I’m granting Steve a Mulligan for this year

PSAL_Hoops

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that’s totally on him. As PSAL rightly pointed out, he went with offense when he could have gotten solid defenders for the same cost.

also, he had some bad luck with the 23-24 team and the summer surgery/illness/injuries to Dylan.
It’s wasn’t about the money. We brought in the wrong types f players. Lathan was a disaster. Jordan, PJ and Acuff were not good fits either. Not a lick of defense. Replace those 4 with Buchanan, Fall, Nwuli and Tariq - I’m going out on a limb and saying we’re making the tournament and it’s not costing more. And I haven even seen our new guys but I’ve heard enough about their style of play. We needed those types of kids to balance the ticket. Guys who will fight for every loose ball.

Pike thought he needed scorers to make sure Dylan and Ace wouldn’t get doubled and could thrive in his program and put up video game stats. He accomplished that feat - but with a losing team.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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Yes I follow basketball, have you followed basketball? Doesn’t seem like it. Do you see the caliber of players we’re recruiting? Have you compared to the caliber of players the competition is recruiting? How can anyone expect us to successfully compete?

You don’t seem to understand the competitive recruiting environment Rutgers faced pre NIL. Players were paid under the table pre NIL. St John’s paid players. Villanova paid players. Seton Hall paid players. Our big ten peers, especially Michigan, paid players.

Despite this adverse environment, Pike built competitive teams which went to the NCAA’s, thanks to hitting three moonshots in Harper, Baker, and Macconnell.

NIL deals became legal to kids July 2021. This really didn’t impact us, since we didn’t have much NIL. But As NIL has become more of a thing it has become harder and harder to recruit, because the moonshots we’ve been recruiting haven’t panned out.

And not having competitive NIL support cost us a chance to keep Spencer for the ‘24 Season, one of the transfers that worked out, and consequently cost us a chance at the tournament.
instead Spencer led UConn to a National Championship.

NIL deals became legal to kids July 2021. This really didn’t impact us, since we didn’t have much NIL. Amounts that used to be paid under the table were now paid legally. So it isn’t surprising to see our classes struggle, because we continue to recruit moonshots, class after class, because we don’t have the support to recruit better players.
Players being paid has been going on for decades and it doesn't explain the piss poor talent evaluation that led to taking commits from Jalen Miller, Dean Reiber and Oskar Palmquist for example or how highly ranked recruits like Jaden Jones or Gavin Griffiths never made a mark.

Just like in football coaching and talent evaluation mean a lot. But go ahead and continue to spam us with these ChatGPT word salads.
 

RUDiddy777

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Players being paid has been going on for decades and it doesn't explain the piss poor talent evaluation that led to taking commits from Jalen Miller, Dean Reiber and Oskar Palmquist for example or how highly ranked recruits like Jaden Jones or Gavin Griffiths never made a mark.

Just like in football coaching and talent evaluation mean a lot. But go ahead and continue to spam us with these ChatGPT word salads.

I don’t blame Pike for Gavin or Jaden (I think we can all agree that situation was just weird). Lots of people missed on Gavin.

Oskar was a 2019 and Jalen 2021 when we were still a team that was decades removed from the tourney - so I’ll cut Pike some slack, he still managed some good players in most of those classes.

It still has to get better, 23-24 was just a joyless season and 24-25 was a massive disappointment. 2 more seasons without much fun or cause for optimism and it will be time to change direction.
 
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RUDiddy777

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It’s wasn’t about the money. We brought in the wrong types f players. Lathan was a disaster. Jordan, PJ and Acuff were not good fits either. Not a lick of defense. Replace those 4 with Buchanan, Fall, Nwuli and Tariq - I’m going out on a limb and saying we’re making the tournament and it’s not costing more. And I haven even seen our new guys but I’ve heard enough about their style of play. We needed those types of kids to balance the ticket. Guys who will fight for every loose ball.

Pike thought he needed scorers to make sure Dylan and Ace wouldn’t get doubled and could thrive in his program and put up video game stats. He accomplished that feat - but with a losing team.

I’ll be happy to get back to that. The defensive stand to get back into the USC game was probably the most fun I had last season and it seemed like that was the most electric crowd all season. As much fun as it was to watch elite talents like Ace and Dylan do “holy crap did you see that” things, I think watching a lunchpail team take the soul of a more talented team is just better.
 

RedTeamUpstream94

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You know what’s needed for excitement?

M-O-N-E-Y

we don’t have enough, so our ceiling is limited.
If the fanbase want to win, they have to pony up.

youre not wrong.

but youre also only half-right.

its a two-way street.

you cant expect an UNDERSTANDABLY apathetic fanbase to pony up major bucks.

at some point they are going to have to get coach(es) that do truly do less-with-more to excite the fanbase. otherwise, absent a miracle benefactor, its not gonna happen. and the longer the mediocrity continues the less likely it will be...
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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youre not wrong.

but youre also only half-right.

its a two-way street.

you cant expect an UNDERSTANDABLY apathetic fanbase to pony up major bucks.

at some point they are going to have to get coach(es) that do truly do less-with-more to excite the fanbase. otherwise, absent a miracle benefactor, its not gonna happen. and the longer the mediocrity continues the less likely it will be...
Either you play like the big boys or you’re doomed to failure. The longer you wait the more you fall behind in the current environment

Plus it’s not like people give even when RU wins, no major cash infusion when football was winning in 1.0, no major money when Pike went to several straight NCAAs after a 30 year drought, same with wrestling when the produce to national champions.
 

RedTeamUpstream94

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Either you play like the big boys or you’re doomed to failure. The longer you wait the more you fall behind in the current environment

Plus it’s not like people give even when RU wins, no major cash infusion when football was winning in 1.0, no major money when Pike went to several straight NCAAs after a 30 year drought, same with wrestling when the produce to national champions.

so we are likely doomed?

cant say I disagree.

however - I am not sure the examples of "success" you provided (GS 1.0 or Pikes success) are really great examples....not really going to excite any fanbase, really.

GS 1.0 was a lifetime ago during a much different world (waaaaay before the NIL era when the need for $$$$ from the fanbase was a not like it is today)

and Pike's "success".... 1 NCAA win. to most fanbases rather than a measure of "success", that's utter failure. I am not crapping on Pike but thats just reality. 2 NCAAs and 1 win in how many years? and then a pretty steady decline into mediocrity once again.

neither is a good example of "success" that would excite ANY fanbase to give $$$$.

will we ever get lightening in a bottle and get coach(es) that do less with more to really bring JUICE and $$$ to these programs? I dont know. but IMHO, absent a miracle benefactor, thats the only way to get us out of this hole we seem to be in
 
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-RUFAN4LIFE-

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so we are likely doomed?

cant say I disagree.

however - I am not sure the examples of "success" you provided (GS 1.0 or Pikes success) are really great examples....not really going to excite any fanbase, really.

GS 1.0 was a lifetime ago during a much different world (waaaaay before the NIL era when the need for $$$$ from the fanbase was a not like it is today)

and Pike's "success".... 1 NCAA win. to most fanbases rather than a measure of "success", that's utter failure. I am not crapping on Pike but thats just reality. 2 NCAAs and 1 win in how many years? and then a pretty steady decline into mediocrity once again.

neither is a good example of "success" that would excite ANY fanbase to give $$$$.

will we ever get lightening in a bottle and get coach(es) that do less with more to really bring JUICE and $$$ to these programs? I dont know. but IMHO, absent a miracle benefactor, thats the only way to get us out of this hole we seem to be in
This is the exact attitude that dooms RU, I provided periods where they were winning and now you’re moving the goal posts and saying it needs to be more.

I mean SHI was hosting games with 40-45k seats filled every game and the RAC is still carrying a sellout streak that was started by Pike turning the program around. Those won’t happen without winning and the fan base was excited during those periods.

Additionally it doesn’t matter that NIL wasn’t a factor in 1.0, money was still needed to upgrade facilities across the board.

You basically want to thrive on the cheap still when the various programs are facing off against rosters with a lot more talent on them due to NIL. You’re not going to punch above your weight often in this current environment when opposing rosters get better every year while RU fans wait for their Miracle on Ice moment that will never come.
 

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This is the exact attitude that dooms RU, I provided periods where they were winning and now you’re moving the goal posts and saying it needs to be more.

not trying to argue with you but, honestly, I think your perspective is why people laugh at Rutgers fans.

you think the "success" of the football and basketball programs should have inspired people to open their wallets? I think the lack of success (as measured by ALMOST ANY OTHER FANBASE) is one of the reasons for the lackluster $$$ coming in (in addition, perhaps, to RU fans being stingy)

to the fanbases of 95% of college football teams what GS accomplished in 1.0 was NOTHING. really. as RU fans (who were accustomed to the absolute basement) we thought that was 'success". and now during 2.0 - sure he got us out of the absolute basement AGAIN (to his credit for sure) - but beyond that he really has not accomplished ANYTHING. I am NOT being a pessimist/ crapping on Schiano ... but the absolute REALITY is that to 95% of college fanbases - Schianos resume so far is nothing more than rationale for him to be fired.

same with Pike - for 95% of fanbases - 2 NCAAs and 1 NCAA win (in how many years).... Pike would have been canned if the coach of 95% of other programs.

I would be curious what would happen to fan/ alum donation$$ if either the FB or BB had REAL SUCCESS (as viewed by the typical sports fan/ the fanbase of virtually every other college).

For example:

in basketball - REAL SUCCESS - consecutive DEEP RUNS in the NCAAs.

in Football - a few seasons of top 25 ball (cracking the top 15 from time to time), consistent top 25 wins, GOOD bowl games, competitive games against the OSU and Oregons of the world (with the occasional upset)

the above is what EVERY OTHER FANBASE sees as "success" - at a minimum - see recent firings of coaches that accomplished far more and STILL got canned.
 
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-RUFAN4LIFE-

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not trying to argue with you but, honestly, I think your perspective is why people laugh at Rutgers fans.

you think the "success" of the football and basketball programs should have inspired people to open their wallets? I think the lack of success (as measured by ALMOST ANY OTHER FANBASE) is one of the reasons for the lackluster $$$ coming in (in addition, perhaps, to RU fans being stingy)

to the fanbases of 95% of college football teams what GS accomplished in 1.0 was NOTHING. really. as RU fans (who were accustomed to the absolute basement) we thought that was 'success". and now during 2.0 - sure he got us out of the absolute basement AGAIN (to his credit for sure) - but beyond that he really has not accomplished ANYTHING. I am NOT being a pessimist/ crapping on Schiano ... but the absolute REALITY is that to 95% of college fanbases - Schianos resume so far is nothing more than rationale for him to be fired.

same with Pike - for 95% of fanbases - 2 NCAAs and 1 NCAA win (in how many years).... Pike would have been canned if the coach of 95% of other programs.

I would be curious what would happen to fan/ alum donation$$ if either the FB or BB had REAL SUCCESS (as viewed by the typical sports fan/ the fanbase of virtually every other college).

For example:

in basketball - REAL SUCCESS - consecutive DEEP RUNS in the NCAAs.

in Football - a few seasons of top 25 ball (cracking the top 15 from time to time), consistent top 25 wins, GOOD bowl games, competitive games against the OSU and Oregons of the world (with the occasional upset)

the above is what EVERY OTHER FANBASE sees as "success" - at a minimum - see recent firings of coaches that accomplished far more and STILL got canned.
Again thanks for proving why people like you are the issue. RU has never had the level of success that these "other" schools have had. So trying to use them as the barometer of when to give is foolish.

You would rather not start because you're waiting for RU to reach the levels of well funded programs. When you're starting from behind, you need the funds up front to change the narrative.

If you don't see the insanity in this reasoning then you and many others deserve the non-stop agony that is RU sports. Nothing is holding them back but it's own alums.
 
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Bob Chaewsky_rivals

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Pike is going to get another after this season regardless, so no need to grant him anything. My guess is he will need to make significant improvements in 2026-27 to keep his job beyond that. I’m a believer in him as a coach but he will need NIL support to make it happen. Not sure they can turn it around that quick.
He's not a very good coach, and if he wins less than 10 games he's gone.
 

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And ironically might have been his best coaching job winning 15 games with that team.

Then again still odd he let Simpson go, who carried that team. And yes I know Cliff.
Some of these kids left because they didn't believe in him. It wasn't just money.
 

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Yes I follow basketball, have you followed basketball? Doesn’t seem like it. Do you see the caliber of players we’re recruiting? Have you compared to the caliber of players the competition is recruiting? How can anyone expect us to successfully compete?

You don’t seem to understand the competitive recruiting environment Rutgers faced pre NIL. Players were paid under the table pre NIL. St John’s paid players. Villanova paid players. Seton Hall paid players. Our big ten peers, especially Michigan, paid players.

Despite this adverse environment, Pike built competitive teams which went to the NCAA’s, thanks to hitting three moonshots in Harper, Baker, and Macconnell.

NIL deals became legal to kids July 2021. This really didn’t impact us, since we didn’t have much NIL. But As NIL has become more of a thing it has become harder and harder to recruit, because the moonshots we’ve been recruiting haven’t panned out.

And not having competitive NIL support cost us a chance to keep Spencer for the ‘24 Season, one of the transfers that worked out, and consequently cost us a chance at the tournament.
instead Spencer led UConn to a National Championship.

NIL deals became legal to kids July 2021. This really didn’t impact us, since we didn’t have much NIL. Amounts that used to be paid under the table were now paid legally. So it isn’t surprising to see our classes struggle, because we continue to recruit moonshots, class after class, because we don’t have the support to recruit better players.
Dylan, Ace - caliber of players?
 

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Again thanks for proving why people like you are the issue. RU has never had the level of success that these "other" schools have had. So trying to use them as the barometer of when to give is foolish.

You would rather not start because you're waiting for RU to reach the levels of well funded programs. When you're starting from behind, you need the funds up front to change the narrative.

If you don't see the insanity in this reasoning then you and many others deserve the non-stop agony that is RU sports. Nothing is holding them back but it's own alums.
Completely disagree he is absolutely right and you and your thinking are the problem with the RU fan base. Continue to give passes to bad X and O coaches who have horrific embarrassing seasons with terrible coaching decisions in the process.

Both Greg and Pike are good coordinators for a program OR lower level coaches but neither are power 4 coaches in the modern era.

What Pike did last year was worse than any other basketball season in the last 40 years. Ppl are now saying give him a pass on this season lol. Pike great guy, defensive coordinator, but HC of a power 4 No.

Greg just continues to be a walking embarrassment. Development program lol. The good news both will be gone shortly
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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Completely disagree he is absolutely right and you and your thinking are the problem with the RU fan base. Continue to give passes to bad X and O coaches who have horrific embarrassing seasons with terrible coaching decisions in the process.

Both Greg and Pike are good coordinators for a program OR lower level coaches but neither are power 4 coaches in the modern era.

What Pike did last year was worse than any other basketball season in the last 40 years. Ppl are now saying give him a pass on this season lol. Pike great guy, defensive coordinator, but HC of a power 4 No.

Greg just continues to be a walking embarrassment. Development program lol. The good news both will be gone shortly
Fine, keep thinking that it can be done on the cheap. I mean it's worked so well around here...lol. RU fans are the classic definition of insanity when they continue to insist on the same thing that hasn't worked and expect different results especially when the landscape has dramatically changed.
 

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You know what’s needed for excitement?

M-O-N-E-Y

we don’t have enough, so our ceiling is limited.
If the fanbase want to win, they have to pony up.
The program has to win to create the money flow. Same is true at every level of sports.

We had the RAC renovation plans. Money coming in to fund it. Ncaa bid , play in game, Ace and Dylan on the way. Pike implodes the year before Ace and Dylan. Complete fails last year. Now Renovations back on the shelf.

NFL the biggest and most profitable sport with stadiums all sold out!

Indy could not build Lucas oil without Peyton.

Bills could not build its new stadium with out Josh.

Etc.

Time to get a true power 4 winning coach
 

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Do you actually follow basketball?

There was no NIL when the 2020 & 2021 classes were recruited and NIL for the 2022 class was nothing like it is today, another swing and miss.

Other than Cliff & Mag, the other 7 HS recruits were total busts or not high major players. That's a very low hit rate. And these classes were during the golden period of Pike's stint here where they made multiple NCAAs.
If you think the kids were not paid in 20220 and 2021 then your head is in the sand. They were getting paid in the late 90’s and early 2000’s when o was there.
 
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The program has to win to create the money flow. Same is true at every level of sports.

We had the RAC renovation plans. Money coming in to fund it. Ncaa bid , play in game, Ace and Dylan on the way. Pike implodes the year before Ace and Dylan. Complete fails last year. Now Renovations back on the shelf.

NFL the biggest and most profitable sport with stadiums all sold out!

Indy could not build Lucas oil without Peyton.

Bills could not build its new stadium with out Josh.

Etc.

Time to get a true power 4 winning coach
If Rutgers has to Win to create cash flow, then we might as well hang it up and stop wasting our time. Because that is never going to happen. What kind of coach is going to come to a program without NIL? They will demand it upfront. Might as well just improve the support for the current coach.
 
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Again thanks for proving why people like you are the issue. RU has never had the level of success that these "other" schools have had. So trying to use them as the barometer of when to give is foolish.

You would rather not start because you're waiting for RU to reach the levels of well funded programs. When you're starting from behind, you need the funds up front to change the narrative.

If you don't see the insanity in this reasoning then you and many others deserve the non-stop agony that is RU sports. Nothing is holding them back but it's own alums.

you’re expecting RU fans to behave like the fans of NO OTHER fanbase on the planet = give $$$ when there is no record of success or an obvious path to it

yeah, youre right. The fans are the problem.
 

RUDiddy777

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Dylan and Ace were getting a lot of it and we still couldn't win.

I think we still probably got them on the cheap/loyalty discount. A year of NIL is a rounding error to what these guys are going to make over their careers. For guys ranked 20-100+, NIL is their chance to cash in on their talent.
 

-RUFAN4LIFE-

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you’re expecting RU fans to behave like the fans of NO OTHER fanbase on the planet = give $$$ when there is no record of success or an obvious path to it

yeah, youre right. The fans are the problem.
Have it your way, don’t cry when its as successful as the last fifty years.
 

newell138

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The only reason his roster building hasn’t been impressive is we don’t have any money. Same thing with football, you can change the coach, but you won’t change the results until people pony up.
he had plenty of money last year and how did that go?
 

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Trevor Bauer won the CY Young in 2020…

pike did the unimaginable in getting to to be a tournament team and has **** the bed since.
He was given the gift of not just 1 but 2 lottery picks last year. And even without enough NIL to get another huge piece- he coached the tea to a crappy record. How is that even possible.

OK- the record, let’s not put that on him- we’re our 2 guys better when they left here then they were out of college. If Pike couldn’t win last year, his only job should have been to show he could make a lottery pick showcase themself

he did nothing, zero positive last year.
So far, Harper is a better player in the NBA than he was here. The jury is still out, but Ace will probably be better, too
 

PSAL_Hoops

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He's not a very good coach, and if he wins less than 10 games he's gone.

I disagree with you on the first part, but I strongly agree on the second part of what you said. If we were to win 9 or less total games then, yes, it’s 100% time to move on.

You do realize just how bad that is though, right? EJ only failed to reach double digit wins once in his time at RU and, again, that was largely because he lost one of his two best players on an already terrible team.

Even the year EJ lost to St Peters and St Francis PA he still managed 10 wins. Think of the upsets in the NCAA tournament. Occasionally, everyone gets hot shooting the ball. It’s actually really hard not to get to 10 wins with our schedule.
 
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RUDiddy777

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This is the exact attitude that dooms RU, I provided periods where they were winning and now you’re moving the goal posts and saying it needs to be more.

I mean SHI was hosting games with 40-45k seats filled every game and the RAC is still carrying a sellout streak that was started by Pike turning the program around. Those won’t happen without winning and the fan base was excited during those periods.

Additionally it doesn’t matter that NIL wasn’t a factor in 1.0, money was still needed to upgrade facilities across the board.

You basically want to thrive on the cheap still when the various programs are facing off against rosters with a lot more talent on them due to NIL. You’re not going to punch above your weight often in this current environment when opposing rosters get better every year while RU fans wait for their Miracle on Ice moment that will never come.

you can do a bond issuance, state investment and use school funds for the stuff you mentioned. Can’t do that for NIL.

We need to get our act together. We spent the better part of the last decade just trying to get to parity in the old system. Now we need to get going on the new, NIL system.
 

RUDiddy777

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Completely disagree he is absolutely right and you and your thinking are the problem with the RU fan base. Continue to give passes to bad X and O coaches who have horrific embarrassing seasons with terrible coaching decisions in the process.

Both Greg and Pike are good coordinators for a program OR lower level coaches but neither are power 4 coaches in the modern era.

What Pike did last year was worse than any other basketball season in the last 40 years. Ppl are now saying give him a pass on this season lol. Pike great guy, defensive coordinator, but HC of a power 4 No.

Greg just continues to be a walking embarrassment. Development program lol. The good news both will be gone shortly

Little hyperbole there - massive disappointment for sure, but we didn’t lose games by 60+ points like we did not that long ago…
 

RUDiddy777

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Yes I follow basketball, have you followed basketball? Doesn’t seem like it. Do you see the caliber of players we’re recruiting? Have you compared to the caliber of players the competition is recruiting? How can anyone expect us to successfully compete?

You don’t seem to understand the competitive recruiting environment Rutgers faced pre NIL. Players were paid under the table pre NIL. St John’s paid players. Villanova paid players. Seton Hall paid players. Our big ten peers, especially Michigan, paid players.

Despite this adverse environment, Pike built competitive teams which went to the NCAA’s, thanks to hitting three moonshots in Harper, Baker, and Macconnell.

NIL deals became legal to kids July 2021. This really didn’t impact us, since we didn’t have much NIL. But As NIL has become more of a thing it has become harder and harder to recruit, because the moonshots we’ve been recruiting haven’t panned out.

And not having competitive NIL support cost us a chance to keep Spencer for the ‘24 Season, one of the transfers that worked out, and consequently cost us a chance at the tournament.
instead Spencer led UConn to a National Championship.

NIL deals became legal to kids July 2021. This really didn’t impact us, since we didn’t have much NIL. Amounts that used to be paid under the table were now paid legally. So it isn’t surprising to see our classes struggle, because we continue to recruit moonshots, class after class, because we don’t have the support to recruit better players.

We are recruiting just fine to be a consistent bubble team (plus or minus a few spots year to year) - and I think that’s what we are right now until NIL falls into place with retention and portal becoming more important.
 

yesrutgers01

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We can all go back and forth with anything imaginable- is there anyone on tge day before tge season started last year think there could be a chance in hell to not make the Tourney
 

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The world around Pike has radically changed and now it's time for Pike to show us he's changed. The days of developing players over multiple years is over. The current players on the roster will need to find success including getting better throughout the year or Coach has a major problem.

Most Rutgers fans will not throw good money at bad results. Doesn't work that way no matter how much Al sounds like a broken record. Dylan and Ace were paid handsomely last year by corporate money based on talent and NBA potential, and Rutgers still failed.
 

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Pike gets a pass from me on his first 3 years because of the disaster he walked into.

In the 6 years that have followed, he's 103-86 (58-62) including a 24-63 mark away from the RAC. Bad OOC losses to St. Bonaventure, DePaul, Lafayette, UMass, Temple, Kennesaw St etc.

The fact that Pike dug this program out of the abyss, broke the tournament drought and restored pride have bought him a lot of time. But we've been middling for a while now and the arrow is pointing down. IMO, last year was the most embarrassing of any RU season I can remember, in terms of both results and perception. He somehow goes into year TEN with zero expectations, as the team is picked 17th or 18th in the pre-season B1G rankings.

Will this team resemble the scrappy, pain in the *** RU teams Pike made his name with? Or are we just resigned to a dreary 11-win season?

Massive year for Pike.
 
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Pike gets a pass from me on his first 3 years because of the disaster he walked into.

In the 6 years that have followed, he's 103-86 (58-62) including a 24-63 mark away from the RAC. Bad OOC losses to St. Bonaventure, DePaul, Lafayette, UMass, Temple, Kennesaw St etc.

The fact that Pike dug this program out of the abyss, broke the tournament drought and restored pride have bought him a lot of time. But we've been middling for a while now and the arrow is pointing down. IMO, last year was the most embarrassing of any RU season I can remember, in terms of both results and perception. He somehow goes into year TEN with zero expectations, as the team is picked 17th or 18th in the pre-season B1G rankings.

Will this team resemble the scrappy, pain in the *** RU teams Pike made his name with? Or are we just resigned to a dreary 11-win season?

Massive year for Pike.

you absolutely nailed it with this post
 
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We can all go back and forth with anything imaginable- is there anyone on tge day before tge season started last year think there could be a chance in hell to not make the Tourney

There’s always a chance. I’m excited to see what Pike can do this year. There is talent on this team.
 
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Pike gets a pass from me on his first 3 years because of the disaster he walked into.

In the 6 years that have followed, he's 103-86 (58-62) including a 24-63 mark away from the RAC. Bad OOC losses to St. Bonaventure, DePaul, Lafayette, UMass, Temple, Kennesaw St etc.

The fact that Pike dug this program out of the abyss, broke the tournament drought and restored pride have bought him a lot of time. But we've been middling for a while now and the arrow is pointing down. IMO, last year was the most embarrassing of any RU season I can remember, in terms of both results and perception. He somehow goes into year TEN with zero expectations, as the team is picked 17th or 18th in the pre-season B1G rankings.

Will this team resemble the scrappy, pain in the *** RU teams Pike made his name with? Or are we just resigned to a dreary 11-win season?

Massive year for Pike.

Agreed - but I don’t think last season was the most embarrassing (or even close). I think he’s got this season and next to get us back to the dance (unless this is a catastrophic sub 10 win season).
 

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Pike gets a pass from me on his first 3 years because of the disaster he walked into.

In the 6 years that have followed, he's 103-86 (58-62) including a 24-63 mark away from the RAC. Bad OOC losses to St. Bonaventure, DePaul, Lafayette, UMass, Temple, Kennesaw St etc.

The fact that Pike dug this program out of the abyss, broke the tournament drought and restored pride have bought him a lot of time. But we've been middling for a while now and the arrow is pointing down. IMO, last year was the most embarrassing of any RU season I can remember, in terms of both results and perception. He somehow goes into year TEN with zero expectations, as the team is picked 17th or 18th in the pre-season B1G rankings.

Will this team resemble the scrappy, pain in the *** RU teams Pike made his name with? Or are we just resigned to a dreary 11-win season?

Massive year for Pike.
Add CCSU.