Havelock vs Charlotte Catholic
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His older brother played for Catholic. Both have been in the MACS system since kindergarten. Next.
Words, the Havelock coaches will look at the film and kick themselves. Statistically, the game was even and could have gone either way as both defenses totally frustrated the offenses for most of the game. Losing Edmunds hurt. He had been pretty much bottled up until his injury but is the type of player that can house it any play. Bottom line, Havelock made mistakes with the penalties and bad snaps that cost them dearly and essentially beat themselves. I also thought that being in a tough game with team capable of trading punches caught them by surprise. Seeing 0 points after the first quarter and only 7 on the board late in the forth was psychologically a new experience. Catholic had multiple close games, some they were lucky to win. If these teams were to play 10 times, my gut instinct says Havelock would win at least 7. One recommendation for the fall season, schedule a game with someone that can beat you, even if you go out of state. Win or lose, you learn a lot about your team. Havelock has the nucleus to make a deep run again this fall. Catholic goes up to 4A. Will be harder but they have been there before.
Havelock had a 2-year schedule with Dillon (SC) the last few years but never got to play due to COVID/weather.
Your right could have gone either way but it didn’t ! Because of several factors. Penalties/bad snaps/overthrows etc. in every game this year up to this point they overcome those and win going away . You can’t do that against well coached and prepared teams . Don’t get your knickers in a wad y’all have a great team full of athletes but sometimes it takes a little more and y’all didn’t have it tonight!
There’s multiple kids that have been in the BCS system since kindergarten. Forced to attend the high school and play for their school in the district they live. NEXT
Wow... 0-6. You can not simply think deeper than an inch deep. Open enrollment and a parochial based education enrollment is so different. I let you in on a little secret... Jesus loves us more.
I think you are agreeing with the point I made, but those kids are extremely smart. Sooo... what is it you are saying now? Raw intelligence is not an advantage?
I’m sorry you can’t see how your open enrollment provides an advantage over other schools. I’m not taking anything away from the football team. Clearly a great team! Congratulations on the state championship!
As long as they are yours. LOL.
Actually it would be hard to say which offense was best as several of them presented significant problems for us. We actually deal with big running backs pretty well. Monroe was the scariest and thankful they figured it out to late how to attack us. They had the most weapons to exploit us. Weddington is just solid but not that explosive. Too often we think teams that put up the most points are the most difficult but who you play has a lot to do with that. Crest hit us in the mouth but we adjusted. I think we got their best.
I am sorry you can not differentiate between open enrollment and parochial enrollments. It is not the same.
Touche. Keep at it. It is good to be tested early and will only make you better.
Some of these comments are flat out crazy lol. Catholic was the better team 2nite, congrats to them. I take nothing away from them, lets kill that whole open enrollment thing 1st, those kids are no 4 and 5 stars they are just coached well and rarely make mistakes. Let's kill the Edmonds not getting hit all year theory too. 1st off that wasn't the ankle he previously injured, 2nd off of u saw the way he went down we all gasped bcuz we thought it was a knee, 3rd he shouldn't have even came back out but he fought even tho he couldn't even cut on it. Our offense is good, but u can't have that many bad snaps and errors, on top of your back being injured and think u gonna beat that CC team. Hats off to them, like I said congrats... Havelock will be back
I’m saying you are privileged to have selected intellect. Win it all.. just don’t be so fricking pompous while being gregarious with your adversaries.
Says the fan of a 4th straight state championship appearance team competing against public schools... be honest are you really Tommy Knotts?
Tommy KNotts won everywhere he went. I don't remember him having open enrollment. Are you making another nonsensical post? Man you just got to 0-6. You know if you put a few more doozies out there's you will have scored more points than Havelock did tonight.
Not trying to pick a fight and definitely not adding an excuse as to why Havelock lost. But, have questions here. Does an "open area" you and others refer mean a geographically larger area to pull kids from for sports - please explain what is the definition for - open area and the geographical boundary lines if any for - open area . Also seems to me that "larger areas to draw students" does equate to advantages, especially if that larger area is within a large population center. For instance, Havelock is in Craven county. If Havelock could combine with the only other high school (New Bern) within the same county (Craven) then that larger geographical area would definitely be an advantage in athletics. Just my thinking but seems logical. Anyway, congrats to Catholic a well-coached and disciplined team. Not going to drink the koolade that they have no D1 players.
Havelock will be back. LOL.. I think they are always there. I don't think anyone from Catholic said Edmonds has not been hit. I think it was more like saying our kids would not want to tackle him. Now that was a crazy comment. We were down to playing our 3rd string back during the game as well. That is not ideal for us.
Comments flat out crazy? Yes, Catholic was the better team. No, they don’t have D1 athletes galore. I’m a retired coach of 20 years. Winning at the High School level isn’t always just football! Having a select group of intellectuals to play is an advantage. The only school I’ve seen pull it off legally is Weddington
And if you knew you would know why TK has always won. ... been in the game a minute RC...
Blackhawk. Looks like you have short memory too. I didn't raise the intelligence issue. You did with your quote earlier: "Good god could you be any drunker on the kool aid?!!! You’re argument is they hardly have any D1 kids??? They have a endless influx of really smart, without academic challenged kids. Most PUBLIC schools design their football teams around 4 or 5 stud athletes. It’s not an even playing field."
I have been called a lot of things in my life. Privileged is new. I will concede that your logic was way beyond my intellect and remains so. I still think any school would rather have 4-5 D1 stud athletes than 4-5 skinny armed future neuroscience majors to design their football team around. I have also been anything but pompous with any other poster. Just you.
Forsyth County/ Winston Salem has open enrollment, like Catholic and is allowed to compete against all other public schools. With school boundaries. Wonder how East Forsyth has 3 or 5 D1 dawgs every year????
you’re not a coach
NC Jeff I appreciate your candor and appropriate approach to this question. You seem reasonable and I will try to provide a polite answer to where your argument falls short. First there is no data that suggests that larger geographic area for an enrollment to be pull from actually provides an advantage for athletics. You said it just seems logical to you but there is really no basis to support what seems logical. Take two large school and one has an area that is twice the size of another.. do they have an advantage.
With regard to Parochial schools. Since most of CCHS schools enrollment are made up of Catholics 90% (probably more) at CCHS and Catholic make up 5% of the population. How much bigger would the area need to be to fill our the same amount of students when you are only pulling from 5% of the population. it gets even more difficult when only a small % of catholics are in Catholic education. Now in the larger population areas the amount of Catholics is higher than 5% but given the realties of the student body your open enrollment argument is a little species with CCHS. Lately I see a whole lot more shenanigans going on with kids changing schools by changing districts. That does not happen at Catholic. if it was a huge advantage then we would have looked like the.team with more athletes tonight.
You have no idea... you have now outscored Havelock tonight. 0-8
You still can not get through the limited prism of your intellect to differentiate between open enrollments of public schools and parochial schools. Sound like the coach needs to become a student.
You still can not get through the limited prism of your intellect to differentiate between open enrollments of public schools and parochial schools. Sound like the coach needs to become a student.
Yes, Catholic draws from a larger area because we need to so we can fill the school with Catholics. Hence the name - Charlotte Catholic High School.
Well.. I guess the North Carolina Christians should form a select high school to compete against Charlotte Catholic? Argument makes sense right?
How about all select Christians within a 30 mile radius of CC combine to form one school? Let’s dance
Already done. There is actually a high school in Charlotte called Charlotte Christian. You might have heard of them. They play at a very elite level and are always ranked as one of the top teams in NC. They also had a yearly rivalry with Catholic pre Covid. They are non denominational and draw from a broad geography too. They play in the NC private school league, but like Catholic, are willing to take on all comers. Catholics actually attend Charlotte Christian. Did you know Catholics are Christians too? Would they be allowed to play on your hypothetical select team?
Catholic does not have kids coming into Catholic on "open Enrollment" whatever that means to you. 95 TO 100 % of the football players come thru the Elementary and middle school MACS system (MACS means Mecklenburg Area Catholic Schools). If you transfer into Catholic under "open enrollment" you have to sit out a year and you are not eligible to play sports the year you transfer. Your parents will also have to fork over 10k to 12k the year you cant play and 10k to 12k a year when you finally can play. No player can receive any financial assistance or loan if they will play sports in the NCHSAA. That is the deal between NCHSAA and Catholic. There has never been a hint that Catholic has ever violated this and has caused us to lose many athletes who were in MACS thru elementary and middle school but would have needed aid to go to Charlotte Catholic High.
