Seth Greenberg thinks we're upset because we haven't won every single game.

Cats192

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I get it. He's a Calipari mouth piece. But you read this and you'd think we're this upset over losing only 1 game all season. In reality, we're down double digits in most of our games vs quality teams. We're coming off a 25 point blowout in which our team clearly wasn't prepared.

No one expects us to win every game. We expect to compete. We expect to play hard. We expect to not consistently be down 15+ points at half time.

I'm honestly suprised Seth could form full sentences given how deeply embedded in his throat Calipari is.
 

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He has been critical of UK all season and their lack of identity. Problem with mouth pieces is they don’t face any rebuttals, they just got to mouth off and go on about their day.
 
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I get it on some level our fanbase is a bit on the ridiculous side.

But the fact of the matter is we've not been competitive in some of these games this seaosn and last season. Forget wins and losses.

When was the last time outside of these 2 years you've seen UK consistently get down by double digits? This didn't happen with Cal, didn't happen with Billy G even, not Tubby, Pitino.

Fans have a right to be upset here.
 

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This is what I keep telling the 4 here who are aiding him in lowering standards.

Cal says keep Mark. The UK heater Greenberg wants to make us sound extreme and wants us to keep mark. They were shocked last year that it wasn’t going the way they thought it would, they were just a year off. All of these guys loved the hire and know it won’t work.

So they want to make us sound extreme and give cover to Barnhart a Pope so he stays put. He can’t win here and they know it. He’s going to sound warm and fuzzy for Mark against big bad UK fans

Stop giving them what they want. Boo, Call for Pope to be removed. They did the same exact thing when Tubby was here. “He’s a great man, UK fans are extreme”.

Funny, Tang was in an elite 8 2 year ago, but they don’t say Kansas St. fans are extreme. They say Hubert’s seat is hot after a final four and better results. UNC fans aren’t extreme. Put it together it’s easy to see what this is.

Everyone that hates UK, loves Mark and wants him here. Boo the hell out of this until we’re in final fours.
 
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And I don't buy his whole identity talking point he likes to tout as well.

Would we be better if completely healthy and we had the practices at the beginning of the year with the full squad? Yes there's no question about that.

But that's not the major problem here. The major problem here is even healthy, this team isn't good enough.
 
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This is what I keep telling the 4 here who are aiding him in lowering standards.

Cal says keep Mark. The UK heater Greenberg wants to make us sound extreme and wants us to keep mark. They were shocked last year that it wasn’t going the way they thought it would, they were just a year off. All of these guys loved the hire and know it won’t work.

So they want to make us sound extreme and give cover to Barnhart a Pope so he stays put. He can’t win here and they know it. He’s going to sound warm and fuzzy for Mark against big bad UK fans

Stop giving them what they want. Boo, Call for Pope to be removed. They did the same exact thing when Tubby was here. “He’s a great man, UK fans are extreme”.

Funny, Tang was in an elite 8 2 year ago, but they don’t say Kansas St. fans are extreme. They say Hubert’s seat is hot after a final four and better results. UNC fans aren’t extreme. Put it together it’s easy to see what this is.

Everyone that hates UK, loves Mark and wants him here. Boo the hell out of this until we’re in final fours.

So you believe they are conspiring knowing that Mark Pope is not good so they talk him up so UK keeps him to keep UK down?

I don't know. Honestly when Cal gives praise of Mark Pope, it's not but coach speak. Most coaches aren't going to talk down another coach. I don't think this is somehow a Cal masterplan to keep us being relevant.

As far as Greenburg it's not unreasonable to think that maybe he feels like Pope is the guy. As much as some disagree (and understandbly so) we arent even tho year 2 yet. Who knows. Maybe he does turn it around.
 

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I get it. He's a Calipari mouth piece. But you read this and you'd think we're this upset over losing only 1 game all season. In reality, we're down double digits in most of our games vs quality teams. We're coming off a 25 point blowout in which our team clearly wasn't prepared.

No one expects us to win every game. We expect to compete. We expect to play hard. We expect to not consistently be down 15+ points at half time.

I'm honestly suprised Seth could form full sentences given how deeply embedded in his throat Calipari is.



100% right, F.uck Greensburg, good thing he can talk s.hit, because he couldn't coach 😂
 
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It’s amazing how many fired coaches end up with a job on ESPN. Seth, Crean,etc. hell they even had NC State’s Kevin Keatts on the other day. ESPN = the official unemployment office for fired coaches.
 
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I get it on some level our fanbase is a bit on the ridiculous side.

But the fact of the matter is we've not been competitive in some of these games this seaosn and last season. Forget wins and losses.

When was the last time outside of these 2 years you've seen UK consistently get down by double digits? This didn't happen with Cal, didn't happen with Billy G even, not Tubby, Pitino.

Fans have a right to be upset here.
The last 20 years of UK basketball have been Cal’s ridiculous run, sandwiched on either side by 5 years of mediocrity and 2 bad head coaching hires. We’ve watched a lot of $hi*** basketball over that time. It’s not ridiculous to expect better. Greenberg exaggerates.
 

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This is what I keep telling the 4 here who are aiding him in lowering standards.

Cal says keep Mark. The UK heater Greenberg wants to make us sound extreme and wants us to keep mark. They were shocked last year that it wasn’t going the way they thought it would, they were just a year off. All of these guys loved the hire and know it won’t work.

So they want to make us sound extreme and give cover to Barnhart a Pope so he stays put. He can’t win here and they know it. He’s going to sound warm and fuzzy for Mark against big bad UK fans

Stop giving them what they want. Boo, Call for Pope to be removed. They did the same exact thing when Tubby was here. “He’s a great man, UK fans are extreme”.

Funny, Tang was in an elite 8 2 year ago, but they don’t say Kansas St. fans are extreme. They say Hubert’s seat is hot after a final four and better results. UNC fans aren’t extreme. Put it together it’s easy to see what this is.

Everyone that hates UK, loves Mark and wants him here. Boo the hell out of this until we’re in final fours.
"Boo the Hell out of this until we are in Final Fours"...for a Coach that has been here a season and a half and a S16 in his only complete season despite starting without a single player on the roster...yeah, Cats fans aren't absurd...

Cue the Clown music...
 

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I’m glad these experts know the landscape of college basketball. I live my life hanging on all there assertions on the lay of the game. Especially Bilas that man is pure brilliance.
Seriously wtf do any of them bring to the table? I really wonder if there’s anyone on this planet who can’t wait to hear what they got to say.
Why not get some entertaining guys who are very knowledgeable yet have some sort of chemistry combined with good humor.
NBA has Chuck, Shaq, Kenny and Ernie. We got Jimmy Dykes lol, Ice cream Bilas, yes man Shulman, Seth I wanna coach Greenburg, Jay willing to blow Sheyer Williams, dick Penis Vitale and I’m sure I’m missing others. RIP to the best analyst of all time Bill Walton!
 

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He’s a failed coach , of course he’s going to support another bad coach.
 

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Would he say this about duke fans if this shoe was on their foot? No way
No he wouldn’t. Hubert has a final four and UNC, he’s talked about how Hubert isn’t living up to expectations currently.

This is all to make UK go south which is what all of those ACC guys and northeastern media guys want. UK to accept losing and be looked at as extreme if we don’t.
 
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So you believe they are conspiring knowing that Mark Pope is not good so they talk him up so UK keeps him to keep UK down?

I don't know. Honestly when Cal gives praise of Mark Pope, it's not but coach speak. Most coaches aren't going to talk down another coach. I don't think this is somehow a Cal masterplan to keep us being relevant.

As far as Greenburg it's not unreasonable to think that maybe he feels like Pope is the guy. As much as some disagree (and understandbly so) we arent even tho year 2 yet. Who knows. Maybe he does turn it around.
Yes the media has been doing this for years. Dick V literally told Patterson to go to Florida and said UK fans were nuts from wanting to move on. No they don’t think Mark is UK material. It’s ridiculous to think such foolishness. He absolutely does not think Pope is Standard hire for a blue blood lol Good grief these takes.

Didn’t you also say nothing would change with paying players and everything we’re seeing was already happening? 🤣

Your “I’m the middle man routine” is always on point though. House burning down? People running out? This is fine, it’s just some fire, no need in a rush. 🤣
 

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Just take what Seth says as a grain of truth because I honestly believe we can be that unrealistic.

When your team has highs, you want to keep tasting that high. Thats all this really is to most of us. It's like an ego thing too. My team is better than your team mentality.
 
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Yes the media has been doing this for years. Dick V literally told Patterson to go to Florida and said UK fans were nuts from wanting to move on. No they don’t think Mark is UK material. It’s ridiculous to think such foolishness. He absolutely does not think Pope is. Standard hire for a blue blood lo. Good grief these takes.

You guys aren't consistent at all with this stuff lol. Not everything is a conspiracy against UK.

Seth Greenberg is a "Cal guy"..........He's been highly critical of UK this season. If he wanted Pope to continue to coach at UK so that UK continues to suck, why on earth would he be critical of the team? He'd be out here kissing our feet, speaking highly of Pope. I'm not seeing that at all when he talks about us. He's always been negative this year, every chance he's gotten. The second we are down by double digits, the identity crap gets pulled out. That's on a knock on Pope, not praise.
 
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I’m glad these experts know the landscape of college basketball. I live my life hanging on all there assertions on the lay of the game. Especially Bilas that man is pure brilliance.
Seriously wtf do any of them bring to the table? I really wonder if there’s anyone on this planet who can’t wait to hear what they got to say.
Why not get some entertaining guys who are very knowledgeable yet have some sort of chemistry combined with good humor.
NBA has Chuck, Shaq, Kenny and Ernie. We got Jimmy Dykes lol, Ice cream Bilas, yes man Shulman, Seth I wanna coach Greenburg, Jay willing to blow Sheyer Williams, dick Penis Vitale and I’m sure I’m missing others. RIP to the best analyst of all time Bill Walton!
Yeah the same folks who told us all off-season that we were like Noah's Ark and have two of everything. Same folks who told us we were final 4 contenders etc. Our coach said the same stuff preseason so seems obvious Pope and the pundits were just a tad off on evaluations
 
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Yeah the same folks who told us all off-season that we were like Noah's Ark and have two of everything. Same folks who told us we were final 4 contenders etc. Our coach said the same stuff preseason so seems obvious Pope and the pundits were just a tad off on evaluations

Yeah. Its becoming increasingly clear that everyone was wrong. Not just the pundits or the fans or the human polls or the computer polls, just everything.
 

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So you believe they are conspiring knowing that Mark Pope is not good so they talk him up so UK keeps him to keep UK down?

I don't know. Honestly when Cal gives praise of Mark Pope, it's not but coach speak. Most coaches aren't going to talk down another coach. I don't think this is somehow a Cal masterplan to keep us being relevant.

As far as Greenburg it's not unreasonable to think that maybe he feels like Pope is the guy. As much as some disagree (and understandbly so) we arent even tho year 2 yet. Who knows. Maybe he does turn it around.
Except for Oats because he really seems to like trolling Pope lol. Pearl has been way more diplomatic on his criticism. I think both of them are signaling that your coach is weak and Im happy to talk.
 

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You guys aren't consistent at all with this stuff lol. Not everything is a conspiracy against UK.

Seth Greenberg is a "Cal guy"..........He's been highly critical of UK this season. If he wanted Pope to continue to coach at UK so that UK continues to suck, why on earth would he be critical of the team? He'd be out here kissing our feet, speaking highly of Pope. I'm not seeing that at all when he talks about us. He's always been negative this year, every chance he's gotten. The second we are down by double digits, the identity crap gets pulled out. That's on a knock on Pope, not praise.

Nothing you said is within the context of reality in time. He can’t say a team that’s getting the doors blown off them is fine. but he does want Mark to stay here, hence why he talks this way. I wouldn’t expect you to get it, you are more interested in sounding like some self perceived adult in the room than what’s actually happening. You’ve been wrong so much through the years it’s hard to believe you’re not trolling at this point. Your positions on the past NIL and how it changes the landscape were especially bad. Your stance on Calipari was brutally wrong. So there’s no need in continuing with a guy who’s either trolling for his shtick or can’t see the hand in front of his face.
 

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Yeah. It’s
becoming increasingly clear that everyone was wrong. Not just the pundits or the fans or the human polls or the computer polls, just everything.

Except this is not true. Nate Oats knew this team wasn’t going to be that good, as did Floridas coach. Probably Pearl too. You just have no ability to understand what’s going on lol. Never have.
 
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Nothing you said is within the context of reality in time. He can’t say a team that’s getting the doors blown off them is fine. but he does want Mark to stay here, hence why he talks this way. I wouldn’t expect you to get it, you are more interested in sounding like some self perceived adult in the room than what’s actually happening. You’ve been wrong so much through the years it’s hard to believe you’re not trolling at this point. Your positions on the past NIL and how it changes the landscape were especially bad. Your stance on Calipari was brutally wrong. So there’s no need in continuing with a guy who’s either trolling for his shtick or can’t see the hand in front of his face.

And there's no need to debate with someone like this so I'm done with this convo

Have a wonderful day
 
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WHAT lmao
Dude you are such a troll. lol. Might be the best one that’s ever been here. Ignore reality, pretend the house is never on fire, “I’m the adult” routine and nobody ever knows you’re trolling. It’s funny. But I know you’ve aways been a troll I’ve just gone with with it lol.

But you have a marvelous day, and remember, computer model says, and nothing is actually going on. There are no agendas, everyone is just sleepwalking throughout the day!
 

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I understand what he is trying to say, we actually want to win every game. Show me a team or fan base who is okay with losing, and I will show you a team that I want to play every game.
With this team I expect hard, close games that come down to the wire. I don’t expect to have our brains beat out like they have this year or the double digit leads we give almost every game.

I expect in game coaching, not wait until halftime to make changes. I expect spacing and passing and I expect shooting and making shots.
How about some help defense or some fight on defense. We are a very lazy and out of shape team. These guys are not elite at anything, maybe some above average but more are just average and we paid top dollar for steers not bulls.

That is the coaching staff that had to use $$ to close the deal instead of closing the deal with promises of winning and development and the NBA.

Seth we overpaid for our players and everyone knows it, give some of these other coaches 22 million and they might be the best team ever assembled.
So, yes we have unrealistic expectations at UK, just like your previous coaching experience, mediocre performances by the players and coaches. And for you to comment on UK Fans is unrealistic because you are not a winner and never have been so you have never had expectations. If you did, they went away faster than your hairline!