen at this juncture, but I do believe we could do much worse and hire another "Nebraska nice" type.
We’ve been lame ducks ever since Shawn Eichorst fired Bo Pelini and that’s been 11 years not 2+ decades.
You're the last person to be picking apart semantics. The 2010s and 2020s are separate decades.
Regardless, having Texas Tech, Kansas, Ohio State and Wisconsin hang upwards of 60 didn't feel good and was pretty lame, even if its better than what we have now.
There existed a certainty that we were going to get crushed by hard-nosed teams starting as early as 2002.
Remind you we’ve had 8 losing season since 2015.
10 total since 2004.
That is what I”m referring to to as lame duck., those are your words not mine and I agree we’ve been lame ducks since Pelini era.
We've had 0 conference championship wins this century.
For as much as we like to pound the table about Iowa being completely irrelevant and lame, even they can say they've done better.
Witnessing all of our peers get better while we slowly get worse each decade is lame, period.
Why do you always refer back to them when they have never ever if their history of football been relevant.
Sio save it.
The same reason you refer to the leather helmet days when trying to make a point, its my lived experience. We can throw Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri in there if that hurts your feelings less.
The difference is, my lived experience is the here and now, not half a century ago.
You have no known history of when the leather helmets even were,
I had to educate you on the subject just like you thought Raiola was the best passer Nebraska has ever had but you never had heard of Dave Humm and Vince Ferrgamo who both were All Americans at Nebraska.
Poor baby you never seen the all the glory years like I have seen and now your crying..
Not sure you’re a real Husker fan in the first place.
If that is your belief, then you are probably excited. It would fit the mold of hiring people who arent sought after, and tripling their salaries....So yes, I think Dannen can handle that.
Do I think hiring a nobody coach is going to go over well with fans, and inject life into boosters who are being asked to fund a stadium renovation? No.
Do I trust Dannen to hire and negotiate with coaches that could provide some of that? Absolutely not.
Here is a better way to say it. The guy has been playing checkers through this entire NIL era of college football, and he keeps looking like a moron when they stack him up against elite schools who are playing chess.....I just don't think hes a skilled AD. I think he is a cheerleading, academic administrator whos entire career is built around spending other peoples money without consequence.
Less of a connection than he does with Satterfield, McGuire, Butler, Snow, Thomas; all yes men Rhule brought in.
I have been transparent that I want Brent Vigen, so this weird "all he's going to do is triple their salary" line doesn't do much for me.
Proved my point, you don’t know $&it about any history.Let’s do this what’s your Nebraska record since you’ve been born.🫵
And If Rhule is fired in the next couple years, we won't have much money to spend on the next coach after paying his buyout. Isn't it like $70 million now?
Better go revisit the number of draft picks from some of those schools versus the number from NU Rhule’s first 2 years. I think your first statement isn’t completely accurate. That said, he’s clearly lost games he shouldn’t have. The question now is if Dana and Aurich can compensate for past failures.
. We are where we are. I believe Rhule has two more years regardless of what you want.Suppose this year and next that we can’t get back to a bowl game, or beat a ranked team, or beat any top half B1G team, and Rhule is fired. Sellout streak has been broken, zero NFL draft picks. There is no way that a “successful P4” coach currently employed in that role would choose to pack his bags for Nebraska. Even most unemployed ones would say, “Nah, I’ll wait for a better opportunity”.
Our best hope is that we get a great young coach from a lower level. Someone that’s smart and confident enough to not be deterred, and is looking for a chance to move up and prove himself. I would be content with someone like that using Nebraska as a stepping stone if he has enough success here that justifies a better opportunity. We would be in a much better place to hire his replacement. As opposed to now, where we are mostly known for giving coaches their last big payday before their careers ends.
You're too dumb to be asking questions.
Let’s do this what’s your Nebraska record since you’ve been born.🫵
Why don't you type up another room temp IQ essay that nobody is gonna read?
Not sure I buy that.
Major universities print money.
If he needs to be fired, we'll be fine.
You have a lot room to talk ya moron. I keep winning you keep losing cause you can’t admit you know nothing about Nebraska or college football history, similar to a clarkeye fan.
Answer the question what is your Nebraska record since you‘ve been born.
Quit avoiding the question and changing the narrative.
Still waiting for an answer douche bag. What you can’t do the Math?
Go suck your dad's dick again while you wait, you're not my boss
Maybe you need to go back to work being on the message board all day your boss probably will fire your azz.
Suck your own cock.
Yeah, and if Penn St wanted him (which they did not) i would have said Good, now Penn St is an easy win for about 3 years. Lol.