The most stressed hes been in his life is finding a way to get college kids cash for playing basketball?
Where things stand with Iowa, Alvaro Folgueiras
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The most stressed hes been in his life is finding a way to get college kids cash for playing basketball?
Stirtz knew he had his coaches confidence after 3 years of playing, he knew the offense and what the coach wanted, he made some money but became near legend
Ridiculous press?
Florida played the defense every team would have played there.
Iowa just drew up something to beat it
I would have to disagree. I think most pundits do too.
You can have a guy up there about 3/4 court to make sure you get the clock moving but to go full court like that and give up a wide open look was a terrible defensive strategy. The initial defender was between the inbounder and Stirtz due to the aggressive nature of that press. Automatically gives the offense a numbers up advantage.
Why didnt Fl coach play his zone press against the hawks on their last possession.
You all saw that the hawks had to pass the ball around a few times to get it past half court. Fl could have been in a 2-1-2 zone trap press, let the hawks inbound the ball in the backcourt and trap and make us pass the ball a couple times or attempt a long pass after inbounding the ball. They...
Probably time for him to check his life’s priorities. This is supposed to be entertainment, not life or death.
I 100% disagree.
You do NOT chase the ball handler. You let the entry happen, then attack. You make sure NOTHING gets behind you if you're the back end. You also force Iowa to YOUR attack, thereby forcing longer passes ------ and the clock to wind out.
In our church we called it "In God We Trust".
Most of these guys aren't even 23 yet. They don't have the capacity to act like adults.
Why didnt Fl coach play his zone press against the hawks on their last possession.
You all saw that the hawks had to pass the ball around a few times to get it past half court. Fl could have been in a 2-1-2 zone trap press, let the hawks inbound the ball in the backcourt and trap and make us pass the ball a couple times or attempt a long pass after inbounding the ball. They...
Do you guys watch basketball? It's completely STANDARD for teams to not allow the inbound pass to be caught with forward momentum/force the inbound pass to be caught deep in the backcourt.
The link above explains how Iowa took advantage of that
Regarding Folgueiras, we haven't heard anythig definitive about staying or not -seems like a decision has to be made soon. That said, BM is looking at other forwards in the portal -perhaps BM thinks the Spaniard is on his way out so is actively working to replace him??
Pure speculation on my part....
Pure speculation on my part....
Yes I'd agree, you don't want forward momentum but thats exactly what happened because defense allowed for that to happen. There was a lot of things wrong with the defense but 2 biggest ones is you don't put a man on the inbounder in that situation and you don't recklessly chase Stirtz like that allowing a fastbresk to happen. Florida played that possession as if it was behind. Golden later said they wanted to foul. That imo is also dumb decision but it does explain the defense a bit. Iowa really outplayed them anyways and still had to make the shot.Why didnt Fl coach play his zone press against the hawks on their last possession.
You all saw that the hawks had to pass the ball around a few times to get it past half court. Fl could have been in a 2-1-2 zone trap press, let the hawks inbound the ball in the backcourt and trap and make us pass the ball a couple times or attempt a long pass after inbounding the ball. They...www.on3.com
Do you guys watch basketball? It's completely STANDARD for teams to not allow the inbound pass to be caught with forward momentum/force the inbound pass to be caught deep in the backcourt.
The link above explains how Iowa took advantage of that
I think the first problem for Florida was that there was 8 seconds left - lots of time. So, it was going to be difficult for them to prevent Iowa from getting some kind of shot.Why didnt Fl coach play his zone press against the hawks on their last possession.
You all saw that the hawks had to pass the ball around a few times to get it past half court. Fl could have been in a 2-1-2 zone trap press, let the hawks inbound the ball in the backcourt and trap and make us pass the ball a couple times or attempt a long pass after inbounding the ball. They...
Do you guys watch basketball? It's completely STANDARD for teams to not allow the inbound pass to be caught with forward momentum/force the inbound pass to be caught deep in the backcourt.
The link above explains how Iowa took advantage of that
But the mistake IMO was that Florida had 3 guys pressing in the back court. The Hawks break that and it's a 3 on 2 fast break. And it was actually pretty easy.
If it were me, I wouldn't have had a defender on the ball and I would put two guys doing more of a soft press trying to keep the Iowa guys in front of them, but keep it so you've got 5 defenders when the ball gets to the front court.
If you want to talk "involved parents," didn't Caitlin Clark's entire family take 2+ years off from work to attend every one of her home and away games? Parents are typically looking out for their kids' best interests.
True, I was thinking more along the lines of those parents nagging the staff about playing time and on the floor type things.
And why would he be deflecting? Because his Defense in that situation was fuggin idiotic and everyone was calling him out for it
The link provided in posts #45 and #51 provide your answers.
Almost certainly, it wasn't an all-out press. The ball would have been "allowed" to be inbounded deep in the backcourt. Fland even immediately gave up the face guard, perhaps by rule.
The inbounds pass was guarded to force a high pass to the inbounder's right, which would have been obstructed by the basket.
Koch running the baseline, to be able to pass to his right, is what made the play.
Credit to Iowa. Florida was trying to not allow the inbound to be caught with forward momentum/force a deep catch. Completely STANDARD practice in that situation these days
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You're trying to defend something that was a complete failure. Just like in football, there are times when the DB plays on the line of scrimmage and there are times when he's backed a few yards so he can contain the WR. As a defender you want the WR catch the ball in front of you so you can make a play.
This is really about containment and Florida lost containment. You can say Ben's play was great, but at the same time, it's ok to say the defense did a terrible job.
What about Thompson and Harris at the 4
Koch and Coon at the three
Sage and Howard at the two
Combs at pg or two depending on portal pg
Portal center, Manyawu, Jirak
So why the need for Golden to deflect saying they were trying to foul? Ohhh ya, because it was a terrible defensive set. But im sure you know far more about the game than the former players/coaches that all chimed in that night and for the next 5 days saying that was a trrrible way to defend in that situation. But carry on oh wise one, keep instilling more wisdom in us
Simply watch the play, guys. It speaks for itself.
Unless perhaps, you are unable to wrap your head around the fact that, not allowing an uncontested inbounds catch is widely used strategy these days. The defense contests until the catch has to be made moving towards the inbounder and/or deep in the backcourt. Watch basketball games
I've never tried to defend anything in football that was a complete failure. Read better.
No Florida's defense wasn't a failure. They used a widely employed strategy that they felt gave them the best chance in that situation.
Iowa beat the D with a special play. It happens. Credit to Iowa
Who cares why Golden said what he said? It's irrelevant to the play.
My best guess is he was being a poor loser in that moment
NIL and the revenue sharing piece are separate entities in regards to international student athletes.
This, good lineup and 100% Coon can play the 3 or even the 2. Harris and Trey will be problems for the B10 sooner than later and if Howard bumps up a bit I'm comfortable there too.
Kael is a good off guard with some PG play too and we will get help there most definitely. There are just too many good players with and without huge asking prices in the portal -- wasn't it something like 49% of scholly D1 kids are in the portal...nuts...
Read better....
But im sure you know far more about the game than the former players/coaches that all chimed in that night and for the next 5 days saying that was a trrrible way to defend in that situation.
@eyesofhawk Stop posting and embarrassing yourself. Everyone on a daily basis disagrees with the bs you type. You don't know anything about sports...
You linked to a post you made in a different thread. Citing yourself isn't some grand gotcha. Back to ignore.
Not quite the same numbers advantage as Nebraska gave
, but that's spot on. And the Hawks took advantage of it.
FYI, the catch was made moving away from the inbounder. So the defense didn't force the catch to be made moving towards the inbounder so what Florida did was opposite from what you're saying.
I never said you defended failure in football. You defending Florida is the failures. Take your own advice and read better.
How do you think Iowa came up with that special play, it was because they saw how Florida was guarding and used it against Florida.
Ok. You're probably right, but it's not how I would have played it.
Notice, Iowa did what I suggested Florida should have done on Florida's last attempt. No one on the inbounder, Three guys in the back court in a soft press, not letting them get behind them. When the ball gets to the front court it's 5 v 5.
1. You first.
2. You don't know as much as you think you know/project about basketball.
3. You're trying too hard to be contrarian in a thread...............again.
Stirtz dad was his coach at Liberty where he played. He understands the relationship of coach/star player
Koch has work to do on guarding wing forwards. Right now Thompson and Harris would be penciled in there.
Thompson has been really impressive late this season in practice as he's picked up his abilities to defend 2 thru 5 and he's a bucket.
Shooting well from 3 and attacks closeouts and finishes at the rim with aggression.