The G.O.A.T. does it again

RUboston

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That 50 yard pass that Mahomes threw at the beginning of the second half was absolutely incredible. He was in the air when he threw it.

Whoever won the OT toss was going to win that game.
 
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chickenpatty2

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Mar 21, 2013
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Playing against Brady must be like what Yul Brynner (Ramses) felt competing against Moses . . . "His God IS God." It's uncanny how the Pats just find a way.
 

vkj91

Heisman
Feb 7, 2007
188,570
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What are the odds that he retires if the Pats win the SB?
Zero. I’d assume they’ve been honest with each other. Next season they draft a QB and he learns for two years. Brady will stay on to long but he has earned it.
 

Knight Shift

Heisman
May 19, 2011
90,145
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Mahomes is so advanced for his age. Brady got away with that late pick. That would have been game over but he does it over and over and Bill gets a huge share of the credit as well. They always control the tempo and always have the right play called at the right time.
Mahomes has a high confidence level for a rookie. And he should.
 

Colbert17!

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This is depressing.
I appreciate the greatness of both (Brady & Bill) and the fact that the NFL may never see a pairing like this again but I'm so tired of them.
Is it me or do the Pats get every big call? Was there compelling evidence to overturn the muffed punt? Really? For me I couldn't tell one way or the other so the call should stand.
 
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Goku

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As great as Brady and belicheck and the team has been for 15 years (maybe the greatest dynasty in all of American sports) this is also an indictment on the weakness of the afc this whole time. Except for a decent ravens team, the manning colts at the end of their run, and the manning broncos, this confenrnce has been pathetic. And except for 2 years of the Rex jets, the afc east has been an embarrassment, allowing the pats to get the top 2 seeds way too many times in their run.
 

RUChoppin

Heisman
Dec 1, 2006
19,270
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Brady truly is an amazing quarterback, but his legacy will also forever be entwined with ref coddling for me.
 
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JoeRU0304

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This is depressing.
I appreciate the greatness of both (Brady & Bill) and the fact that the NFL may never see a pairing like this again but I'm so tired of them.
Is it me or do the Pats get every big call? Was there compelling evidence to overturn the muffed punt? Really? For me I couldn't tell one way or the other so the call should stand.

IMO it was very clear he never touched the ball. The roughing the passer call was brutal...but there was also egregious DPI on that same play so it evened out. The pick play on the KC TD was one of (if not) the worst non-calls you will ever see. The WR looked like a pulling guard and didn’t even appear to try and disguise what he was doing.


Joe P,
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Oct 11, 2003
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Mahomes has a high confidence level for a rookie. And he should.
As great as Brady and belicheck and the team has been for 15 years (maybe the greatest dynasty in all of American sports) this is also an indictment on the weakness of the afc this whole time. Except for a decent ravens team, the manning colts at the end of their run, and the manning broncos, this confenrnce has been pathetic. And except for 2 years of the Rex jets, the afc east has been an embarrassment, allowing the pats to get the top 2 seeds way too many times in their run.
Technically, the AFC East has been an embarrassment except for the 2 years of Rex's Jets and the year the Dolphins won the division in 2008, when Brady was out for the year.

Mahomes' arm talent is off the charts. Some of the throws he made were ridiculous.
 
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newwavedave1

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Feb 2, 2006
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Don't have the hatred of the Pats, Brady, and Belicheck
This is depressing.
I appreciate the greatness of both (Brady & Bill) and the fact that the NFL may never see a pairing like this again but I'm so tired of them.
Is it me or do the Pats get every big call? Was there compelling evidence to overturn the muffed punt? Really? For me I couldn't tell one way or the other so the call should stand.
I agree.I don't have the hatred of the Pats, Brady, and Belichek that some do, but I would like to see the end of the dynasty.
 

Colbert17!

Heisman
Aug 30, 2014
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IMO it was very clear he never touched the ball. The roughing the passer call was brutal...but there was also egregious DPI on that same play so it evened out. The pick play on the KC TD was one of (if not) the worst non-calls you will ever see. The WR looked like a pulling guard and didn’t even appear to try and disguise what he was doing.


Joe P,

Agree about the pick play. Terrible non call.
Every team runs it and it seems that the League has to find a way to consistently call it.
But probably not since they want teams to run up video game type numbers and make sure all the Fantasy players keep tuning in.
 
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rufeelinit

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Mahomes is very good but it is not likely he will have anywhere near the level of sustained team success that Brady has lead in New England. Not a bad night for Josh McDaniels either.
 

RU Cheese

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Some bad calls for sure. But here's the difference... Pats got burned by OPI non-call on Watkins play, came back, won the toss and won the game. Saints got burned by DPI/PF non-call, won the toss, turned the ball over and lost the game. Calls were bad. One team overcame and won and the other didn't. End of story.
 

Purple-Ed

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Mar 12, 2006
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IMO it was very clear he never touched the ball. The roughing the passer call was brutal...but there was also egregious DPI on that same play so it evened out. The pick play on the KC TD was one of (if not) the worst non-calls you will ever see. The WR looked like a pulling guard and didn’t even appear to try and disguise what he was doing.


Joe P,
Common, Joe, stop being so objective.
 

LotusAggressor_rivals

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Mahomes is very good but it is not likely he will have anywhere near the level of sustained team success that Brady has lead in New England. Not a bad night for Josh McDaniels either.
That's probably true. While Andy Reid is a near genius when it comes to QBs and offense, he's basically a choke coach. And the AFC West is a lot more competitive than the AFC East has been for the Patriots' nearly 2 decade reign of terror.
 

JoeRU0304

Heisman
Nov 9, 2005
106,478
18,017
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Agree about the pick play. Terrible non call.
Every team runs it and it seems that the League has to find a way to consistently call it.
But probably not since they want teams to run up video game type numbers and make sure all the Fantasy players keep tuning in.

Some interesting points and can’t help but agree. None of the people in our group watching the game were/ are Pats fans but we were all absolutely stupefied on that one. My cousin (who’s a Dolphins fan) called it “the worst pick play I think I’ve ever seen; he just went and hit the defender like he wasn’t even trying to run a pattern. You had 4 officials all looking right at it. How doesn’t anyone call it?” I think your point might come into play here.


Joe P.
 
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Bagarocks

Heisman
Jun 25, 2006
13,157
13,893
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Technically, the AFC East has been an embarrassment except for the 2 years of Rex's Jets and the year the Dolphins won the division in 2008, when Brady was out for the year.

Mahomes' arm talent is off the charts. Some of the throws he made were ridiculous.
It's hilarious that the Jets are mentioned as a reason for the AFC East being good!
 

mdk02

Heisman
Aug 18, 2011
26,901
19,183
113
As great as Brady and belicheck and the team has been for 15 years (maybe the greatest dynasty in all of American sports) this is also an indictment on the weakness of the afc this whole time. Except for a decent ravens team, the manning colts at the end of their run, and the manning broncos, this confenrnce has been pathetic. And except for 2 years of the Rex jets, the afc east has been an embarrassment, allowing the pats to get the top 2 seeds way too many times in their run.

Especially the AFC East. The Pats have had the easiest road to the playoffs of any team in the NFL as a whole for over a decade. To their credit they then step it up in the playoffs.

And I'll call Brady one of the greatest of all time, but not the greatest. The difference in coaches and surrounding cast make picking a single player as the best in anything virtually impossible. Query, what would Montana or Marino or Elway done with the Pats over the last 15 years? Better that Brady? I don't know, but I can't rule it out.
 

MOBFreehold

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Some interesting points and can’t help but agree. None of the people in our group watching the game were/ are Pats fans but we were all absolutely stupefied on that one. My cousin (who’s a Dolphins fan) called it “the worst pick play I think I’ve ever seen; he just went and hit the defender like he wasn’t even trying to run a pattern. You had 4 officials all looking right at it. How doesn’t anyone call it?” I think your point might come into play here.


Joe P.

Obviously a young dolphin fan because Schulas Dolphins with Duper and Clayton ran pick plays every possession
 

RU_DIO

Heisman
Sep 1, 2002
17,250
17,699
113
Brady and the Pats are just amazing. Love the fact some RU players have had the opportunity to get to the Super Bowl with them. Im very happy for Jason this year.
 
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MOBFreehold

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Show me an example as bad as last night in a title game.


Joe P.

Again Pat's double teamed and engaged in illegal contact five yards down field. It is a play that could be called either way Sorry. Must be a Patriot fan if you can only see it as a Pick play. And as far as Duper and Clayton just watch any game Schula was kn rules committee and got away with a whole lot of things Muxh as Belichek does
 

JonathanAlan

Heisman
Jan 14, 2002
6,667
10,690
113
This is depressing.
I appreciate the greatness of both (Brady & Bill) and the fact that the NFL may never see a pairing like this again but I'm so tired of them.
Is it me or do the Pats get every big call? Was there compelling evidence to overturn the muffed punt? Really? For me I couldn't tell one way or the other so the call should stand.
Dan Shaugnessy is a fine Globe columnist and yesterday's column was about how the rest of America hates the Pats so us " Massholes need to unite."
 
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JoeRU0304

Heisman
Nov 9, 2005
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Again Pat's double teamed and engaged in illegal contact five yards down field. It is a play that could be called either way Sorry. Must be a Patriot fan if you can only see it as a Pick play. And as far as Duper and Clayton just watch any game Schula was kn rules committee and got away with a whole lot of things Muxh as Belichek does

Not a Pats fan but it’s clear you hate them, so anything that will make a case for them you will pretty much likely dismiss.


Joe P.
 
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ZekeAFroid

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Especially the AFC East. The Pats have had the easiest road to the playoffs of any team in the NFL as a whole for over a decade. To their credit they then step it up in the playoffs.

And I'll call Brady one of the greatest of all time, but not the greatest. The difference in coaches and surrounding cast make picking a single player as the best in anything virtually impossible. Query, what would Montana or Marino or Elway done with the Pats over the last 15 years? Better that Brady? I don't know, but I can't rule it out.

Come on...the 49ers of the 80's were basically an all-star team. Pretty much every year, Brady carries a bunch of JAGs on his back to the Super Bowl. You think guys like Edelman, Hogan, Burkhead, Dorsett, etc would be the players they are on other teams?
 
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