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inWV

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There’s so many things wrong with your logic but I’ve discussed this multiple times in other threads. It isn’t “symping” to point out illogical conjecture about what was going on with our RB room. EJ looks great this year. He had some issues as a young back just the same as Mozee and Nelson were swimming in it this year. EJ’s pass pro was bad and he danced around instead of getting north and south. He’s gotten immensely better. Maybe some of that was coaching😉
The sentiment seems to be that Nelson and Mozee suck because they didn't play much. Did Abdullah suck when he got scrap carries as a freshman? So the running backs suck and Barthel sucks. So far, Barthel coached a kid who didn't even get scrap carries at Oregon and he became a very effective short yardage back that I would love to still have on the roster. He coached EJ for three years and the kid is playing at an All American level. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Nelson and Mozee can do in the bowl game.
 

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Fluffing Penn State at the pressser in the lead-up to the Minneosta debacle was total dogshit.

"Im the Head Coach at Nebraska. Im focused on Minnesota. I'll take any questions about the game now."

NOT difficult.
Completely agree. He has no problems blatantly and bluntly directing the conversations away from Dylan's status with the program and with Dylan's weight, but he sure did get a nice jerk sesh underneath the podium that Monday of Minnesota week when he should have blatantly and bluntly said "I wish Penn State the best of luck in their coaching search. We have a short week this week and I am focused on Minnesota, a tough opponent that Nebraska has not performed well against since joining the conference and I am also winless against them. As I've said many many times, every conference game is a very tough game and we expect this to be a one-score game. So if there's any other questions you have regarding the program, players, or our opponent this week, I am here for them. If not, I got work to do."
 

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Well, that ain’t happening. 🥴
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There’s so many things wrong with your logic but I’ve discussed this multiple times in other threads. It isn’t “symping” to point out illogical conjecture about what was going on with our RB room. EJ looks great this year. He had some issues as a young back just the same as Mozee and Nelson were swimming in it this year. EJ’s pass pro was bad and he danced around instead of getting north and south. He’s gotten immensely better. Maybe some of that was coaching😉
Mozee is swimming in it because he's a wr converted to rb. Nelson is swimming in it because he was recruited by Bowling Green, Uconn, and Umass and played hs in Connecticut. Many people were calling for EJ to play more immediately after seeing him actually play. Well, everyone but Barthel and Satterfield. I have no doubt that EJ would have lit it up for another school this year if Holgerson wasn't hired. Barthel wasn't going to play him.
 

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What, you think all of his misses on MULTIPLE hirings so far have been because he didn't have the money to spend? Or that he couldn't hire whoever he wanted?
Once the perception that the HC is on a short leash spreads, it becomes more difficult to get good assts hired.
No good coach wants to move his family again in two years.
Especially when you have kids in elementary/middle school.

BTW: All these changes have nothing to do with HCMR continually using timeouts in the 3rd quarter of games.
 
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No, that is not what I think.

I think Dannen is likely forcing his hand now.
That doesn't make much sense to me. Dannen didn't hire Rhule, if he wanted Rhule gone why would he have extended his deal? If Penn St was a real option, he could have just let him go. Then he could have hired his guy and had a reset of his own.
 

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This is my biggest struggle with Rhule. The hiring has been atrocious. The turnover we have had in the staff is crazy. Not saying we didn’t need new guys but would have been better to have the right guys to begin with. Any lack of success in these firings is directly tied to Rhule’s hiring decisions IMO.
"You just got to give him time. He is the best coach ever. He is trying to find the right people and will someday. I don't care if it takes a decade. Rhule is just getting this thing rolling. My god people, have some patience"
 
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This is my biggest struggle with Nebraska fans, I’m not saying it’s you in particular, but seeing the complaint on staff turnover, but all the complaining that we need to fire Matt or Donnie or whoever else it is… then it happens and we complain about the turnover… there’s a tad bit of irony in all of that… kinda like theres no way to please the fan base
Winning games and not getting absolutely embarrassed pleases the fan base.
 
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dinglefritz

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Mozee is swimming in it because he's a wr converted to rb. Nelson is swimming in it because he was recruited by Bowling Green, Uconn, and Umass and played hs in Connecticut. Many people were calling for EJ to play more immediately after seeing him actually play. Well, everyone but Barthel and Satterfield. I have no doubt that EJ would have lit it up for another school this year if Holgerson wasn't hired. Barthel wasn't going to play him.
There have been multiple guys play on Sundays at RB who went to directional schools. Some didn’t play RB in college. I’m not worried about Nelson’s offers. They were similar to EJ’s.
 
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There have been multiple guys play on Sundays at RB who went to directional schools. Some didn’t play RB in college. I’m not worried about Nelson’s offers. They were similar to EJ’s.
EJ was not offered by the instate Gophers. He was offered by NU, CMU, EMU, Mont St, N. Iowa, SDU, and NDU. So the offers were directional, 1-AA and NU sticking out like a sore thumb. It's either Ron making one of the bigger diamond in the rough finds of his career, or Ron realizing the recruiting class needed an RB and he was going to get the best one he could find in the time allowed. I suspect Ron thought he got a steal, but Ron probably didn't envision EJ doing what he did this season.
Nelson and Mozee play with effort. I haven't seen much in terms of deer in the headlights from them.
 

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I'm not for keeping something that's not working. The firings this year make sense. It's more the chance of a culture shift that causes a team to end up lost. Saban has a system, and I think everyone is in step with him and he has the history to prove that. I'm just not sure in the portal era with many new players every year that your foundation/culture is that unbreakable anymore.
Well we still have the culture/foundation of a team that ***** the bed in November. The culture does still need a massive shift if this program is ever going to be relevant in the playoff era.
 

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If so, that's yet another indictment against Rhule.
Keep looking for things to criticize Rhule for. There have to be more.🙄. Are you a better high school coach now than you were your first year? Hiring that kid wasn’t ideal but Rhule was thrown a curve ball at the last minute and needed a body.
 
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Well we still have the culture/foundation of a team that ***** the bed in November. The culture does still need a massive shift if this program is ever going to be relevant in the playoff era.
Some of the November collapse has been the teams we’ve played in that month. Tom had a few issues in November too at times when the schedule turned to Mizzou, CU and OU. Take heart though. With next years schedule, I expect us to sh## the bed long before November. So we have that going for us….🤔
 

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I still say there were factors outside of Donnie’s control that affected the product on the field. Not once did I say I would criticize Rhule for firing him. I posted many times that most of us including myself aren’t qualified to judge an O line coach. I still believe that. Now IF Stai or guys like him come out and trash him that’s a different story. I never heard that from anybody i thought really knew what they were talking about.

That said, the Raiola Husker legacy no doubt was a factor in his retention but coaching the O line isn’t rocket science. I really don’t think a different O line coach would have improved the play much. It’s kind of ironic though that the same incestuous warm and fuzzy feelings for former players and coaches might have contributed to mediocre on field performance. Now we get to see.
BS, there you go making excuse after excuse again and some lame ad hominem fallacy. Anyone with half a brain can see that Donnie was a failure, being the longest tenured on the staff and putting out a **** product year after year for 4 years. I know you like to pretend to be dumber than you are, but that was the most moronic post I've read here in quite some time.
 
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BS, there you go making excuse after excuse again and some lame ad hominem fallacy. Anyone with half a brain can see that Donnie was a failure, being the longest tenured on the staff and putting out a **** product year after year for 4 years. I know you like to pretend to be dumber than you are, but that was the most moronic post I've read here in quite some time.
Excuses? Facts.
 
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The sentiment seems to be that Nelson and Mozee suck because they didn't play much. Did Abdullah suck when he got scrap carries as a freshman? So the running backs suck and Barthel sucks. So far, Barthel coached a kid who didn't even get scrap carries at Oregon and he became a very effective short yardage back that I would love to still have on the roster. He coached EJ for three years and the kid is playing at an All American level. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what Nelson and Mozee can do in the bowl game.
Do you guys ever get tired of spewing BS? Dowdell was a true freshman at Oregon and earned a significant amount of carries. He was known to have a lot of talent since high school. That we could only hold on to him for a year and that Emmett himself entered the transfer portal last year is yet another indictment on Barthel. Emmett's emergence has nothing to do with Barthel.
 

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Do you guys ever get tired of spewing BS? Dowdell was a true freshman at Oregon and earned a significant amount of carries. He was known to have a lot of talent since high school. That we could only hold on to him for a year and that Emmett himself entered the transfer portal last year is yet another indictment on Barthel. Emmett's emergence has nothing to do with Barthel.

EJ tested the NIL market. Thank God we upped his NIL offer and persuaded him to come back. Dowdell got more than we were willing or able to pay him.
 
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Do you guys ever get tired of spewing BS? Dowdell was a true freshman at Oregon and earned a significant amount of carries. He was known to have a lot of talent since high school. That we could only hold on to him for a year and that Emmett himself entered the transfer portal last year is yet another indictment on Barthel. Emmett's emergence has nothing to do with Barthel.
17 carries for 90 yards over 6 games is "significant"?
17905.3113
 
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Shorts >McGuire as a WR coach. McGuire didn't want to share WR job, so he went to be RB coach for his dad. I think he will be a fine coach, but if Holgersen chose Shorts over McGuire that isn't an indictment on Rhule
It's an indictment on Rhule that McGuire went somewhere else and immediately started looking competent as a coach.
 

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For a true freshman at Oregon, yes, it's very significant. They obviously liked him and gave him a shot.
Looks like mop up duty in blow out wins to me. He could see the writing on the wall so he hit the portal to find a place where he could play.
 
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There have been multiple guys play on Sundays at RB who went to directional schools. Some didn’t play RB in college. I’m not worried about Nelson’s offers. They were similar to EJ’s.
Zoom out and look at EJ. He ran for 2,500 yards and 42 tds as just a senior and was recognized as the top player in MN. 247 even did a great job of projecting him as a quality starter. EJ was missed by everyone, including Barthel, but Ron Brown and Dana Holgerson.
 
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Looks like mop up duty in blow out wins to me. He could see the writing on the wall so he hit the portal to find a place where he could play.
Dowdell and his family were disgusted that Lanning burned his redshirt for no reason. Doesn't appear he was staying no matter what happened.
 
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Do you guys ever get tired of spewing BS? Dowdell was a true freshman at Oregon and earned a significant amount of carries. He was known to have a lot of talent since high school. That we could only hold on to him for a year and that Emmett himself entered the transfer portal last year is yet another indictment on Barthel. Emmett's emergence has nothing to do with Barthel.
Do you ever get tired of not using the internet? Dowdell averaged 3 carries per game in the six games he played. So he got scrap carries in blowout games his freshman year at Oregon. Look at his stat sheet from that season. As far as EJ and Barthel are concerned, some of you think coaches delight in putting players on the bench that clearly could be helping them. Or somehow they are much dumber than you and can't see the true value in the player they watch practice every day. In truth, EJ exhibited talent early, but was far from the complete back he now is. He initially played behind more experience players his RS freshman year but was promoted when two of them were lost for the season, and ended up outplaying Grant. His next year he was the second back in an offense that was trying to be more downhill. He became the lead back when Holgerson took over, and Holgerson's approach has no doubt aided his stat sheet.
EJ has shown consistent improvement in the three years he has played. He has had one coach during this time and that is Barthel. So to review, Barthel coached a kid who portaled from Oregon and that kid became an effective power running back who was great in short yardage situations. He also coached a kid with a pretty thin offer sheet and that kid became an All-American level running back. In truth, there are a number of RB coaches who could do as good or better job than Barthel. One of them shows up to Memorial Stadium on Mondays and his name is Ron Brown. I just think the jihad against Barthel on the part of some posters is pretty half-a**ed.
 

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I have doubts that a random X account called "Rhuler of Neb" is a legitimate source of insider information.
For sure, just posting what I read.

One thing that I think is for sure is he's not going to LSU.

Apparently A&M is in the mix too
 

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Do you ever get tired of not using the internet? Dowdell averaged 3 carries per game in the six games he played. So he got scrap carries in blowout games his freshman year at Oregon. Look at his stat sheet from that season. As far as EJ and Barthel are concerned, some of you think coaches delight in putting players on the bench that clearly could be helping them. Or somehow they are much dumber than you and can't see the true value in the player they watch practice every day. In truth, EJ exhibited talent early, but was far from the complete back he now is. He initially played behind more experience players his RS freshman year but was promoted when two of them were lost for the season, and ended up outplaying Grant. His next year he was the second back in an offense that was trying to be more downhill. He became the lead back when Holgerson took over, and Holgerson's approach has no doubt aided his stat sheet.
EJ has shown consistent improvement in the three years he has played. He has had one coach during this time and that is Barthel. So to review, Barthel coached a kid who portaled from Oregon and that kid became an effective power running back who was great in short yardage situations. He also coached a kid with a pretty thin offer sheet and that kid became an All-American level running back. In truth, there are a number of RB coaches who could do as good or better job than Barthel. One of them shows up to Memorial Stadium on Mondays and his name is Ron Brown. I just think the jihad against Barthel on the part of some posters is pretty half-a**ed.
Dowdell already looked extremely impressive in his senior film and even in his limited time at Oregon. And a true freshman getting any playing time is significant. Barthel has nothing to do with Dowdell or EJ's talent level.

And all you have to say is "there are a number of coaches who could do a better job than Barthel". Well if that's true, then we should be canning Barthel and then bringing one of those coaches into Lincoln. I don't see why there's the need to defend mediocre or lesser coaches on this staff. It takes winning coaches to produce winning results. And especially for a program that was once known as RB U, it's cowardly to settle for mediocre results.
 

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Dowdell already looked extremely impressive in his senior film and even in his limited time at Oregon. And a true freshman getting any playing time is significant. Barthel has nothing to do with Dowdell or EJ's talent level.

And all you have to say is "there are a number of coaches who could do a better job than Barthel". Well if that's true, then we should be canning Barthel and then bringing one of those coaches into Lincoln. I don't see why there's the need to defend mediocre or lesser coaches on this staff. It takes winning coaches to produce winning results. And especially for a program that was once known as RB U, it's cowardly to settle for mediocre results.
There are coaches equal or better than Barthel does not equal Barthel is mediocre and should be fired. As far as the first part, there are plenty of talented kids who join college rosters that either can't master the extra stuff needed to see the field, or don't care to. Eventually they don't play or have limited usage. Coaches get them ready to see the field. You want to believe that EJ and Dowdell showed up ready to go out of the box and Barthel either had nothing to do with getting them ready to play Big Ten football, or didn't use them right.
I encourage you to look at Dowdell's game stats at Oregon in 2023. See what kind of games he played in and when he played in them. Pure scrap carries.
 
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Do you ever get tired of not using the internet? Dowdell averaged 3 carries per game in the six games he played. So he got scrap carries in blowout games his freshman year at Oregon. Look at his stat sheet from that season. As far as EJ and Barthel are concerned, some of you think coaches delight in putting players on the bench that clearly could be helping them. Or somehow they are much dumber than you and can't see the true value in the player they watch practice every day. In truth, EJ exhibited talent early, but was far from the complete back he now is. He initially played behind more experience players his RS freshman year but was promoted when two of them were lost for the season, and ended up outplaying Grant. His next year he was the second back in an offense that was trying to be more downhill. He became the lead back when Holgerson took over, and Holgerson's approach has no doubt aided his stat sheet.
EJ has shown consistent improvement in the three years he has played. He has had one coach during this time and that is Barthel. So to review, Barthel coached a kid who portaled from Oregon and that kid became an effective power running back who was great in short yardage situations. He also coached a kid with a pretty thin offer sheet and that kid became an All-American level running back. In truth, there are a number of RB coaches who could do as good or better job than Barthel. One of them shows up to Memorial Stadium on Mondays and his name is Ron Brown. I just think the jihad against Barthel on the part of some posters is pretty half-a**ed.
Dowdell was a very highly recruited back that was buried in a legit rb room. I don't think his short yardage production was a result of Barthel.

Rhule after 3 years, has almost a complete staff of legit coaches. It's pretty easy to see that the rb room isn't cutting it. List Barthels rb recruits: Ives, Nelson, Parker, Booth, and Dowdell. Seems to be a disturbing trend of under recruited east coast backs. Which would be fine if they actually produced.

Who is our #2 next year, let alone our #1? Nelson? Mozee? Season ending injury to whoever we get in the portal, who is our bell cow?
 
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I can understand not wanting to jump on the “let’s fire the next guy” bandwagon. But that doesn’t mean you have to simp for the guy.

The ONLY thing going for him is that EJ was great
The running backs coach, for the junior running back who just won running back of the year in the big 10, with the offensive line who's coach just got fired, didn't get fired. This is the rebuttal this year to any reasoning that he should have been let go. Nothing to see here. Let's see what he does next year. All of the micro-critique arguments in the world can be put on hold until half time of the first game next year regarding this coach.
 
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Dowdell was a very highly recruited back that was buried in a legit rb room. I don't think his short yardage production was a result of Barthel.

Rhule after 3 years, has almost a complete staff of legit coaches. It's pretty easy to see that the rb room isn't cutting it. List Barthels rb recruits: Ives, Nelson, Parker, Booth, and Dowdell. Seems to be a disturbing trend of under recruited east coast backs. Which would be fine if they actually produced.

Who is our #2 next year, let alone our #1? Nelson? Mozee? Season ending injury to whoever we get in the portal, who is our bell cow?
Rule might have a say on that depth chart. When was the last time a RB picked us over Miami?
 

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There are coaches equal or better than Barthel does not equal Barthel is mediocre and should be fired. As far as the first part, there are plenty of talented kids who join college rosters that either can't master the extra stuff needed to see the field, or don't care to. Eventually they don't play or have limited usage. Coaches get them ready to see the field. You want to believe that EJ and Dowdell showed up ready to go out of the box and Barthel either had nothing to do with getting them ready to play Big Ten football, or didn't use them right.
I encourage you to look at Dowdell's game stats at Oregon in 2023. See what kind of games he played in and when he played in them. Pure scrap carries.
Dowdell was a true freshman at Oregon. How many times does this need to be emphasized? Any amount of carries as a true freshman is impressive and demonstrates that the coaches have trust and see potential in you.

Barthel is mediocre at best and that has been demonstrated quite plainly in both his coaching and recruiting efforts. Forget even individual performances, and look at the team rushing performances (excluding Haarberg) since he has been here. It hasn't been impressive.
 
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Dowdell was a true freshman at Oregon. How many times does this need to be emphasized? Any amount of carries as a true freshman is impressive and demonstrates that the coaches have trust and see potential in you.

Barthel is mediocre at best and that has been demonstrated quite plainly in both his coaching and recruiting efforts. Forget even individual performances, and look at the team rushing performances (excluding Haarberg) since he has been here. It hasn't been impressive.
Keep beating the drum. 🤣
 

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The running backs coach, for the junior running back who just won running back of the year in the big 10, with the offensive line who's coach just got fired, didn't get fired. This is the rebuttal this year to any reasoning that he should have been let go. Nothing to see here. Let's see what he does next year. All of the micro-critique arguments in the world can be put on hold until half time of the first game next year regarding this coach.
Team rushing offense was 10th in the conference this year, and 11th last year. Definition of mediocre.
 

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Dowdell was a very highly recruited back that was buried in a legit rb room. I don't think his short yardage production was a result of Barthel.

Rhule after 3 years, has almost a complete staff of legit coaches. It's pretty easy to see that the rb room isn't cutting it. List Barthels rb recruits: Ives, Nelson, Parker, Booth, and Dowdell. Seems to be a disturbing trend of under recruited east coast backs. Which would be fine if they actually produced.

Who is our #2 next year, let alone our #1? Nelson? Mozee? Season ending injury to whoever we get in the portal, who is our bell cow?
Dowdell was on a milk carton in terms of news out of spring ball in 2024 and didn't really pop until into fall camp. I remember being a bit surprised that he was starting. So there were things for him to get up to speed on before he was going to get the reps he obviously got. I'm seeing a pattern on the board. The role of a position coach in terms of the success of a player is purely based on what the poster thinks of the coach.
I'm sure the coaches are looking at what's accruing in the portal as far as RB talent. But Rhule, when asked about Mozee and Nelson, does nothing but exude confidence in them being ready to play. I guess we get to see if that confidence is misplaced.
 
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