Class A girls basketball.....wow
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Sir, in this thread you have said that you could not coach low level kids. You said you take time in practice teaching how to dunk.
You are not a coach. You work with kids that another coach already coached and you show up for the games.
"In rec, I couldn't teach 75% of the things I teach my teams because it is above most rec kids heads and abilities."
Sorry, I guess you said you could not teach them...Where I thought you said you could not coach them.
Can you explain to me what you can't teach them?
Like, say for instance it is golf.
Why can't you teach a bad golfer how to better swing a club? Why can't you teach a bad putter how to putt better? Why do they have to come to you "ready-made"
I can't teach Calculus to a 3rd grade class it is above their heads and abilities.
But you can teach them math and build from there, right?
If a kid shows up to golf practice and has never golfed, you would not expect him to hit a 275 yard drive on his first shot, but you would start to build up to that. You would not go "Sorry, you can't practice"
Again, context. You know what he was saying, you are just being a retard.
I’m guessing he told his players to never get married to their ‘best friend’.
I try to leave that kind of stuff out of it but trust me it is not easy! HahahaI’m guessing he told his players to never get married to their ‘best friend’.
I do it really subtly
"Guys, guys, everyone take a knee, so this summer I would like you to get some lifting in and also please don't get married, there is just no upside to it"
This is 100% true.
I am not even saying that is a bad thing. I have run so many camps because I knew it would get me extra money.
But it is a money grab. If it wasn't, those coaches would not be charging what they charge.
We have some good friends who put their daughter into an "Olympic development program" for soccer. Played in K.C. and beyond.. talk about a license to steal money from parents!! Like the other 10 year old girls and coaches in Omaha weren't good enough, they had to go to K.C. every weekend for real coaching and competition.. Shocker, she never made the Olymoic squad but boy did those parents think awfully highly of that whole deal. Never missed an opportunity to aay their girl was in an Olympic development program.
THIS!!!!
My favorite are the "Well, we spent about 10k this year on select sport (doesn't matter which one) but we like it, it is worth it" fast forward a bit "Yeah, so he doesn't play (insert sport here) anymore in high school, his coach was (insert mean name for coach here), so he quit"
...to this girls credit she did finally tell her folks she wasn't into it. They made her stick it out for a season or two after she wanted to quit, hoping she'd get the bug, but it never happened. Don't even wanna know what all that cost... but if it were up to her, she never woulda dun it to begin with.
Then there are situations like mine, where I spent money for my kids to play in a top program which resulted in both earning scholarships to pay for their college educations in full. So I looked at it like I get to travel the country with them, they get to experience places they wouldn't have if they just played rec or Y ball. The money I spent on travel and ball dues would have been saved for college anyway. So it is a net zero game other than the experiences we shared with the kids. And they walked away from college debt free. I'll take that result.
Not every situation takes as long as your friends did to realize it wasn't going to be a successful venture. Kids quit, parents say they aren't paying anymore, etc..every day.
I know two girls playing both HS and club volleyball. Club is expensive. They travel a lot. But they get WAY better coaching than their HS coaches can provide... by a lot. The result? Interest from 4 schools and a full scholarship to college that would have been MUCH more difficult to wrangle had the top coaching not been there. The good? Club ran on either side of the HS schedule. Interest in other sports weren't really there anyway but in middle school the schedule was shorter so basketball exposure was an option. As they advanced in skill and found their love they went 1 sport only and got better weight training outside of school. Improvement was much more obvious during club than during the HS season and in fact they were often asked to approach their play differently and outside of their skill set which helped nobody... team or athlete.
There are many routes to being able to play post high school. The right programs and coaches aren't always in the confines of the school.
There are many routes to being able to play post high school. The right programs and coaches aren't always in the confines of the school.
You guys know who coaches and/or does the asst coaching for almost all club/select sports, right?
It is high school coaches and/or former high school coaches. This "better coaching" thing is just weird.
I don't know one select/club coach, for any sport, that isn't a HS coach and/or former HS coach.
It is high school coaches and/or former high school coaches. This "better coaching" thing is just weird.
I don't know one select/club coach, for any sport, that isn't a HS coach and/or former HS coach.
The club coaches that coach at open enrollment schools and recruit kids from closed districts to play for them enrage me to no end. Millard ....cough cough cough North cough cough South....cough cough West
Speaking of really important sports…I’m pretty sure you bumped us out!
But the NSAA can implement transfer and residency requirements for athletics
Nobody said that some of the club coaches weren't HS coaches... but you do realize that there are a LOT of HS coaches who aren't club coaches and there is pretty good reason as to why. Club coaches tend to be better coaches. Not all good HS coaches are club, not all club coaches are good. But make no mistake that there is a pretty damn good chance that a kid playing club at some of the better organizations are going to get the highest quality coaching they can get.
I have watched for 5 years the improvements made during club and the absolute half-assed efforts of the HS coaches for the same girls. Not everyone's experience is the same nor would I characterize that as fact.... just like the statements about club kids and parents aren't across the board truthful statements.
You can have your experiences be true for you and those around you but that isn't how it is all over. Parents make the best decisions for their kids as they see fit whether others agree or not.
All I know is that until I saw the discrepancy between club coaching and HS coaching first hand I was in the camp of disbelief that people pay what they pay. Now I can see the benefits for some athletes and no longer judge those who go that route.
I am sorry! Trust me, I was not trying to do that.
We just got insanely lucky.
How do you know when you have become the crazy parent? As you guys know, the camps and tournaments never stop. Where do you draw the line?
I have a couple elementary-aged boys in basketball. Started taking them to camps to fill in gaps that were created by their coaches who didn't play them and give them opportunities because I didn't grow up in this town. Saw major improvement, to the point where the older one went from playing half as much as the other kids last year to the focal point of the offense this year. They aren't going D-1.
I just signed them up for a camp on President's Day and now after reading this I'm feeling like kind of a crazy parent. Camp in the morning and practice at night, on their day off school.
I have a couple elementary-aged boys in basketball. Started taking them to camps to fill in gaps that were created by their coaches who didn't play them and give them opportunities because I didn't grow up in this town. Saw major improvement, to the point where the older one went from playing half as much as the other kids last year to the focal point of the offense this year. They aren't going D-1.
I just signed them up for a camp on President's Day and now after reading this I'm feeling like kind of a crazy parent. Camp in the morning and practice at night, on their day off school.
Camps, sign them up for as many as they are interested in! Sports camps, science camps, robotics, woodworking, E-sports. They make friends, they have fun, they make memories. Usually those camps are 150-250 dollars.
There is nothing crazy about that and honestly on a day off from school, assuming they can't drive yet, they WANT something do to. **** years ago I ran a "Dodge Ball" camp for a week over the summer and the kids LOVED it but the parents loved it more. It got their 7th/8th grade kids out of the house for 2 hours.
Yep, pretty much every study shows that the more involved you are at school the better your grades become. And for the most part everything else tends to get better.
It almost feels like you have to if you want them to be playing. When we were kids on a day off, we just went outside and found 5 other kids and played in the driveway. I did see one driveway game this week, but it's rare.
One job of a good parent is to provide opportunities for their kids. Kudos for doing that and kudos to them for taking advantage of the opportunities.
Everybody has cable TV, video games and the internet. Why should I go outside and get sweaty?