Rutgers to REQUIRE all in person students to be vaccinated this fall

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RUevolution36

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Ha. Another one triggered. Why are you guys so defensive and unsure of yourself if you think you are right?
Who's unsure of themselves? Just pointing out how stupid your comment was. You're the one getting all pissy and making up hypotheticals to try to make a point.
 
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RUevolution36

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At what point do we have a moral responsibility to each other to get vaccinated?
“my rights” and “me, me, me” has helped us get into this place, half a million dead later
anti vax = anti American and unpatriotic

enough of the nonsense
Ungrateful maggots.
 
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LETSGORU91_

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WTF, that comment makes no sense...why would the poster move there? The poster never insisted anyone else should mask but rather simply provided an example of the rationale behind individual people's decision to mask in crowded, enclosed public areas (such as mass transit), in a region of the world where a larger segment of population has historically done so, even pre-COVID, since it's not necessarily a social stigma. In some cases it's also to mitigate the air pollution which is much worse in some parts of Asia and thus can affect people's breathing.

Maybe you should consider moving if your perceived freedoms are being so heavily infringed upon. Or you can continue complaining on a message board.

I'm still waiting for @RUskoolie to respond to my request for some information. Please provide a link so I can see where the CDC advised masks over vaccine, with the date of this advisement, and what parameters their decision was based upon. Some people are willing to throw s#*t against the wall and see if it will sticks, but wont provide the data to back up their claims.
 

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if a certain portion of the population goes on spreading disease so that it can mutate more quickly, they are giving up freedoms for the rest of us.
Well if your vaccinated I would think you would be safe . Why else get vaccinated? Nobody seems concerned about unvaccinated border jumpers who will be released soon into Southern California and the northern states. A bit hypocritical it would seem if you’re worrying about actual US citizens not getting vaccinations while our leaders allow the spread in the general population by the untested migrant influx.
 

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There was never a need for mRNA as much as there is now so it never garned huge attention. The collaborative effort to get this going and something developed is quite impressive.



So sayeth the king of irrelevant one liners. Try practicing what you preach at least sometimes.



The problem with your statement is the risk of effects from covid are much higher than what we know and compare to those of the vaccine. I have not seen any documented studies indicating the vaccine causes immediate and long term changes in cardiac, pulmonary, vascular, integumentary, gastrointestinal, neurological, etc. systems. This doesnt even include the chronic fatigue many are experiencing. You are trying to compare miniscule side effects of a vaccine to severe effects of covid when there are so many things in between which are directly tied to covid. Enough have them when infected, continue in the months afterwards and some arent going away. I'm not sure who you are referring to as "some people", but plenty have compromised their health by contracting covid. And dont forget the 545,000 dead.

Yep! The problem with COVID is that it is not simply a respiratory disease and affects multiple organ systems in people so many different ways.....and although older people and those with underlying conditions fare worse there are too many cases of young, healthy people with no known issues suffering severe complications or death and its unpredictable. It absolutely makes sense to get vaccinated. To all the naysayers going on about the vaccine approval, the review of the data and the advisory committee is very similar to the normal approval process. The data is the same and there is no doubt these will be “fully” approved in the not too distant future.
 

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Yep! The problem with COVID is that it is not simply a respiratory disease and affects multiple organ systems in people so many different ways.....and although older people and those with underlying conditions fare worse there are too many cases of young, healthy people with no known issues suffering severe complications or death and its unpredictable. It absolutely makes sense to get vaccinated. To all the naysayers going on about the vaccine approval, the review of the data and the advisory committee is very similar to the normal approval process. The data is the same and there is no doubt these will be “fully” approved in the not too distant future.

This is so true - data show 8-10% of infected (including those who are asymptomatic) have lingering problems including neurological issues. This is also true in children. The NIH is seeking grant applications to study Post- Acute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 infection (PASC) total more than $1 billion.

The NIH sure thinks this is a major concern
 
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I'm still waiting for @RUskoolie to respond to my request for some information. Please provide a link so I can see where the CDC advised masks over vaccine, with the date of this advisement, and what parameters their decision was based upon. Some people are willing to throw s#*t against the wall and see if it will sticks, but wont provide the data to back up their claims.


it was Redfield, this here mask is better than a vaccine as he held it up... i wonder why at the time he never thought of the double mask idea...shrugs shoulders
 

WhiteBus

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6ABC covered the requirement of vaccines by Rutgers. They then asked Drexel, LaSalle, Temple, Nova, and Penn if they will do the same. The universal response? Crickets. Not one school officially responded to 6ABC. Off the record a few said they are not even considering it.
Is Rutgers the lone wolf on this? Are the the first major college to make this a requirement?
 

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I’m pro vaccine and hope everyone gets it. Who’s not tired of wearing masks? Also it’s sad to see the small percentage of people who are suffering and / or dying from this.

This should not be yet another reason to fight. Another us vs them. We have enough division started by our politicians and media. We the people need to stand together on this one. I encourage all of you to please get the vaccine. I respect your decisions to wait and see on this but do some research and make tour own decision.

I don’t care that Kamala told everyone not to get the vaccine in the VP debate nor do I care that Biden is taking credit for it. They are both POS politicians.

Scientists have been hard at work pushing this out in record time. Yea Trump gets some credit like him or not but this is a good thing. Let’s use this positive resource and stop fighting about it. We have plenty to argue about. Hell we can all get the vaccine and argue about who gets credit.

Do your research. Make the right choice for you but also think of others such as our older and compromised population.
 

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Two of my neighbors closest friends and occasional contacts of mine both recently were infected with the virus

Both are in their late 40's and both had to be hospitalized. One had clotting in the lungs and had the rougher time, he had a struggle to stay alive

Oh, and one of them got the virus from his 14 year old daughter, killing the theory that
The young don't need to be vaccinated. As I have said in the past, vaccinating even those not personally at risk benefits us all.

Yet we hear that over and over that "I" don't need the shot. Sad, self centered


We are not out of the woods with this by any means

I encourage all to get vaccinated if they can..... don't think just because you are not a senior citizen this virus won't get you, and if you get a mild case it still affects others
 
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it was Redfield, this here mask is better than a vaccine as he held it up... i wonder why at the time he never thought of the double mask idea...shrugs shoulders

Why must you continue to misrepresent what he said? He made the comments when the efficacy of the vaccines were yet unknown, and stated that the mask may provide significant protection relative to a vaccine which could be approved but be at the low end of acceptable efficacy (~50%). Such misrepresentation is all too typical for an alarmingly large group of people united in their support of one individual.
 

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Why must you continue to misrepresent what he said? He made the comments when the efficacy of the vaccines were yet unknown, and stated that the mask may provide significant protection relative to a vaccine which could be approved but be at the low end of acceptable efficacy (~50%). Such misrepresentation is all too typical for an alarmingly large group of people united in their support of one individual.
I see this one the other way around. I never liked Trump before but started to support him because of the TDS so many have. Redfield deserves to be called out here as does Fauci on many occasions. They too are politicians and the reason why so many don’t believe in the science. Bunch of POS politicians in the WHO and CDC. No denying that fact. Trump is gone and i don’t care but I still 100% feel this way about the Swamp. It runs too deep. Kamala lied. Biden read lies from his paper for one hour yesterday. Fauci flip flops like a fish and Redfield said what he said right before the election which is shameful. No respect for any of them.

However, I do support the vaccine and the science behind the vaccines. I urge everyone to do their own research and not listen to anyone on this board or the politicians and media. The division amongst us since 2015 is pathetic.
 

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Why would Holloway mandate students get the Covid vaccine but not professors and administrators? Isn’t the older folks we are trying to protect? Makes no sense.
Agreed 100%. But I assume, like others have mentioned, it has something to do with unions and also not being able to force this upon the employees at this juncture. My wife works in a hospital. She HAS to get the flu shot if she wants to have her job. She was strongly encouraged to get the COVID vaccine, but they had no teeth to enforce it. Thankfully, she got both shots months ago, and was able to get me both of my shots back in January and February so we both are grateful.

That said, as it relates to Rutgers, it's just bad optics in my opinion. They are making the vaccine mandatory for the students because they feel they can. They are not making it mandatory for employees because they know they cannot. Do for thee, not for me.
 

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Why would Holloway mandate students get the Covid vaccine but not professors and administrators? Isn’t the older folks we are trying to protect? Makes no sense.
You’re late to the party . As beaten to death here , it’s an employment law issue
 
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The bottom line for me: Rutgers will require students to get vaccinated.. but not the staff.

These are still experimental vaccines.
 

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Well if your vaccinated I would think you would be safe . Why else get vaccinated?

How about - to simply get a semblance of their normal lives back????

Choose not to get the vaccine and for the foreseeable future (until community spread goes down) you still have to quarantine for 10 days every time you find out that you spent 15 minutes or more within 6 feet of a Covid positive. That alone is surely incentive enough for many people. The quarantine rules are extremely distruptive on our lives and they are not going to be changed without herd immunity whether you agree with the merits or not. If you have young kids (who can’t get the vaccine any time soon), resumption of normalcy is unfortunately a function other people’s decisions regarding the vaccine.
 

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Why would Holloway mandate students get the Covid vaccine but not professors and administrators? Isn’t the older folks we are trying to protect? Makes no sense.
😜 It’s Holloway FGS ... I would love to see him mandate to his professional staff the need for vaccinating but you would be upsetting the Almighty teacher’s Union by doing that. Sorry but that’s a pass. It would be quite an interesting move by Holloway. If you were an RU student today, perhaps who was anti vax , would you want those angry old men and women vaccinated in order to be protected . For all those on the fence with vaccine yes or no. Just get the shot.😜🪓
 
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