Is there a semblance of doubt

[ScarletDave]

Is there anyone else who has buried, deep down, that Greg Schiano May actually not be hired, and we will end up with someone out of the MAC or something. There is definitely a lot of tension on this board and on twitter, no one is really mentioning this yet but I guess I’ll finally be the first one to say it, could this not happen ?? Scary thought.

 

[Letitrip]

If RU and Hobbs screw this up at this point heads need to roll big time. They would essentially have to start the search over and that would be inexcusable. I would also predict that season ticket sales will crater even further if a high risk second level coach is hired.

IMO they are just working out the details and Schiano wants to start out with everything he needs to be in place. He understands RU and the political landscape - that is a good thing.

 

[rurichdog]

It wouldn't be the first time Rutgers went & Rutgersed something up. Wouldn't be the last time either.

 

[Wolv RU]

If RU and Hobbs screws this up at this point heads need to roll big time. They would essentially have to start the search over and that would be inexcusable. I would also predict that season ticket sales will crater even further if a high risk second level coach is hired.

IMO they are just working out the details and Schiano wants to start out with everything he needs to be in place. He understand RU and the political landscape - that is a good thing.

Reports are that Rutgers has agreed to all of Schiano's demands. What else would you have them do? If Schiano doesn't take the job, then it's because he didn't want it for whatever reason.

 

[WhiteBus]

The RU Screw doesn't just apply to students.

I think at this point it's no better than 50/50.

 

[Dpgru]

Why are so many of you assuming that if it doesn’t get done it’s RU’s fault. He may not want RU as much as you “GS is God” folks want him. He just might change his mind and say thanks but no thanks. It takes two sides to make it a yes but either one can make it a no go.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Stop being so neurotic.

It's a process

 

[King of S]

Reports are that Rutgers has agreed to all of Schiano's demands. What else would you have them do? If Schiano doesn't take the job, then it's because he didn't want it for whatever reason.

Maybe Schiano just doesn’t want the job? Hard to tell at this point.

 

[devoted2ru]

I have no "inside info.", but I have to think that Hobbs, et al., know they've got, (and I mean GOT), to get this done. -If somehow they don't, the only thing that will prevent a fan meltdown that will make the Vesuvius eruption look small in comparison is if GS himself makes it clear he's the one who changed his mind even though RU was willing to meet his requirements. ...In truth, though, probably even that wouldn't be enough to quiet the resulting storm.

But frankly, I don't think things wouldn't have gotten this far if there was a real chance of Schiano bailing. (Just wish something would be announced so we'd know this thing has finally been nailed down.)

 

[WhiteBus]

Why are so many of you assuming that if it doesn’t get done it’s RU’s fault. He may not want RU as much as you “GS is God” folks want him. He just might change his mind and say thanks but no thanks. It takes two sides to make it a yes but either one can make it a no go.

It does take two sides but if Rutgers isn't serious about doing football right than why should Schiano or any qualified HC come here? Rutgers always tries to go the cheap route. If that is the case and Schiano passes it not his doing.

 

[KingHigh]

My sources tell me that the facilities upgrades that Schiano demands requires support from Trenton and cannot be guaranteed by Rutgers in a vacuum. My sources confirmed that Phil Murphy and Schiano have met to discuss and that Murphy was supportive.

 

[devoted2ru]

My sources tell me that the facilities upgrades that Schiano demands requires support from Trenton and cannot be guaranteed by Rutgers in a vacuum. My sources confirmed that Phil Murphy and Schiano have met to discuss and that Murphy was supportive.

Interesting stuff, KingHigh. -Having Murphy's support is definitely an important piece needed to get this done.

 

[Letitrip]

Reports are that Rutgers has agreed to all of Schiano's demands. What else would you have them do? If Schiano doesn't take the job, then it's because he didn't want it for whatever reason.

I would not buy that narrative. Fact is if this fell through now than Hobbs and company have not been able to finalize the details that were agreed to with Schiano.

 

[bac2therac]

i am sure that some are rooting it does not happen

 

[graystork]

So Rutgers wants state tax credits before it goes forward with this, like the last building. Sounds reasonable.

 

[Wolv RU]

So Rutgers wants state tax credits before it goes forward with this, like the last building. Sounds reasonable.

Sounds from the latest reporting that this is the case. Otherwise, Rutgers does not generally need support from Trenton to build things on its own property.

 

[RU848789]

Not worried.

 

[ru66]

this will not be a RU screw up if he chooses not to be hired--stop the wrong blame game

 

[WhiteBus]

this will not be a RU screw up if he chooses not to be hired--stop the wrong blame game

So if the school and Trenton say no to a new facility it's somehow his fault??

 

[sunsetregret]

Why are so many of you assuming that if it doesn’t get done it’s RU’s fault.

Because Rutgers has a long history of incompetence.

 

[RUbacker]

Is there anyone else who has buried, deep down, that Greg Schiano May actually not be hired, and we will end up with someone out of the MAC or something. There is definitely a lot of tension on this board and on twitter, no one is really mentioning this yet but I guess I’ll finally be the first one to say it, could this not happen ?? Scary thought.

I think this gets done but I think there are some at RU trying to go a little cheap again. Haven5 they learned their lessons on going cheap?

 

[NorthernKnight_rivals]

Is there anyone else who has buried, deep down, that Greg Schiano May actually not be hired, and we will end up with someone out of the MAC or something. There is definitely a lot of tension on this board and on twitter, no one is really mentioning this yet but I guess I’ll finally be the first one to say it, could this not happen ?? Scary thought.

No

 

[RUbacker]

i am sure that some are rooting it does not happen

I mentioned this in my post the other day. There are many that would love to undermine this as they go against RU at all costs. Shameful.

 

[RUScrew85]

98% sure its a done deal.

 

[koleszar]

Why are so many of you assuming that if it doesn’t get done it’s RU’s fault. He may not want RU as much as you “GS is God” folks want him. He just might change his mind and say thanks but no thanks. It takes two sides to make it a yes but either one can make it a no go.

I'm starting to waiver on this. I've always wanted Greg but his demands are out of touch. A new football only complex to replace the Hale center and new indoor field house attached is a bit much. Originally it was reported, "he's not asking for anything any other coach wouldn't ask for". I have a hard time believing any coach is going to ask for a $200 mil. commitment from the school.

The Hale Center will be football only once the Rodkin is complete, has a new locker and weight room. I could see asking for more renovations or an addition plus the indoor facility. But an entire new complex that's just La La land. Somethings just not adding up.

 

[RUScrew85]

I'm starting to waiver on this. I've always wanted Greg but his demands are out of touch. A new football only facility to replace the Hale center and new indoor field house attached is a bit much. Originally it was reported, "he's not asking for anything any other coach wouldn't ask for". I have a hard time believing any coach is going to ask for a $200 mil. commitment from the school.

The Hale Center will be football only once the Rodkin is complete, has a new locker and weight room. I could see asking for more renovations or an addition plus the indoor facility. But an entire new complex that's just La La land.

Hopefully for the GS fans it's a negotiating position.

Build the FH on the tennis courts or in the Hale parking lot. if they MUST be connected.

 

[RUScrew85]

I think this gets done but I think there are some at RU trying to go a little cheap again. Haven't they learned their lessons on going cheap?

Of course not, Rutgers gonna Rutgers.

 

[King of S]

I'm starting to waiver on this. I've always wanted Greg but his demands are out of touch. A new football only complex to replace the Hale center and new indoor field house attached is a bit much. Originally it was reported, "he's not asking for anything any other coach wouldn't ask for". I have a hard time believing any coach is going to ask for a $200 mil. commitment from the school.

The Hale Center will be football only once the Rodkin is complete, has a new locker and weight room. I could see asking for more renovations or an addition plus the indoor facility. But an entire new complex that's just La La land. Somethings just not adding up.

Agree- didn’t they just put in new locker room and weight room? Over the top demands.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

I'm starting to waiver on this. I've always wanted Greg but his demands are out of touch. A new football only complex to replace the Hale center and new indoor field house attached is a bit much. Originally it was reported, "he's not asking for anything any other coach wouldn't ask for". I have a hard time believing any coach is going to ask for a $200 mil. commitment from the school.

The Hale Center will be football only once the Rodkin is complete, has a new locker and weight room. I could see asking for more renovations or an addition plus the indoor facility. But an entire new complex that's just La La land. Somethings just not adding up.

New facilities are needed to adequately compete in recruiting.

Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, and Maryland either have built or are building brand new facilities which blow Hale Center out of the water. Ohio State and Michigan already have the best facilities money can buy. Penn State is spending an additional $70 M to upgrade their facilities.

Sure, there are coaches who will be happy to take our money without asking for additional infrastructure. Who doesn’t want to make millions. But they wouldn’t be able to adequately recruit. New facilities are absolutely needed if we are to realize our Rose Bowl aspirations. Otherwise we will have to content ourselves with Big Ten bottom feeder status.

 

[RURM85]

I don’t think his demands are over the top. Schiano wants what everybody else in the Conference has, competitive football facilities. We’ve seen beautiful new projects completed in the last few years from Purdue to Minnesota to Illinois.
If this becomes a fundraising activity lasting years, other schools will continue negatively recruiting Rutgers, pointing out the lack of commitment to football.
If not Schiano, who else as Coach? Some MAC dude or maybe try lighting in a bottle again by hiring another first time coach. This shrinking fan base is already teetering on falling apart. Time to play serious or consider getting out.

 

[RobotHunter]

i am sure that some are rooting it does not happen

I posted this in another thread but anyone who wants the Schiano deal to fall through needs their head examined. They hire him it means we have a proven, respected, experienced head coach AND tons of facilities upgrades including an indoor field house to put us on par with our peer schools. Schiano walks away and we are left with crappy facilities and some no name coach coming in here, more dropped season tickets and zero buzz for years to come. This program will fall into a crater so deep it will never come back out. Easy decision here.

 

[czxqa]

Agree- didn’t they just put in new locker room and weight room? Over the top demands.

So you're satisfied with the current state of the program?

 

[King of S]

So you're satisfied with the current state of the program?

Greg needs to come but with realistic demands. There is a middle ground to be found.

 

[Letitrip]

Greg needs to come but with realistic demands. There is a middle ground to be found.

And how do you know the demands are not realistic? Please stop making allegations that you have no ideal are true. Fact is Hobb and Co have let this go on for weeks and have basically no alternatives at this point. If this falls through hobbs should be sent back to South Orange asap. I don't think it will fall through - but the burden is on Hobbs to finish what he started. He meet with Schiano and knows full well what the demands were.

 

[RU2055]

BC lost .... FYI

 

[Colbert17!]

I'm pretty confident that this gets done. But again we're talking about a school that f***ed up a once in a 150 year opportunity already this year.

 

[Knight177lb]

I posted this in another thread but anyone who wants the Schiano deal to fall through needs their head examined. They hire him it means we have a proven, respected, experienced head coach AND tons of facilities upgrades including an indoor field house to put us on par with our peer schools. Schiano walks away and we are left with crappy facilities and some no name coach coming in here, more dropped season tickets and zero buzz for years to come. This program will fall into a crater so deep it will never come back out. Easy decision here.

This is so true. At this point, no matter how much we spend, it's going to be better decision to get Schiano than anybody else. If we don't get Schiano, attendance will plummet even further. We'd be lucky to make the NCAA minimum.

 

[newell138]

I'm starting to waiver on this. I've always wanted Greg but his demands are out of touch. A new football only complex to replace the Hale center and new indoor field house attached is a bit much. Originally it was reported, "he's not asking for anything any other coach wouldn't ask for". I have a hard time believing any coach is going to ask for a $200 mil. commitment from the school.

The Hale Center will be football only once the Rodkin is complete, has a new locker and weight room. I could see asking for more renovations or an addition plus the indoor facility. But an entire new complex that's just La La land. Somethings just not adding up.

How is a football only complex too much? Do you realize there are some high schools that have better indoor practice facilities than our bubble? Its not too much to ask to have facilities that are comparable with the rest of the teams we are playing and competing in recruiting against. Its an investment that will pay for itself in the long term

 

[Hardslider33]

New facilities are needed to adequately compete in recruiting.

Northwestern, Purdue, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana, Nebraska, and Maryland either have built or are building brand new facilities which blow Hale Center out of the water. Ohio State and Michigan already have the best facilities money can buy. Penn State is spending an additional $70 M to upgrade their facilities.

Sure, there are coaches who will be happy to take our money without asking for additional infrastructure. Who doesn’t want to make millions. But they wouldn’t be able to adequately recruit. New facilities are absolutely needed if we are to realize our Rose Bowl aspirations. Otherwise we will have to content ourselves with Big Ten bottom feeder status.

Rose Bowl?? Come on Al, while I can appreciate your love of Rutgers.
But we will never see that day.
Schiano is not God, and some are way over blowing this.
I see limited returns 8-4 is high water mark. We shall see, but even you was saying Greg needs to only get us back to competitive.

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Rose Bowl?? Come on Al, while I can appreciate your love of Rutgers.
But we will never see that day.
Schiano is not God, and some are way over blowing this.
I see limited returns 8-4 is high water mark. We shall see, but even you was saying Greg needs to only get us back to competitive.

suit yourself. We throw up a great football facility, and we’re going to the Rose Bowl. You can stay home.
Priority #1 is competitiveness. But other possibilities will open up too.