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Game Thread: Northwestern vs. Illinois
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Welp without Stone we win zero games because there is nobody standing there to catch the snap when the center throws it and it’s just a fumble every play
Whether you’re still a fan of Pat Fitzgerald or not, it is time for Northwestern to completely move on from his program and clean house of these coaches entirely. It’s time to bring in a new organization.
How many games do we win if the defense is better? How many games do we win if the OL is better? How many games do we win if our WRs aren’t FCS level?
Nebraska and tonight were the two I think feel squarely on his mistakes. Of course, he was awesome vs MN and deserves much credit for that win. Tulane he was horrible but I’m unsure if better QB is enough, we just got wrecked all over the place.
he was so up and down. He was almost never a “very below average but barely adequate quarterback,” he was usually pretty horrible or totally solid
I mean...Wilde is superb and he came from FCS.
I didn't hate the defense this season given how much time they spent on the field.
If Kolomafe had played tonight then he our OL would have blocked for a 1,000-yard season rusher.
We're just a liiiittle short in every category. Hot and cold QB. Green head coach, green OC, relatively green DC if we're being honest. Depleted backfield. Late to the party on recruiting and NIL.
I mean, that’s silly, the comparison is with a different transfer (or Lausch, but mostly a transfer)
He averaged 167 yards passing per game and had as many picks as he had TDs (8) in B1G play. Pedestrian QB play would win us the Michigan and Illinois games.
It is far from his fault alone (if Lujan isn't gone this offseason god help us), but he had a really terrible year.
Even Preckel and Himon would have been very different, we’d have busted more long runs with the blocking we did have.
I actually think we got solidly pedestrian and respectable QB play against Michigan, an extremely extremely good defense that slowed down even OSU’s receivers today, much less our guys.
I’ve been one of his biggest defenders all year. You’re being silly. He was bad tonight. He was bad a lot of nights. He was also good some nights. He was weirdly rarely in between. Honestly he was good in the first half and then a switch just flipped. On net, he was quite a poor P4 QB this year, but he was good enough a could have times that we had a good year. And his best game was the biggest game of the year to me by far! So that’s nice
Tough loss. Stone obviously forced too many throws. Being down Komo and Himon put us in a ridiculous position. STILL I felt we should've won
The turnovers by Stone were killers. We definitely should've scored more in this game. Oh well. Are we destined for Detroit? That kinda sucks. Hope we beat whoever we play but that's a letdown in Motown if we end up there.
The turnovers by Stone were killers. We definitely should've scored more in this game. Oh well. Are we destined for Detroit? That kinda sucks. Hope we beat whoever we play but that's a letdown in Motown if we end up there.
We almost have MAC caliber talent at some positions it seems at times. This is really getting old. It is going to be hard filling up the new stadium with this kind of stuff, especially if there is indeed a severe economic downturn in the near future.
Fitz is the problem for this team? You realize he has been gone for 3 seasons. That is a lifetime these days.
OK...a more reasonable, less pissed poster than I suggested this above, and after some thought I agree ,- - if the thrill of being 6-6 and in a crappy bowl is to get practice etc. for next year, why play Stone in the Bowl? Play Boe or Lettuce and move on. Look ahead to next year and see what you have. No one gives a shiite whether we win the Detroit Bowl and finish 7-6 or lose and finish 6-7. And we owe Stone nothing. He was paid what he was paid for an opportunity, and he performed as he performed. We will always have the 2d half of Wrigley...and the other performances that made him medicocre at best.
Dude…stop. Just last week you were calling players “r*t*rds”. Gimme a break with this “I’ve been his defender” crap.
Chase Farrell shouldn’t have been so ******* stupid if he didn’t want to get a hard r slapped on him.
You will be hard pressed to find more than like two other people on any major NU sight who has been more supportive of Stone. He wasn’t very good. But he wasn’t as bad as many said.
This is a terrible take. 7-6 versus 6-7 does matter. The media will say over and over “winning season” versus “losing season” and will bunch you in those buckets which matters for program perception and that matters for preseason polls (which equates to exposure) and recruiting (recruits want to be on a team that is stock up).
The players care if they win the bowl game and there’s no way a coaching staff will(or should) play to get ready for next year as that’s unfair to the players who busted their asses all year and want to win the bowl game. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous. You play to win the bowl game and if Stone gives you the best chance then you play him.
Also the players currently on the team give a big **** and deserve to play a good game. Guys are gonna want to come to NU if their coach just decides to punt on the last football game they maybe ever play? Dogshit, laughable take. Beyond ridiculous.
My sentiments exactly!!!! Go out and get a proven winner at the Division 1A level, along with an innovative OC that can win games and bring in the talent needed to get a real program going. I mean since Clayton left, we have had a bunch of scrubs at QB, all of them transfers. Only Ramsey panned out and that was only for one season. Do you really think Braun is going to sign a great QB, etc with this offensive system? You need an innovator and motivator. Obviously Braun isn't either. I think Braun is a decent coach, but it will take more than a decent coach to turn around a floundering program. Why would talented kids want to come into this mess? They all want to make $$$$$ and get into the NFL.
Our D gave up 14 first downs, less than 300 yards in total offensive, almost 100 yards below their average. That should be enough to win. I think we definitely need a new look at OC next year.
You are also confused. That guy I was talking to is insisting Stone is a just amazing QB, the only reason we didn’t win only 2 games. And you’re here talking about Lujan
Play Boe and any other QB on the roster to see what you have to work with for next season. Hopefully, we can find a diamond in the rough. I am tired of the portal. It only payed NU dividends for one season. This staff doesn't impress real QB talent, thus the inadequate play of any of our recruits at that position. And why is that? The offensive system is vanilla for the most part. At least get a real innovative OC that can bring in some 4-5 star QB talent in!
Yeah, that's not going to happen. Maybe three years from now if things go mostly downhill from here, but not sooner.
Correct, I am definitely confused. But the facts are the facts. When games were on the line we couldn't score to win.
Well,if it were a prestige Bowl that would garner NU respect, I get it. But as to lower Bowls I have heard on here the repeated "good for the additional practices" argument, but really don't care how a one-and-done contractor who will not be here next year does in additional practices.
Very disappointing game. Turnovers killed us in the 2nd but the key turnover was the tipped pass int in our drive that Illini turned into a quick drive to take the lead at half. Just think that turnover changed the game, once we lost the lead we seemed to lose our mojo and never recovered. Losing most of our backs for the game and having limited “backs-up” was a big gap for the offense. A glass half-full regular season. We were competitive most games, and probably over-performed as many board members including me did not expect them to go 6-6 or better. It will be interesting to see what coaching moves will be made during the off-season. Competing for players from the portal is going to be brutal, especially for qb’s. Did we really give Stone $1M to play for NU?
You say that as if all we have to do is snap our fingers and make it happen.
If you’re holding a couple million dollars in your hand, then yes this is actually all you really need to do to make this happen.
Yes, but the coaching staff and entire football office is still littered with his hires. Heck.... David Braun is a Fitz hire. I just wonder if it's time for something entirely different.
At NU!!!?? Bwahahahaha!! Not even close. We have nothing to offer that other P5 school can’t match.
Your defense of your Farrell comment here says a lot about you.