I had a feeling he would make some changes if necessary, my biggest concern is Chin. Can Frost fire his best friend if it comes down to it? Maybe it wouldn't be a firing. Maybe it would be a coaching rearrangement. Moving him to a positional coach and bringing in another D coordinatorand here we kept hearing how Frost won’t make any changes
Word is out on the street that Troy Walters
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That’s one move I wouldn’t mind. Honestly I’d rather see us go back to the 4-3. Seems like the move to 3-4 is when our defense took a dive. I know it’s two different systems and you need the LBs and DLine to run the 3-4.
I wouldn't get too bought in to the idea that Chin is going anywhere soon. I think he's a bright enough guy that he'll get things figured out. These past 2 recruiting classes are going to help that immensely IMO. We've needed a couple of difference makers on defense that we've lacked for a long time.
Could be Lubick is replacing Walters and Helfrich is going to be a offensive analysis for a year as reported..
Beckton might be leaving, too.
Regardless, you could have Helfrich as O.C./Asst Head Coach, and then hire a WR/TE coach.
I think a Helfrich hire would be great, and like some others, I'm confused by some of the posts implying that becoming like Oregon would be a bad thing. From '09-'15 when Helfrich/Frost were OCs, Oregon averaged 11 wins per year in a P5 conference. If we want a better resume or more of a guarantee than that, we better find a way to get Saban, Swinney or Meyer to NU.
The downplaying, on this board, of Oregon and the success they had is mind boggling to me. Under Chip, they finished #11,#3,#4 and #2 and won the Pac-12 three times. The next two years, under Helfrich, they finished #9 and #2, with another Pac-12 Championship.
No offense but this is BS.
Plenty of terrible coaching went on this yer during games.
Frost hasn't done sht to make excuses for him
His dumb coaching cost us games too.
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This wouldn’t be a bad option either he is currently LSU receiving Asst Coach and would have could ties in the Louisiana/ Houston area...
Doing anything other than bitching about coaching and screaming about play calls is now making excuses.
If that happened, it would be interesting to see what happens with the OC title.
LSU's offense has been very dynamic this past year. We can't hire their OC so maybe somebody who at least knows their offense and has coached it might be an option to bring some of that philosophy up to the great white north IF Walters leaves. One would think it would take the OC title to get him to leave LSU. It really wouldn't be all that surprising IF Troy left. He drug his heels waiting on a HC job before he finally agreed to come with Frost. IF he want's to climb the ladder his options are to go somewhere where he actually has play calling duties, wait it out at NU and hope we have a breakout year soon, OR take a lower level head coaching gig.
Oregon ran the **** out of the ball when Helfrich was the head coach and Frost was the OC. Google Royce Freeman.
and even in that 4-8 season after Frost left, the offense scored 35 pts/game. The defense was the main problem, giving up almost 42 ppg.
that was with Chip as HC, but yeah, the point still stands. James, Freeman, DeAnthony Thomas, Kenjon Barner, Legarette Blount plus a bunch of guys at QB that were good runners - it's always been a staple of the good Oregon teams.
That was obvious from the very first game of year 1 that it wasn't just the players to blame. I'm glad there finally seems to be some accountability in the program and we're making some much needed changes.
That only works if Helrich gets to run the offense and call the plays. Can't really hire a coach that doesn't coach a position group and still have Frost call the plays.
Did Frost really call the plays? He generally seemed pretty quiet when they put the camera on him from what I saw. Now maybe, he had already called it and obviously, he could overrule, but I feel like Walters called the majority of the game.
And I don’t see SF not wanting to call his own plays... He wants to take after TO...