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rigi19040

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PSU89er said:
Rumor mill was the Underwood is getting about 10 to12 million over several years in NIL to be at Michigan. I doubt he's ever leaving.
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I will bet he does leave. 75% of 5* transfer.

Most of you were complaining about an underperformer making 500k. Do you think teams want a guy making $3m who underperforms?
 
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LB99

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For those that balked at me for saying PSU needs to recruit more blue chips in future classes. DJ Jacobs, the 5,star, top recruit for 2027 committed to Ohio State. He’s out of Georgia and spurned the hometown Bulldogs for Columbus. This is what we are up against.
 
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Don't know if he still has an offer with the coaching change, but the kid is an athlete.

Pistol squats on a Bosu, wtf
 
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rigi19040

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LB99 said:
For those that balked at me for saying PSU needs to recruit more blue chips in future classes. DJ Jacobs, the 5,star, top recruit for 2027 committed to Ohio State. He’s out of Georgia and spurned the hometown Bulldogs for Columbus. This is what we are up against.
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Out recruit the best recruiting schools? Yea, that wont work.

1. Those schools spend more than PSU and will always have more.
2. The schools that out recruit PSU usually have MORE talent in state/region talent.
3. Some of those schools are much easier to visit. Columbus is about 3x the size of Pittsburgh and 2x the size of Miami. Columbus has an airport with direct flights to recruiting hotbeds.



PS. A larger percentage of starters still in the playoffs are actually transfers.
 
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Am I alone in the feeling that PSU shouldn't be chasing after a bunch of 5*s in this NIL era? Give me a team full of 4* and high 3* recruits that are committed to the team and working hard to improve their game while making the program better as well.

Ex. Rogers > Spell
 
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LionsAndBears said:
Am I alone in the feeling that PSU shouldn't be chasing after a bunch of 5*s in this NIL era? Give me a team full of 4* and high 3* recruits that are committed to the team and working hard to improve their game while making the program better as well.

Ex. Rogers > Spell
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Maybe. But if one of those 5 stars would turn out like Jeremiah Smith, we would all be pretty happy.
 
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LB99 said:
Maybe. But if one of those 5 stars would turn out like Jeremiah Smith, we would all be pretty happy.
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The rate at which we would strike out on a 5* and the cost of actually paying a 5* detracts from the overall team IMO. PSU is in Centre County. It's not the major market that tends to attract 5*s. If we go all in to court such a talent, we would probably do so at the expense of turning away other players who would be more than capable of excelling at PSU.

So, why not focus on the players that are in our wheelhouse?
 
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LionsAndBears said:
The rate at which we would strike out on a 5* and the cost of actually paying a 5* detracts from the overall team IMO. PSU is in Centre County. It's not the major market that tends to attract 5*s. If we go all in to court such a talent, we would probably do so at the expense of turning away other players who would be more than capable of excelling at PSU.

So, why not focus on the players that are in our wheelhouse?
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With all due respect, this is a somewhat strange take. It’s like being afraid of recruiting good players. So, because a really high rated recruit MAY not pan out, you should never recruit really highly rated players? Look at the teams that have won consistently for the last 5-10 years and look at their blue chip ratios and recruiting rankings, or more specifically their 5 star players. Talent wins. If you set the bar in recruiting at a middle level, you should only expect middle level results then.
 
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LB99 said:
With all due respect, this is a somewhat strange take. It’s like being afraid of recruiting good players. So, because a really high rated recruit MAY not pan out, you should never recruit really highly rated players? Look at the teams that have won consistently for the last 5-10 years and look at their blue chip ratios and recruiting rankings, or more specifically their 5 star players. Talent wins. If you set the bar in recruiting at a middle level, you should only expect middle level results then.
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My feelings aren't absolute. They're general and Indiana says hello.

Do you think pursuing Kemon Spell for months, at the expense of losing out on other excellent RBs is worth it? This is my point.
 
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LionsAndBears said:
My feelings aren't absolute. They're general and Indiana says hello.

Do you think pursuing Kemon Spell for months, at the expense of losing out on other excellent RBs is worth it? This is my point.
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Again, Indiana is an outlier. I never mentioned Spell. You did.
 
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LionsAndBears said:
The rate at which we would strike out on a 5* and the cost of actually paying a 5* detracts from the overall team IMO. PSU is in Centre County. It's not the major market that tends to attract 5*s. If we go all in to court such a talent, we would probably do so at the expense of turning away other players who would be more than capable of excelling at PSU.

So, why not focus on the players that are in our wheelhouse?
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Its all a matter of a return on investment. If you have a well constructed roster where everyone is fairly compensated and understands and buys in their compensation structure then you try to recruit 5* star players as long as they are in a position that they can get on the field immediately. Skill players can fall into this category (Smith, Henry). Where things get more complicated is when you are recruiting a 5* player who is not ready to help but demands to be paid based on their projected potential. That, then, requires significant financial commitments with no assurance the player will stick and then you simply have flushed this money down the toilet.
 
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RyanSnyder said:
www.on3.com

Sean Currie - The Lawrenceville School - Tight End

Sean Currie is a 3-star 2027 Tight End at The Lawrenceville School from Trenton, NJ. Ranked No. 535 nationally and No. 31 among TEs with an 88.07 On3 industry rating.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

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This staff marches at the beat of their own drummer. I am looking at some of the offers to recruits in the mid-80s and would love to hear Mouser and the other are assessing these prospects.
 
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Itraindogs said:
This staff marches at the beat of their own drummer. I am looking at some of the offers to recruits in the mid-80s and would love to hear Mouser and the other are assessing these prospects.
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Stargazers are probably going to get frustrated. But with that being said, Currie is a 6'7 230 TE and ranked within the top 400-500 nationally. I don't know if this one is necessarily a "reach." Based on Campbell's past TEs, he likes them 6'5+.

For what it's worth, sounds like Campbell & Terry spent the week in Pittsburgh and they're willing to make a significant investment in the WPIAL in '27. PA has 12-15 4/5*s so the bulk of the '27 money may be spent within the state of PA.

Just noodling on my part.
 
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TheWizardofCamelot said:
Stargazers are probably going to get frustrated. But with that being said, Currie is a 6'7 230 TE and ranked within the top 400-500 nationally. I don't know if this one is necessarily a "reach." Based on Campbell's past TEs, he likes them 6'5+.

For what it's worth, sounds like Campbell & Terry spent the week in Pittsburgh and they're willing to make a significant investment in the WPIAL in '27. PA has 12-15 4/5*s so the bulk of the '27 money may be spent within the state of PA.

Just noodling on my part.
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Currie is just barely under the 4-star threshold. PSU recruited plenty of kids in that ratings range under the previous staff (including Tyler Warren). From what I gather, the new staff prioritizes certain traits (like size) at different position groups, and they will go get what they are looking for regardless of what recruiting services say. So, we should expect them to bring in a number of three-star players they identify as kids that will fit well what they want to do. The hope is that the staff, with a bit of a track record to back it up, can coach and develop really well the kids they evaluate and target.

I might become concerned if the blue-chip ratio of signed classes starts dropping below the 50% level as a trend, if they strike out on most of the top players in PA they target, or if they don't acquire enough speed at skill positions and linebackers (speed is kind of important at the B1G level). But, so far we need to give them a chance to get settled into a new region of the country and establish their recruiting footprint. I see that they are targeting quite a number of blue-chip guys. Let's see how they can close, but we have a long way to go.
 
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