Venezuela Operation Underway
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Just sitting back watching the world burn sounds like a good strategy until you start to burn with it…
We’re still the leader of the free world & with that comes the responsibility of attempting to keep the world in line & doing things we don’t necessarily want to do…without someone doing it, the world would be in complete chaos…we keep everyone in check.
"What they're saying: "After the end of the Cold War, American foreign policy elites convinced themselves that permanent American domination of the entire world was in the best interests of our country," the White House argues in its new National Security Strategy.
- "Yet the affairs of other countries are our concern only if their activities directly threaten our interests."
- As China and Japan engaged in rhetorical brinksmanship last month over Taiwan, Trump sided with Beijing and urged Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi to cool it.
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MAGAt, cultist, moral compass no you are not a liberal or even a leftist, socialist or a Dem. These phrases are just something you heard. I’m sure you are just a middle of the road guy just trying to make ends meet. Doesn’t get into politics. My *** your phrasing is right out of the liberal, American hating atheist handbook.
We're no longer free.
And you sound like the exact opposite of a MAGAt ... who espoused not involving ourselves in regime change, nation building, exploiting other countries for resources, etc. .... that was neocon nonsense that got us into trouble and was one of the pillars of the MAGAt movement, differentiating itself from the neocons who had led the Republican party for decades (again, in the MAGAts mind).
But now that your dictator has abandoned this rhetoric, and just decided to go full Hitler ... now it's "we need to take over whatever we want to be great again ... it's for security!"
English, mothereffer ... do you speak it? Are you an illegal that has refused to assimilate and learn our language? Otherwise there's zero excuse for your inability to articulate your ideas. Get back to licking toilets for a living ... you're not qualified to opine on the topic, cultist. You support a fascist dictator. I have no desire to see far right extremist fascists - like you've become - nor far left extremists, wield power.
You may want to do some research on this chief …Oh good lord the balloons
Again, how is illegally attacking Venezuela supposed to kick China out?
"As China and Japan engaged in rhetorical brinksmanship last month over Taiwan, Trump sided with Beijing and urged Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi to cool it."
Sounds like you are upset. Go back to fighting for the right to amputate children’s penises. You leftist are definitely some sick *** people.
The winner of a fair election in Venezuela will now take her rightful place.
Right ... this is what you have to resort to ... making crap up. This is all you have. Create an alternate reality in your mind to justify becoming a Nazi.
Same logic that lead to the creation of Al Qaeda, Taliban and Isis. I'm old enough and know enough about our history to spot a failed policy when I see it.
Joe Biden pardoned his Drug addicted son who left cocaine inside the white house?
I don’t know…maybe ask the millions of Venezuelans that are dancing in the streets & crying tears of joy this morning…
You are dead wrong. Every Venezuelan I have talked to (yes, I know quite a lot) are ecstatic and hope this leads to regime change. Maduro is the reason many of them fled here. Look up how many people he forced out of the country. They have been wanting him out for many years. Only the cartel and the people getting rich from it are angry.
I can’t stop laughing at all these lib freaks reeee-ing from the rooftops.
What’s lost in all of this is how meticulous the strike was. Can any of you limp-wristed cucks drop your nuts(if they’re still attached ) long enough to at least admit that ?
What’s lost in all of this is how meticulous the strike was. Can any of you limp-wristed cucks drop your nuts(if they’re still attached ) long enough to at least admit that ?
So, our President should now be able to just unilaterally depose whichever world leaders he wants, if some people in that country would be happy about it? That's our new fascist edict?
And why would we be angry? Only because you don’t like the other side and hate anything they do! Everything the president isn’t wrong
Yeah, you can't dispute the contention ... I get it. Because it's not disputable. MAGAts have abandoned one of the primary pillars of their movement in order to consolidate more power in their Fuhrer.
The substance was discovered on a Sunday evening, over the July 4th holiday weekend. President Joe Biden and his family, including Hunter Biden, were at Camp David at the time and had not been in the White House since the previous Friday evening.
For those that are against the move by President Trump, I would be interested in what you feel should be done for a situation that was building in Venezuela.
For years, our greatest enemy (China) has been aligning themselves with Maduro and it is reasonable to assume that would continue based on the proximity of Venezuela to the US and the resources available in that country.
Is that ok in your minds? What if China put missiles in Venezuela like the situation that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis? Do we wait until that happens and then figure out how to react?
Our previous president didn't do anything to address this threat, even when China put a balloon in our country gathering data. Is that ok with you?
For years, our greatest enemy (China) has been aligning themselves with Maduro and it is reasonable to assume that would continue based on the proximity of Venezuela to the US and the resources available in that country.
Is that ok in your minds? What if China put missiles in Venezuela like the situation that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis? Do we wait until that happens and then figure out how to react?
Our previous president didn't do anything to address this threat, even when China put a balloon in our country gathering data. Is that ok with you?
So only the people with guns and resources? Glad it’s that easy. The US will have to be on the ground there to effect any real change- the cartels aren’t going to stop because an enabling politician is replaced. Glad El Presidente is keeping us out of foreign wars.
I am not against taking the guy out as long as people are aware it’s the first step in a 12 mile hike. Simple minds look for simple solutions.
Sounds like the Russian argument for the Ukraine, Georgia, Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland.
or China’s argument for Taiwan, and parts of Japan and the Philippines.
Thinking of this as simply a round of the Risk board game is a bit simple.
Wait, wait, wait ... so, there was a balloon floating over our country ... therefore, we pretend we care Venezuela is bringing drugs into this country to blow up some boats as a pretext to regime change in ... Venezuela?
You guys have given up even attempting to make sense. Just be good little Nazis and say "It is because our cult leader says it is. Heil Trump. If tomorrow, Trump wants to say Venezuela is our best ally, it will be so. If the day after, he says they're our biggest enemy, it will be so. Whatever dear leader wants. We are not allowed to think for ourselves."
So, now, with regard to anyone that China doesn't hate ... the Fuhrer can just claim they're a security threat and unilaterally, with no checks, balances, authorizations, etc. ... do whatever he wants with/to them?
You didn't answer my question.
Sad person who can only attack the person asking without providing an answer.
You didn't answer the question directly but you seem to be saying that we should do nothing and hope things turn out ok.
In counterpoint to what you did post, none of the countries you reference (Ukraine, Georgia, Slovakia, Poland, Lithuania, etc) have opening stated that they want to take over other countries. Russia has stated they want the USSR back and China is actively pursuing the 100-years war.
When you need to win an argument and all else fails, just pull out your LibsofTikTok bible and falsely claim that dEms aRe cUtTinG oFf cHiLd WiEnErS!
I would think a reasonably intelligent individual would be able to deduce what my answers would be to your questions, which I didn't think even warranted a response, as they were non-serious.
But, here ...
"OK"? Define "OK." "OK" meaning it's preferred? No. "OK" as in not being OK requires immediate military intervention? Yes. It is what it is. Countries we don't like will have allies, countries they do business with, etc. It happens. We don't destroy any country that talks to a country we don't like.
This is a silly "what if" because there's no indication anything like this was on the table, even in the longer term. But, just for poops and giggles, I'd say, it depends on what else is happening and what actually led up to it. Far too speculative a hypothetical situation to give specific actions and reactions. We can't just go around taking over every country that might eventually have Chinese missiles in it. We may as well just take over every country. Wouldn't that be just peachy keen?
I already addressed the overly speculative nature of this line of questioning, so there's not much to say here ... I'm going to assume we would have done things - diplomatically, economically, militarily - before that happened that would shed better light on next steps there. But, again, this is silly ... from where we're at, to then jump to "Chinese missiles in Venezuela." You can justify all sorts of evil with that line of thinking. As someone else said ... this is Putin-level dictator crap ... probably worse, since there's such a small connection/possibility here. It's insane that this is happening at the whim of an American president. More insane folks like you support it. Did you ever think you'd become a Nazi/fascist? Do you not realize that's what you are?
So, one country floating a balloon justifies taking over a completely separate country? What was the president supposed to do? You have no logical connections here, so it's impossible to speak on this, logically.
Someone obviously cut off these "guys'" wieners .. and lobotomized them. It's a sensitive subject for them ... ain't that right, @tigergray?
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