Scott Frost

[beerdawg69]

I am sure I will be hung over the coals for this post
I think/want Frost back next year. I am sick and tired of changing coaches every 4 or 5 years and starting over.
Let's hope if Frost stays. He makes a couple changes on his staff.
I might be in the keep Frost minority

 

[antirowboat]

So you care more about wanting Scott Frost to be the head coach than winning games. You also show you don't mind Nebraska football becoming Kansas and a has been program. You also show you don't mind having the worst coach in school history to be the head coach and also the worst statistical coach in the country at the P5 level. You also show you support losing seasons. You also show you support having the worst recruiting class in the Big Ten.

You might want to think through your thoughts a little more and actually understand what you are saying.

Like I said on Saturday, the Scott Frost cult members would show up on Wednesday. I was right.

 

[litespeedhuskerfan_rivals19671]

What if he goes winless the rest of the year and looks bad doing it?

 

[Sporty]

You might be sick of it but until you get to the right coach it is necessary. As has been pointed out no coach has been successful after the start Frost has had here. It is necessary to make the change. So because you are tired of the changes you are going to accept being worse than mediocre?

 

[T...Chafes]

I have a feeling these remaining 3 games are going to get ugly...The decision will be obvious at the end of the season.

 

[SuperBigFan]

I get it, I do, I want him to be great here too!

I don't get the "sick of coaching changes" unless you mean that you are sick of losing which leads to those changes?

1. Coaching searches are the next most fun thing to actually having teams in the hunt (Remember, even you Bo haters wanted him gone because he did not win enough)

2. It is great for radio, print and post boards (again, next best thing to being in the hunt)

3. I don't understand "starting over", year one doesn't have to be bad and if anything you could argue that next year, with a new coach, we could and will see major improvement

 

[SuperBigFan]

I have a feeling these remaining 3 games are going to get ugly...The decision will be obvious at the end of the season.

I think the decision has been made and he is gone UNLESS these last 3 games go well.

 

[redwine65]

the thing thats keeping hope for me in frost is, I guess he's building depth, fixing the culture and the d.
3 wins in 4 years, everybody on the offense, special teams, and questionable calls has me losing hope.

but it don't matter what I think, which maybe a good thing in the long run, or bad..
there are interesting choices on the coaching carousel. I'm now thinking that baylor coach if the wheels fall off the completely the next 3 games. thinking of other coaching possibilities helps me deal with 3-6 and ohio state on the way......
that's good therapy right there.

I think baylor's coach is black..which may help with the race war thing. but if you listen to him, he makes dr. tom sound like neon deion...he seems a real straight arrow...which I guess is what baylor needed after the whole rape crime scenes thing...

 

[egaRdeR]

So you care more about wanting Scott Frost to be the head coach than winning games. You also show you don't mind Nebraska football becoming Kansas and a has been program. You also show you don't mind having the worst coach in school history to be the head coach and also the worst statistical coach in the country at the P5 level. You also show you support losing seasons. You also show you support having the worst recruiting class in the Big Ten.

You might want to think through your thoughts a little more and actually understand what you are saying.

Like I said on Saturday, the Scott Frost cult members would show up on Wednesday. I was right.

This right here is a strawman.

While I don't agree with the OP I certainly see his view point. He clearly states he is tired of the coaching changes.

At least debate his points. You don't have to be a Frost cult member to be tired of coaching changes.

 

[Bhusker76]

I am sure I will be hung over the coals for this post
I think/want Frost back next year. I am sick and tired of changing coaches every 4 or 5 years and starting over.
Let's hope if Frost stays. He makes a couple changes on his staff.
I might be in the keep Frost minority

Frost should have made changes two years ago when it was obvious back then .The issues we face are with the person leading the program. Changing position coaches is not going to change our trajectory .Who' s idea was it to bring this staff from ucf? so after 4 losing seasons he gets to now make changes???

 

[antirowboat]

This right here is a strawman.

While I don't agree with the OP I certainly see his view point. He clearly states he is tired of the coaching changes.

At least debate his points. You don't have to be a Frost cult member to be tired of coaching changes.

A college football head coach is judged based on their win and loss record. Scott Frost is the worst head coach at the P5 level. It's reality.

The Scott Frost cult members showed up right on schedule. Its actually pretty funny I was spot on for the timing.

 

[WHCSC]

A college football head coach is judged based on their win and loss record

Unless they pee themselves on the sideline. Then all bets are off.

 

[93sker]

I am sure I will be hung over the coals for this post
I think/want Frost back next year. I am sick and tired of changing coaches every 4 or 5 years and starting over.
Let's hope if Frost stays. He makes a couple changes on his staff.
I might be in the keep Frost minority

I hear you and understand. I wasn't a huge fan of the hire several years ago given his limited experience and felt there would be some "learning on the job" which i think we're seeing. Having said that, the progress in some areas is undeniable. Unfortunately, the lack of progress in other areas is also undeniable.

I've heard from a few former players that part of the issue on the oline may be attributed to scheme and is more than just coaching (austin). I don't know what the right answer is (coaching vs scheme) but join your minority in giving Frost more time to figure it out & hope he solicits advice from TO as well......and yes, yes, yes...... i understand HCSF is responsible for both.

Certainly don't understand the allegiance to AM - that is baffling to me. I had a coach years ago who would tell the team non-stop "Talent is bs, you either do the job or you don't" Seems to fit AM like a glove but I just can't understand why that "mantra" fits every other position on the field (kicker, punter, OL) but doesn't seem to apply to the qb position. Baffling. Also don't understand why Yant isn't getting more touches - equally as baffling.

 

[redfanusa]

I agree in concept that Nebraska needs long-term coaching stability. But that assumes you have the right guy for the job. What about Scott Frost suggests he's the guy to build the program around? His choice of assistant coaches is suspect, his recruiting is suspect, his player development is suspect, and his play-calling is suspect. That doesn't even get into the allegations that he and the other "frat bro" assistants are living it up at local bars rather than working. So is Frost really the stable foundation on which to build a program long-term?

 

[egaRdeR]

A college football head coach is judged based on their win and loss record. Scott Frost is the worst head coach at the P5 level. It's reality.

The Scott Frost cult members showed up right on schedule. Its actually pretty funny I was spot on for the timing.

Don't be such a potato head. He said nothing about keeping him because he was "Scott Frost". You choose that narrative, not the OP.

And how short is your memory? You were a leader of that cult you keep spouting about just weeks ago.

Look, everyone has a line on what puts them over the edge on a coach. Some turn sooner, some turn later. It doesn't make anyone a better fan depending on when or if they change. It doesn't mean they must support losing or not want to succeed. It just means they have a different view as to what it will take to win.

 

[Husker Sledge]

People can try to spin things 1000 ways but Frost is not a very good coach. Time to move on after Iowa.

 

[leodisflowers]

I am sure I will be hung over the coals for this post
I think/want Frost back next year. I am sick and tired of changing coaches every 4 or 5 years and starting over.
Let's hope if Frost stays. He makes a couple changes on his staff.
I might be in the keep Frost minority

I agree with you on changing coaches and it is just such a tough decision that I am torn on because I really have seen progress this year, but at the end of the day losing all of these games is what matters. I said in another thread it is wild that we really should have probably won games against #3, #7, #8 and #20. All were there for the taking.

Scott Frost has:

#1 - Shored up the roster. That thing was a dumpster fire as far as gaps when he showed up, but we are pretty well stocked at most positions
#2 - The Defense has gotten a ton better and has done more than enough to make us compete. There are a few in there, but we weren't having the massive blowouts that were happening under Pelini at the end and Riley (losing games is still embarrassing)
#3 - We seem to have the right size for the Big 10 now. I'm still skeptical on our S&C, but at least we aren't getting just dominated at the point of attack anymore.
#4 - Should have won quite a few games against ranked opponents. We have been the better team, just poorly coached.

Scott Frost hasn't:
#1 - Won games. You have to win period. Can't be close, have to win.
#2 - Moved away from Adrian and either recruited or developed another QB. ******* try someone else. It's not that hard, you are losing anywayssssssss.
#3 - Developed Talent - There has been some progress, but also some holes.
#4 - Brought in the right coaching staff. This one is tougher because he could have punted on Chins, but we continue to see progress with that said he has had prime opportunities to fix this and hasn't. Special Teams is just ridiculous.
#5 - Refer to 1 because this is what matters.

I'm curious what our fan base would be like if we were lighting up the scoreboard, but losing shootouts, instead of having our offense drag a little? Would it be the same conversation about shitcanning Frost, or would we say get rid of Chins and figure out that side of the ball? It's interesting because either way you are losing. I'm not a Frost Apologist at all and think he should be canned because he can't win games, but it is a tough decision for Trev because I will say this is the first year I would say I see progress. That itself is a problem because it shouldn't be year 4 to get that, but I think since Trev has been here, he has possbily helped Scott become a lot tighter vs. his loosey goosey style with Moos here. Too bad Trev wasn't here a year earlier.

 

[antirowboat]

People can try to spin things 1000 ways but Frost is not a very good coach. Time to move on after Iowa.

They will be doing it for the next 20 years. It's what a cult following does.

 

[bigboxes]

I am sure I will be hung over the coals for this post
I think/want Frost back next year. I am sick and tired of changing coaches every 4 or 5 years and starting over.
Let's hope if Frost stays. He makes a couple changes on his staff.
I might be in the keep Frost minority

No

 

[redfanusa]

If we had the 15th best recruiting class rather than the 80th, I might say give Frost more time. Regardless of the reason, recruiting is awful right now. Forget the "players vs. coaching" debate, because right now Nebraska has neither.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

I am sure I will be hung over the coals for this post
I think/want Frost back next year. I am sick and tired of changing coaches every 4 or 5 years and starting over.
Let's hope if Frost stays. He makes a couple changes on his staff.
I might be in the keep Frost minority

It’s kind of cool being the “old” Iowa State of football.

 

[WHCSC]

They will be doing it for the next 20 years. It's what a cult following does.

Are you in the Matt Campbell cult then?

 

[9and4_rivals188421]

When Bo Pelini was let go, we were the second-best program in the West.

When Mike Riley was let go, we were the still the fourth-best program in the West (Riley's teams finished fourth, third and fifth).

We are now, unquestionably, the worst program in the Big Ten West. Frost is winless against Iowa and Wisconsin. He is 1-3 against Purdue and Minnesota. He is on a two-game losing streak to Illinois. He is 2-2 against Northwestern, but the 'Cats have won two divisional titles during Frost's time here at Nebraska. To advocate anything other than his dismissal is pure folly, unless he bucks every trend and beats OSU, Wisconsin and Iowa, teams he is 0-8 against the last three years.

Frost should be unemployed as soon as Nov. 7 if the anticipated bludgeoning goes down Saturday at Memorial Stadium.

 

[Husker Sledge]

If we had the 15th best recruiting class rather than the 80th, I might say give Frost more time. Regardless of the reason, recruiting is awful right now. Forget the "players vs. coaching" debate, because right now Nebraska has neither.

Recruiting is a huge concern. Along with player development, discipline, older players not understanding the basic concepts of the game , play calling, neglecting special teams. Where's a good pass rusher? It goes on and on and on. It's not like he was hired yesterday. Seems to me a school over in the East division is doing pretty well under a year 1 coach.

 

[beaglehusker]

Don't be such a potato head. He said nothing about keeping him because he was "Scott Frost". You choose that narrative, not the OP.

And how short is your memory? You were a leader of that cult you keep spouting about just weeks ago.

Look, everyone has a line on what puts them over the edge on a coach. Some turn sooner, some turn later. It doesn't make anyone a better fan depending on when or if they change. It doesn't mean they must support losing or not want to succeed. It just means they have a different view as to what it will take to win.

Don't bother with that tool. Not his first handle. He covers all his bases so he can tout being right.

 

[beerdawg69]

I agree with you on changing coaches and it is just such a tough decision that I am torn on because I really have seen progress this year, but at the end of the day losing all of these games is what matters. I said in another thread it is wild that we really should have probably won games against #3, #7, #8 and #20. All were there for the taking.

Scott Frost has:

#1 - Shored up the roster. That thing was a dumpster fire as far as gaps when he showed up, but we are pretty well stocked at most positions
#2 - The Defense has gotten a ton better and has done more than enough to make us compete. There are a few in there, but we weren't having the massive blowouts that were happening under Pelini at the end and Riley (losing games is still embarrassing)
#3 - We seem to have the right size for the Big 10 now. I'm still skeptical on our S&C, but at least we aren't getting just dominated at the point of attack anymore.
#4 - Should have won quite a few games against ranked opponents. We have been the better team, just poorly coached.

Scott Frost hasn't:
#1 - Won games. You have to win period. Can't be close, have to win.
#2 - Moved away from Adrian and either recruited or developed another QB. ****ing try someone else. It's not that hard, you are losing anywayssssssss.
#3 - Developed Talent - There has been some progress, but also some holes.
#4 - Brought in the right coaching staff. This one is tougher because he could have punted on Chins, but we continue to see progress with that said he has had prime opportunities to fix this and hasn't. Special Teams is just ridiculous.
#5 - Refer to 1 because this is what matters.

I'm curious what our fan base would be like if we were lighting up the scoreboard, but losing shootouts, instead of having our offense drag a little? Would it be the same conversation about shitcanning Frost, or would we say get rid of Chins and figure out that side of the ball? It's interesting because either way you are losing. I'm not a Frost Apologist at all and think he should be canned because he can't win games, but it is a tough decision for Trev because I will say this is the first year I would say I see progress. That itself is a problem because it shouldn't be year 4 to get that, but I think since Trev has been here, he has possbily helped Scott become a lot tighter vs. his loosey goosey style with Moos here. Too bad Trev wasn't here a year earlier.

Couldn't agree more, I'm not a Frost cult member, trust me I was torn on the keep Frost or fire Frost. Huskers have made some huge strides this year. I do believe we are close, are we there yet. No. But I am tired of changes coaches every 4 or 5 years. If Trev keeps Frost great. If Trev fires Frost it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[ThunderPhillips_rivals499044]

The players are making comments about listening to the coaches and still losing. They will start to see the finish line and Ohio state could get ugly. Recruits are seeing it too. Why come here when your coach is most likely gone soon. Let someone else start fresh and build momentum. Bringing a guy back for his 5th year on a downturn could set it back even more.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

the thing thats keeping hope for me in frost is, I guess he's building depth, fixing the culture and the d.
3 wins in 4 years, everybody on the offense, special teams, and questionable calls has me losing hope.

Im confused by your comment on fixing the culture?

 

[redwine65]

Im confused by your comment on fixing the culture?

some say folks were not working out like they should under riley, maybe some other stuff I don't know of
with trev, frost and davison...I suppose they would know how things should be

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Recruiting is a huge concern. Along with player development, discipline, older players not understanding the basic concepts of the game , play calling, neglecting special teams. Where's a good pass rusher? It goes on and on and on. It's not like he was hired yesterday. Seems to me a school over in the East division is doing pretty well under a year 1 coach.

Spot on!

I have asked this question of Frost supporters since the conclusion of his second year.

-Can you name a great head coach who took over a program and had a losing season their first four years, then turned the program into a national power?
I continue to wait and do not expect an answer because that coach does not exist.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

some say folks were not working out like they should under riley, maybe some other stuff I don't know of
with trev, frost and davison...I suppose they would know how things should be

Gothcha.

I was questioning because even though the kids are working out, unfortunately it doesn’t seem to be helping on the field. I also question the Frost culture as the team doesn’t know how to win, voted to not play a bowl game last year with division amongst players, have a lot of players transferring, etc.

Thanks for replying back.

 

[t7w0c1_rivals]

So you care more about wanting Scott Frost to be the head coach than winning games. You also show you don't mind Nebraska football becoming Kansas and a has been program. You also show you don't mind having the worst coach in school history to be the head coach and also the worst statistical coach in the country at the P5 level. You also show you support losing seasons. You also show you support having the worst recruiting class in the Big Ten.

You might want to think through your thoughts a little more and actually understand what you are saying.

Like I said on Saturday, the Scott Frost cult members would show up on Wednesday. I was right.

Good grief with the agree with me or you're dumb as **** post.

 

[Husker Sledge]

Spot on!

I have asked this question of Frost supporters since the conclusion of his second year.

-Can you name a great head coach who took over a program and had a losing season their first four years, then turned the program into a national power?
I continue to wait and do not expect an answer because that coach does not exist.

Yep......and we're probably looking at just 3 wins in year 4! 2 of them Fordham and Buffalo. That's just brutal. Especially with this roster. Iowa might be a 40% chance (max) of winning where things sit right now.

 

[JOHNNY N]

So you care more about wanting Scott Frost to be the head coach than winning games. You also show you don't mind Nebraska football becoming Kansas and a has been program. You also show you don't mind having the worst coach in school history to be the head coach and also the worst statistical coach in the country at the P5 level. You also show you support losing seasons. You also show you support having the worst recruiting class in the Big Ten.

You might want to think through your thoughts a little more and actually understand what you are saying.

Like I said on Saturday, the Scott Frost cult members would show up on Wednesday. I was right.

You haven't been right. You just jump off and on the bandwagon every other day.

 

[jteten]

Barring a win out miracle, he is gone. It’s not up for debate or discussion anymore, regardless of what everyone wants. Trev will do what’s best for Nebraska.

 

[antirowboat]

This is how things have gone for the Scott Frost cult members.....

Start of season = just make a bowl game
Middle part of the season = just needs 5 wins
End of season = doesn't need to win any games.

 

[Headcard]

I think the decision has been made and he is gone UNLESS these last 3 games go well.

What makes you say that?

 

[SuperBigFan]

I agree with you on changing coaches and it is just such a tough decision that I am torn on because I really have seen progress this year, but at the end of the day losing all of these games is what matters. I said in another thread it is wild that we really should have probably won games against #3, #7, #8 and #20. All were there for the taking.

Scott Frost has:

#1 - Shored up the roster. That thing was a dumpster fire as far as gaps when he showed up, but we are pretty well stocked at most positions
#2 - The Defense has gotten a ton better and has done more than enough to make us compete. There are a few in there, but we weren't having the massive blowouts that were happening under Pelini at the end and Riley (losing games is still embarrassing)
#3 - We seem to have the right size for the Big 10 now. I'm still skeptical on our S&C, but at least we aren't getting just dominated at the point of attack anymore.
#4 - Should have won quite a few games against ranked opponents. We have been the better team, just poorly coached.

Scott Frost hasn't:
#1 - Won games. You have to win period. Can't be close, have to win.
#2 - Moved away from Adrian and either recruited or developed another QB. ****ing try someone else. It's not that hard, you are losing anywayssssssss.
#3 - Developed Talent - There has been some progress, but also some holes.
#4 - Brought in the right coaching staff. This one is tougher because he could have punted on Chins, but we continue to see progress with that said he has had prime opportunities to fix this and hasn't. Special Teams is just ridiculous.
#5 - Refer to 1 because this is what matters.

I'm curious what our fan base would be like if we were lighting up the scoreboard, but losing shootouts, instead of having our offense drag a little? Would it be the same conversation about shitcanning Frost, or would we say get rid of Chins and figure out that side of the ball? It's interesting because either way you are losing. I'm not a Frost Apologist at all and think he should be canned because he can't win games, but it is a tough decision for Trev because I will say this is the first year I would say I see progress. That itself is a problem because it shouldn't be year 4 to get that, but I think since Trev has been here, he has possbily helped Scott become a lot tighter vs. his loosey goosey style with Moos here. Too bad Trev wasn't here a year earlier.

Bo's last season there was a 25 point loss to Wisconsin. He did not coach the Bowl game did he?
So his other two losses, MSU and Minny were be a combined 9 points.

 

[SuperBigFan]

What makes you say that?

I guess it is just how I would look at it. Right now, if I was AD I would have seen more bad than good.

 

[BuckysBoys1]

I think the decision has been made and he is gone UNLESS these last 3 games go well.

So you think TA has already fired Frost without knowing who is available or willing to replace him? I don’t think they fire him unless a superstar coach is waiting and NU isn’t getting any star coaches at this point. I think Frost gets one more year and is told to replace some assistants who are underperforming.