Just a thought (apologize if anyone has brought this up on other threads) RU and SHU should try and get a 4 year deal at MSG to play a game one of the first weekends in Dec. I think it would be a blast and both schools could benefit
RU vs. SHUless at MSG?
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I doubt that would happen. SHU doesn't even want to open the upper decks in their arena when we play there - why would they move 2 games to a neutral site where we will dominate ticket sales all four years?
Don't see them wanting to do that.
I could see us playing a national brand who would bring a lot of fans themselves... a Kentucky or UNC type.
I could see us playing a national brand who would bring a lot of fans themselves... a Kentucky or UNC type.
I've seen this posted a few times. I'm all for a game or two a year at MSG.
Why would we play our biggest in-state rival out of state? Makes no sense.
Why would we play our biggest in-state rival out of state? Makes no sense.
Think the biggest opportunity if we are willing to upgrade the OOC schedule is try to get a blue blood to come in every year without a return game at their court. Think other teams would be interested to help with NY/NJ recruiting. We would just have to ask our selves if this is worth it for us.
This instead.
Just like playing a home conference game there too.
Doesn't have to be every year.
But a Holiday tournament and/or a local NYC school (St. John's, Fordham, Manhattan, Iona) should happen every year.
Good luck getting another B1G school with that after what we saw on the court and stands on Saturday.
We should be the B1G standard bearer and play the ACC, SEC or the Big12 there.
No way does Rutgers agree to be the home team (from a conference schedule perspective, never mind the NET) every time. So sometimes the alternative will be the RAC, but others it would be their own home court.
I could see MSG games with the likes of UConn and Syracuse but not SHU. Those games should be played in NJ.
It makes sense to find a school that wants to play at MSG to have a footprint in NYC or for an existing player to play a game at home. This way you get a N game that would really lean towards being a home game.
The issue is many of those schools will probably want a return date. R we willing to offer a Garden date for a return visit on their home court.
Much more palatable to me then giving up home court conference games in the RAC but then that return year could be tough and not entirely fair. If we had Baylor or Gonzaga at the Garden are the return trips to their home courts the next year? Are fans and more importantly RU okay with that? Giving up a lot for a Garden game and not entirely fair.
Does Pru Center get their nose out of joint if we did that? Would they want to host their own games? Why not? Would they care? Does SHU have any say?
UConn or St.John’s to even possibly Cuse might be open to once a year at the Garden. But then splitting proceeds or fans?
I’d certainly be open to a Nova series at the Garden and a return trip at Wells Fargo. I’d do the same for Georgetown in DC but are they even a draw anymore?
Still think if B1G is serious about this have to make it much fairer to RU. As much as every body was thrilled about Garden opinion would have been much different had we lost. Our shooting alone in the first half was a red flag.
Much more palatable to me then giving up home court conference games in the RAC but then that return year could be tough and not entirely fair. If we had Baylor or Gonzaga at the Garden are the return trips to their home courts the next year? Are fans and more importantly RU okay with that? Giving up a lot for a Garden game and not entirely fair.
Does Pru Center get their nose out of joint if we did that? Would they want to host their own games? Why not? Would they care? Does SHU have any say?
UConn or St.John’s to even possibly Cuse might be open to once a year at the Garden. But then splitting proceeds or fans?
I’d certainly be open to a Nova series at the Garden and a return trip at Wells Fargo. I’d do the same for Georgetown in DC but are they even a draw anymore?
Still think if B1G is serious about this have to make it much fairer to RU. As much as every body was thrilled about Garden opinion would have been much different had we lost. Our shooting alone in the first half was a red flag.
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Both schools want home games and the revenues
Bad idea, battle of NJ, played in NY?
Much better rotating each arena every season
To me UConn makes more sense. But then do we lose home field advantage given UConn’s ability to travel to MsG?
Yea I don’t get it. The game is called the Garden State Hardwood Classic, it’s supposed to be a showcase of the two premier college basketball programs in New Jersey. Playing that game outside of New Jersey makes no sense.Both schools want home games and the revenues
Bad idea, battle of NJ, played in NY?
Much better rotating each arena every season
The SHU game should stay in Jersey, but other NE schools would be good. As folks mentioned above - teams like UCONN, BC, Providence. Cuse?
That said, if I ran St. John's I would do everything I can to prevent it. I never realized how embarrassing Saturday's sea of red would be for St. John's until I saw it.
Hmm, what about RU-St. John's?
That said, if I ran St. John's I would do everything I can to prevent it. I never realized how embarrassing Saturday's sea of red would be for St. John's until I saw it.
Hmm, what about RU-St. John's?
SJU should play in the new islanders arena instead of msg.
Msg wouldn’t miss them either
I think there is a misunderstanding of how the Big Ten Super Saturday schedule works.
The Big Ten does not ask schools if they want to play a game at MSG and then wait for the schools to agree or disagree. The Big Ten just schedules the game. This year, the Big Ten scheduled 9 Rutgers games at the RAC, 10 games at opponent arenas, and 1 game at MSG. That was our schedule.
It is no different than when the Big Ten scheduled Rutgers to play Purdue on Jan 2 in West Lafayette. They didn't ask us if we'd rather play in Piscataway or Indianapolis instead. They didn't ask us if we'd rather have the game on Jan 4.
Or like if Rutgers gets scheduled to play Miami in the B1G-ACC challenge. We don't get to say that we'd rather play Duke.
You play what the conference schedules you to play. That is part of being in the conference.
We can complain about the schedule. We can complain that it is unfair to have an MSG game count as a home game for NET/Quad purposes. We can make requests (like Purdue asking for our game to be moved from the afternoon to evening, so it didn't conflict with their bowl game). And the conference can listen to our complaints and suggestions, or ignore them.
I would sign up for this. Play a neutral site game at MSG every year. That will be a big event.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the downside for Rutgers of a home-and-home with a national-level program, even if the Rutgers "home" game is at MSG. I thought that claiming MSG as "home" was something you all valued...
Agree however the conference is much more likely to listen to other BIG10 schools than us.
So if a Michigan, Ohio State, Indiana, Wisconsin doesn’t like the idea of playing Rutgers at MSG after seeing the turnout this weekend you can be sure they will be letting the BIG10 know for future scheduling purposes.
I read them, but I thought that was only with respect to giving up a conference home game. I stand corrected...
The "Garden State Hardwood Classic" can't be played in some other state.
It is basically.
Many adamantly imposed giving up conference games to MSG.
Many have suggested non conference game to MSG which may be more palatable for many including myself.
Not going to start another argument but Have heard rumors over years RU tried to schedule Gonzaga but they wanted return trip to their home arena and that was the holdup. That was allegedly Rutger’s position so please don’t attack me. Just stuff you have to consider. Maybe we have harder try for Valvano classic or Holiday Festival at Garden.
We also learned this week for first time for many of us that B1G contract at Garden is up so no guarantee when and if game will ever be made up for RU? The B1G’s response to Carino inquiry regarding the same was let’s just say less than comforting to many knowledgeable RU fans.
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Nova is the best example. Seems like a no brainer. Could sell out Garden and Wells Fargo.
Duke and NC no incentive.
Clemson at Greenville? Seems fair.
Trying to think of others. Would Houston or TCU want to come north? Nearby neutral arenas rather than home date on their courts? Have no idea how they draw?
I’m stunned they don’t. They did at the Meadowlands. Kinda surprised they are not forced.
They do against other rivals such as Nova, but their AD doesn’t want the upper level to be mostly Red so he declines the much needed revenues for his cash strapped dept.
Foolish by him, IMO
What @S_Janowski said...
As I mentioned in other threads, I was right next to a B1G staffer who said the same to someone from MSG. And yes, the B1G guy knows we're not happy about it. I believe his quote was "The Rutgers folks are pissed."