Noah Vedral = Joey Ganz

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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.
 

TheBeav815

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Slow down. Vedral did a nice job the last few drives he has played. He was also awful last year when Martinez looked light years ahead of him.

Need a bigger body of work before we go making bold declarations.
 

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He looked more decisive than AM. The first QB draw got 7 or 8 yards and seemed to give the team a positive boost. The next play false start jacked them up...
 
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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.
KSU. KU hung over 70 on Cosgove.
 

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Just Ganz? I was thinking more like a mobile Joe Montana with just a hint of Tom Brady?

Whatever "it" is, Vedral has "it".
 

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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.
Airing it out isn’t really his strength.
 
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He looked more decisive than AM. The first QB draw got 7 or 8 yards and seemed to give the team a positive boost. The next play false start jacked them up...
And that was his one decent run. He also only had one decent throw. He was 2 of 5. His one throw went to wandale, who was our only offensive weapon yesterday
 

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Slow down. Vedral did a nice job the last few drives he has played. He was also awful last year when Martinez looked light years ahead of him.

Need a bigger body of work before we go making bold declarations.

He basically made one good throw and otherwise ran it up the middle with minimal success. He also made some poor throws, including a couple of lateral swing passes behind the receiver, and a hospital ball to Stoll. His four drives resulted in a total of two first downs.

Great for him that he led the winning drive, but let’s not get carried away. He’s a solid backup who knows the system and gives us a chance if AM goes down. People are frustrated because AM and the offense haven’t lived up to expectations for a variety of reasons. Subbing in a walk-on backup qb is not going to fix it.
 

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He did what he had to do to help the team win, but it's not like the offense caught fire and scored 4 td's with him in there.
 

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I just think when Martinez has been making so many bad plays/decisions that you at least put in Vedral for 1-2 series to give AM time to re-focus.

And if he so happens to light it up then so be it.
 

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And that was his one decent run. He also only had one decent throw. He was 2 of 5. His one throw went to wandale, who was our only offensive weapon yesterday
Unfair statement or assessment of vedral. Who prolly practiced all week with the 1’s and who did not get reps with the first team? I am excited to roll the dice and see the backup get the reps and use his decisiveness to make a few extra first downs along the way as opposed to putting the Defense back on the field and let them rest more. I have not been impressed the AM touch on the ball except to a wide open deep receiver over the middle. AM seems all or nothing and I am ready for a guy that might not be as athletic but can manage the game better and make a play here or there to keep the ball and chains moving. Regardless of injury I think vedral gives us the best chance to win in these inclement weather conditions. AM may be better long term, but for next weekend I want the backup. Could AM have made that 35 yard sideline pass to our best player? Maybe at best. That pass changed the game and gave us a win. I give our best player (Mr. Kentucky) and the backup credit for the win.
 

barney44

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Slow down. Vedral did a nice job the last few drives he has played. He was also awful last year when Martinez looked light years ahead of him.

Need a bigger body of work before we go making bold declarations.

Agree, the body of work just isn’t there to make the claim that he is a better option.
 

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I will admit Martinez has definitely taken a step back this year....let him heal up and hope Vedral can ignite a stale offense. Hopefully this rings true and Martinez gets a kick in the arse watching offense go off and he becomes determined and focused!
 

barney44

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I will admit Martinez has definitely taken a step back this year....let him heal up and hope Vedral can ignite a stale offense. Hopefully this rings true and Martinez gets a kick in the arse watching offense go off and he becomes determined and focused!

I’m not sure we’ll be watching the offense go off by switching to our second string quarterback. We have numerous problems on offense.
 

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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.

How important is it to run the ball, when playing a Big Ten opponent?
 

little a

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I’m not sure we’ll be watching the offense go off by switching to our second string quarterback. We have numerous problems on offense.

Agreed-sometimes the best thing for a weak line is a quick, decisive qb
 

barney44

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How important is it to run the ball, when playing a Big Ten opponent?

Would be interesting to see Mike Leach in the B10 as a coach. I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t run much and I’m pretty sure he would still be a coach that many hate to face.
 

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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.
Small sample sized. He did look much quicker, not only in his physical speed but also mental processing and decision making. Im not ready to name him the starter 100%. I would like to see him play against MN. MN is a good enough team that it would be a good test for him and the offense, but not a juggernaut like Wisc or Ohio St that would give skewed results. This offense needs something different right now. He might be the piece that brings it to life.
 
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From his own mouth, Frost says Vedral is the most knowledgeable of his system. It is obvious when he's out there how quickly he runs it. I think Vedral has better movement and vision than Martinez. So far so good with decision making...throwing the ball away when he needs to, rolling outside of the pocket, reads. Still, we need to see more from him. I hope Frost gives him a shot.
 
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and Wandel = pork chop
Reminds me of this dude
 
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Just Ganz? I was thinking more like a mobile Joe Montana with just a hint of Tom Brady?

Whatever "it" is, Vedral has "it".
Not sure I agree. Vedral was in for 4 drives. 3 ened in punts and two 3& outs. Plus it's easy to look decisive when all your running plays are called QB runs. He does look faster than am to me however. I think we need atleast a full game of him before we make these sweeping judgements
 

dinglefritz

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Not sure I agree. Vedral was in for 4 drives. 3 ened in punts and two 3& outs. Plus it's easy to look decisive when all your running plays are called QB runs. He does look faster than am to me however. I think we need atleast a full game of him before we make these sweeping judgements
His one "good" pass was thrown directly towards me. It was not a pretty thing but it got there and Wandale made a great adjustment and catch. That said, I liked how quick he was with his reaction to bad snaps, pressure and covered receivers. I thought he looked poised and ready to play. I have no problem with him starting if AM is not able to go. After finally getting to see AM in person this year, I can agree with some of the assessments that something is physically wrong with AM. It looked pretty obvious to me before he went out with his injury.
 
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Solana Beach Husker

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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.

AM is in a sophmore slump...he has been given WAY too much responsibility for a 19 year old...Tommy Frazier was the most basic game manager in 1992-3...had an experienced team around him...AM is basically the "leader" of the offense as a true sophomore..that should NEVER happen...we see the same thing happening at Clemson. He should still be able to hand it to a 1000 yard rusher...or find a veteran WR on 3rd down..and have a reliable tackle that protects his backside, and a reliable center who can get him the ball. He doesn't have any of this...
 

Solana Beach Husker

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His one "good" pass was thrown directly towards me. It was not a pretty thing but it got there and Wandale made a great adjustment and catch. That said, I liked how quick he was with his reaction to bad snaps, pressure and covered receivers. I though he looked poised and ready to play. I have no problem with him starting if AM is not able to go. After finally getting to see AM in person this year, I can agree with some of the assessments that something is physically wrong with AM. It looked pretty obvious to me before he went out with his injury.
AM is a very good QB but is not the runner that our staff desired him to be....his passing will improve when his weapons improve...but there isn't a qb in the country who would thrive with what we have...we have WR who cannot get open and do not make plays...we have no true backs, and no run game...Mills still struggles with hitting holes in this current offense. We basically have no offense outside of a true freshman scat back...and so judgement on the qb can't be made.
 

dinglefritz

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AM is a very good QB but is not the runner that our staff desired him to be....his passing will improve when his weapons improve...but there isn't a qb in the country who would thrive with what we have...we have WR who cannot get open and do not make plays...we have no true backs, and no run game...Mills still struggles with hitting holes in this current offense. We basically have no offense outside of a true freshman scat back...and so judgement on the qb can't be made.
IMO Mills is a very good back. He rarely has a hole to run to and he makes good yardage after contact. AM was a great runner last year. It's pretty obvious to me that he's playing with an injury of some sort so I'm not going to bash him. I still remember people bashing Ahman Green I think his soph year because he didn't run as well as he did as a freshman. Turned out Ahman played the entire year with the same injury Taylor Martinez had, a fractured fibula. Something's wrong with AM.
 
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And that was his one decent run. He also only had one decent throw. He was 2 of 5. His one throw went to wandale, who was our only offensive weapon yesterday

Wait! Your saying, when Noah struggles it’s his fault? When Adrian struggles it’s the OL, WR’s and RB’s fault? Okay, I got it now. Keep coming with that Adrian fanboy love.
 
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His one "good" pass was thrown directly towards me. It was not a pretty thing but it got there and Wandale made a great adjustment and catch. That said, I liked how quick he was with his reaction to bad snaps, pressure and covered receivers. I thought he looked poised and ready to play. I have no problem with him starting if AM is not able to go. After finally getting to see AM in person this year, I can agree with some of the assessments that something is physically wrong with AM. It looked pretty obvious to me before he went out with his injury.
Am definitely looks different than last year. I think it's a multi facited problem were having on offense and a lot of people try to make these sweeping knee jerk reaction judgements that it's all am. Am is struggling, but we also haven't replaced any of the seniors we lost last year with like talent. Some of that is youth and inexperience.for xample i think no by the time jurgens is a senior he'll be better than farmer.
 

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Wait! Your saying, when Noah struggles it’s his fault? When Adrian struggles it’s the OL, WR’s and RB’s fault? Okay, I got it now. Keep coming with that Adrian fanboy love.

That's total & complete horsesh*t. It's just a simple & true statement that Noah was having the same problems too. Who wouldn't?
 

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At this point Noah has accomplished roughly the same as Harrison Beck. One good completion that set up a FG.
 

barney44

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Wait! Your saying, when Noah struggles it’s his fault? When Adrian struggles it’s the OL, WR’s and RB’s fault? Okay, I got it now. Keep coming with that Adrian fanboy love.

People can call ot what they want but who here expects to solve our woes by changing out the quarterback? If it were as simple as that then we wouldn’t be struggling..
 

Redscarlet

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At this point Noah has accomplished roughly the same as Harrison Beck. One good completion that set up a FG.

No arguing that point..I look for him starting next week against Minnesota.. AM injury looked worse when hobbling back to the locker room..
 
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That's total & complete horsesh*t. It's just a simple & true statement that Noah was having the same problems too. Who wouldn't?

I didn’t say Noah wasn’t struggling. In fact I was saying that people aren’t making the same excuses for him that they have been making for Adrian. I would just like a little consistency from our fan base.

People can call ot what they want but who here expects to solve our woes by changing out the quarterback? If it were as simple as that then we wouldn’t be struggling..

I agree changing out our QB won’t cure all our problems. But it’s asinine to act as if the rest of our offensive unit is the reason for AM’s struggles. Some of his struggles are on him. If we’re being honest, there has been a lot of excuse making for Adrian by his fanboys.
 

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Yes, both are fast runners, good passers and have the "it" factor. Noah looked like he has the desire and the decisiveness to make the play.

I know when Bill Callahan let Ganz air it out, we hung over 70 on KU.

I hope they let Noah air it out against MN and show the fans he is the man for the job.

What the?! Trolling?