I get the sense that Carter Page is in a heap-o-trouble
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And Trump's not going to make it a month.... 2 months.... 100 days... a year.....
Anymore, I'll believe it when I see it.
If these ties are true, at the VERY LEAST it signals the Trump is HORRIBLE at vetting the people he hires to advise him in key positions. Why isn't that AT LEAST an issue for his lovers and crazed fans? The man hired a possible Russian agent as his foreign adviser, a self-identified foreign agent as his campaign chairman, and a liar as his national security advisor. But all of this Trump- Russia stuff is political smoke, and Trump is the smartest guy on the world, and it's all America first all the time, right?
And Hillary still lost the election........I wonder when all her
lovers and crazed fans will come to grips with that fact....nothing they do will magically drop her into the Oval Office.
Exactly. When I read the typed words from the likes of Best, Country, Moe, Boom, RPJ, and others, all I see is this:
Oh. Well in that case I guess all the different agencies and committees should just drop the investigations. Good catch born. Thanks for looking out.
Gee...is that what we all want? I really thought that was how the political process worked in this nation too, if the President gets impeached....the runner up gets put into office.....that's not how it works? I don't really care about my President having possible ties to a foreign attempt to influence our election process at all. Even if he did, it doesn't say anything about his character, does it? I just want that frumpy pantsuit wearing Clinton in charge, and I'm willing to allow our election process to be compromised in order for it to happen, cause what matters is winning not the democratic process.
NOTE THE SARCASM PLEASE
Did you photoshop the big blue M off the front of your pic there? Good work.Exactly. When I read the typed words from the likes of Best, Country, Moe, Boom, RPJ, and others, all I see is this:
Hillary losing the election/Trump winning the election, says more about us, you and I, the voters, than it does Hillary or Trump.
Never mentioned they should drop any investigations. You don't know the difference between a "Good catch" and a comment about some delusional folks?
I've yet to see anyone in this thread bring up Hillary taking over as President in this thread....before your post. You brought in an entirely made up argument. I'm betting next we will see something about Obama.
Not from me......President Obama ACTUALLY won a Presidential election.........NO......make that two Presidential elections.
Absolutely true. Biff has always lied out his arse, always been a salesman. Hillary was simply so bad, that we stooped below the Biff bar in voting for a president. Now that he is potus, his knuckledragging agenda now faces a reality we call congress.
Delusion is a tricky thing....usually those suffering from delusional thinking, seem to project the confusion in their own minds onto others actions. They see or read things that actually don't really happen, all in an attempt to confirm the internal narrative they crave in order to prevent dissonance when evaluating their skewed personal vision of the world.
Yes it is.......I don't suffer from it. I deal in facts and its a fact is that Trump is now the President.
And has nothing to do with Carter Page being in "a heap-o-trouble". No where in the linked article or subsequent posts in this thread has there been any mention of Trump not being President.
No it didn't.......BUT you are far to smart to not know what this thread is all about.
If only the parties weren't full of themselves and so fracked up we would have had real candidates to pick from.
Instead the DNC machine bowed to the Clintons and the GOP machine allowed a dozen people who didn't have a shot in hell of winning run along with Trump. The DNC should have told the CLintons to pack sand long before the primaries, and the GOP should have thrown their weight behind a Kasich and told Jeb, Cruz, etc. that they had zero chance of winning.
I actually give credit to the Trump admin for dropping these agents of Russia, once they came to light. We can discuss his extreme vetting of staff and what that means later. Like 3 years from now later. For now, I'd like to know who did what and if (big if) a crime was committed.
Totally agree! I like Rubio, Kasich wasn't too bad, imo. I liked less candidates from the dem side, but the deck was stacked to get Clinton in anyway.
YES....I certainly think he should have done a better job as other Presidents should have done better jobs on certain issues.
boomer I know you want to rake Trump over the coals but is all of this hyperbole and speculation going to make your case against him if none of it is true?
Where does it say he hired a 'Russian agent' as his campaign Chairman? Show me the fact on that charge and then let's see what the crime is? Who was the Russian agent hired as his Foreign advisor? Who's payroll is that guy on the KGB? And what lie did Mike Flynn tell? That whole episode was about a private conversation that was illegally leaked which had nothing to do with Trump, and involved details Flynn passed along to the Vice President in a totally unrelated matter outside of the Campaign.
Now there are questions about what influence if any the Russians had or tried to have on this past election. But there is not one fact proven or demonstrated in anything you just posted that ties Trump to Russia, or hired Russian double agents to help him run his campaign or owes Russia anything except a huge MYOB.
Dealing with more delusion. I said "possible Russian agent" as foreign adviser in his campaign. I also said "foreign agent" as campaign chair (Manafort admitted and registered as a foreign agent). And I was told by many rights on here that Flynn was fired for lying to (at least purposely misleading) the VP.
Now, I personally think there is much more to this, but I recognize my distrust of Trump drives that thought. I simply asked why his loyalists do not AT LEAST recognize that these hires were questionable hires, and show a lack of vetting by a President and Presidential candidate. It's just foolish to me that you loyalists can't recognize negative unless it comes from Obama or the frumpy pantsuit.
It says that 60+million of you fools that voted for Hillary should have your heads examined.
I liked his demeanor and speaking ability. I like any candidate that can reach across the aisle. His policies were moderate and he seemed like a Candidate that would work to find compromise in solutions.
I don't know, she ran on doing more for the environment, continuing the "forced" shift of the job market, and holding to dem principles that Obama asserted as Pres (gay rights, doing more for women, family planning support, help to families for child care). It's tough to see things you believe in shattered BB.
boomer you're treating speculation as if something nefarious actually happened. Manafort was not a "registered Foreign agent". For who? He was an investor, consultant, and part time political operative for Trump who volunteered to serve as his Campaign advisor (Chairman).
Flynn was asked for his resignation, but there was no crime and the alleged "lie" he told was actually an omission of a private meeting he had held with a Russian diplomat that had nothing to do with the Trump campaign.
Why should we worry about possible or potential Russian influence over Trump's campaign when nothing of the sort has either been proven or charged in terms of an indictment?
Where's the crime?
I don't seek information to support my internal narrative. I'm open to being wrong, and so I don't "filter to fit" but rather "process to learn"
Because he has Russian ties, he's an agent? I know a couple Russians. Well, they were adopted from Russia. Perhaps I'm a Russian agent.
Not compared to Cruz. Trump policy proposals were not conservative, but I didn't trust his policies would get initiated because I didn't (still don't) believe he can play political football well. Rubio was moderate, but I felt would get a lot done through his ability to work with Congress.