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Mack In Motion

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Propaganda machine in full effect. Had the last staff done this, the same people praising it ITT would be screaming mad. Hilarious

Lol. Out of nowhere.

Never know which post will trigger this each day but it never fails.

Just pick a random post and spaz.

Tomorrows screed might be about marshmallows.

Day after recruiting.

Early next week Soviet politics.
 

jolley

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Maybe I'm just getting tired of all the big talk from our coaches in public, who don't back it up on the field. Pelini said similar things as Davison - "we'll make our own stars". And who can forget Bill "we take what we want" Callahan? And don't forget about Bob Diaco and the big game that he talked.

There's no doubt that the effort last year wasn't good enough, and we lack depth at certain positions. But I don't think we have a lack of talent or high-character guys that Davison is implying. I haven't seen any of these guys getting in trouble off the field, it's certainly less than under previous coaches. The offense is full of 4-star players and has 2 of the best receivers in the country returning. I'm tired of the quotes about "we don't care about stars". Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. seem to care about stars and it's working out pretty well for them. Those stars that Callahan recruited made a poor coach like Pelini look good good for a few years - look what happened later when he tried to build his own stars.

I suspect you may be reading more into what he said than what was, actually, said by SF. And SF wasn't talking to the media like those other guys, trying to impress the public. He was talking to HIS team. Davison was just reiterating that. If anyone doesn't want to believe that stuff, and it is, somehow, painful to them, then maybe they shouldn't listen to it or read about it.
 

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Last staff = .500% lifetime coach who promptly through stupid game decisions had a losing season his first year, Current staff = coached a team to an undefeated season

Let's be honest here. Last staff=no Nebraska ties, this staff=Nebraska ties. Some of the stuff already on this board is the main reason Frost wasn't my first choice.
 
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I suspect you may be reading more into what he said than what was, actually, said by SF. And SF wasn't talking to the media like those other guys, trying to impress the public. He was talking to HIS team. Davison was just reiterating that. If anyone doesn't want to believe that stuff, and it is, somehow, painful to them, then maybe they shouldn't listen to it or read about it.
If thats the case Frost needs to be the one voice. I have no problem with that. But it seems a bit funny this seems to be the common approach.
 

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Let's be honest here. Last staff=no Nebraska ties, this staff=Nebraska ties. Some of the stuff already on this board is the main reason Frost wasn't my first choice.



Shoot, I don't care so much that it is Frost...I care that the bag of flour that was coaching here the last 3 years is gone. From the second he was hired all Husker fans were pissed.
 
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Maybe I'm just getting tired of all the big talk from our coaches in public, who don't back it up on the field. Pelini said similar things as Davison - "we'll make our own stars". And who can forget Bill "we take what we want" Callahan? And don't forget about Bob Diaco and the big game that he talked.

There's no doubt that the effort last year wasn't good enough, and we lack depth at certain positions. But I don't think we have a lack of talent or high-character guys that Davison is implying. I haven't seen any of these guys getting in trouble off the field, it's certainly less than under previous coaches. The offense is full of 4-star players and has 2 of the best receivers in the country returning. I'm tired of the quotes about "we don't care about stars". Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. seem to care about stars and it's working out pretty well for them. Those stars that Callahan recruited made a poor coach like Pelini look good good for a few years - look what happened later when he tried to build his own stars.

I could only stomach watching 2 games live last year and 1/2 game recorded. I saw 2/3 of the defense QUIT during the Minnesota game and an offensive line that was offensive and didn't try. I saw zero team effort and was appalled by the lack unity on the team. I do not believe Frost has any other option other than calling out the players. I've been a die hard fan since the 70's and did not recognize a Nebraska football team on the field. Heartbreaking.
 

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Ears burning? It's a fact, and your "like" on this post is as guilty as any. But then again, hypocrites cannot be consistent. It's not your fault, it's just what you are.

Again with the tinfoil conspiracy fantasy. Now I'm part of this imaginary group of me and my "like". Do you have a list of names??? Are there meetings?? Uniforms?? I knew that calling you out would cause a psycho response. Thanks for not letting me down.
 

jolley

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Let's be honest here. Last staff=no Nebraska ties, this staff=Nebraska ties. Some of the stuff already on this board is the main reason Frost wasn't my first choice.

Who is your first choice? Are you, by any chance, the real, incognito AD? Like the National enquirer used to say more or less, we all want to know. Otherwise it's not really people's choice, but only people's preference, unless your THE donor of substance we all hear might exist. .
 

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Even one of our football administrators apparently doesn't fully believe his buddy is capable of coaching up the talent on the team. This is kind of sad. He's the best hire possible, there is no reason for excuses before they have even practiced for the first time. Very sad.

Where is there an excuse, he is just pointing out how bad you’re buddy’s hire was and what turned out because of it.
 

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Let's be honest here. Last staff=no Nebraska ties, this staff=Nebraska ties. Some of the stuff already on this board is the main reason Frost wasn't my first choice.
Do you really think that if Nebraska had landed Herman last year or say Chip Kelley this year that the coach would not be given more leeway than Riley? Frost yes is a NU guy - does not change the fact we are extremely lucky to have him
 
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Do you really think that if Nebraska had landed Herman last year or say Chip Kelley this year that the coach would not be given more leeway than Riley? Frost yes is a NU guy - does not change the fact we are extremely lucky to have him

Yes Frost has more leeway than others would have.
 
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Maybe I'm just getting tired of all the big talk from our coaches in public, who don't back it up on the field. Pelini said similar things as Davison - "we'll make our own stars". And who can forget Bill "we take what we want" Callahan? And don't forget about Bob Diaco and the big game that he talked.

There's no doubt that the effort last year wasn't good enough, and we lack depth at certain positions. But I don't think we have a lack of talent or high-character guys that Davison is implying. I haven't seen any of these guys getting in trouble off the field, it's certainly less than under previous coaches. The offense is full of 4-star players and has 2 of the best receivers in the country returning. I'm tired of the quotes about "we don't care about stars". Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. seem to care about stars and it's working out pretty well for them. Those stars that Callahan recruited made a poor coach like Pelini look good good for a few years - look what happened later when he tried to build his own stars.

What the hell are you talking about? Bo at NU had seven consecutive years of 9 or 10 wins.
 

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How much leaway do you give a 63 year old career .500 coach- who when he left his team- a new guy took them to ONE PLAY AWAY from playing in a national championship? Riley had NO credibility and deserved to be on an extremely short leash

OTOH Scott Frost has won BIG everywhere he has been
He's young- has proved he is committed and harder working than the previous staff
Finished 13-0 last year
Has SIGNIFICANTLY improved our recruiting compared to our other previous coaches first year out
Has been mentored by some of the greatest minds ever in the game

And thanks to the effort and ineptness of the previous loser staff- the program is in the worst position it has been in- 56 YEARS

HE DESERVES a wider berth- he's EARNED the right
HEs is a MUCH deeper hole- thanks to the total ineptness and laziness of the previous staff
 
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Which is not to say that Riley had no leeway or that Frost's leeway has no limitations. Riley didn't get a raw deal.

Who said he did? The post I replied to mentioned Herman and Kelly and whether or not they would be given less leeway than Frost will get.

No mention of Riley by me. So sing a different tune.
 
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Is it just me or have there been a lot of threads lately that are just plain stupid?
Does Frost get more leeway than Riley? Or Bo? Or Cally? Are Frost supporters inconsistent hypocrites? Are the Riley crybabies still upset that they were wrong last year and are "butt hurt"?
Geez people.
99.9% of the people on this board, by the end of last year, wanted Riley fired and Frost hired.
We should all be unified right now and talking football, instead of this childish ********.

End of self righteous rant.
 
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Maybe I'm just getting tired of all the big talk from our coaches in public, who don't back it up on the field. Pelini said similar things as Davison - "we'll make our own stars". And who can forget Bill "we take what we want" Callahan? And don't forget about Bob Diaco and the big game that he talked.

There's no doubt that the effort last year wasn't good enough, and we lack depth at certain positions. But I don't think we have a lack of talent or high-character guys that Davison is implying. I haven't seen any of these guys getting in trouble off the field, it's certainly less than under previous coaches. The offense is full of 4-star players and has 2 of the best receivers in the country returning. I'm tired of the quotes about "we don't care about stars". Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. seem to care about stars and it's working out pretty well for them. Those stars that Callahan recruited made a poor coach like Pelini look good good for a few years - look what happened later when he tried to build his own stars.
I don’t believe there’s any basis for comparing Frost to Pelini or Callahan. For one thing, Frost has already shown he can build a winner from shambles. And he has already significantly improved our recruiting in less than 2 months. Pelini and Callahan trashed our traditions; Frost celebrates them as building blocks for our future. I think Frost & Co are sending a clear message that the softness and lack of purpose or identity that characterized the last 20 years are dead and gone. So no, there is no comparison the prior inept coaches. In fact I’ll predict that Frost will turn our program around immeadiately and surpass the low expectations many have of a 6 or 7 win year.
 

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You and others keep talking about Bo as if he did a good job. I don't get it.

Jeeesh.....it's not that brutally difficult to "get it" that 9 or 10 wins annually is better than 4 or 5 wins. I don't know of even one person who says Bo did a good job.....just a hell of a lot better than Clownahan or MR. Let me help you again....

a. Clownahan & MR.....combined seven years with FOUR losing seasons

b. Bo.....seven years with ZERO losing seasons

Maybe that helps?
 

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For those who dont think this team was made to be soft as pillows under Riley- see what Frost and Co are doing. They aren't taking any prisoners. Look for lots of new faces in the starting lineup- JUCOs, Freshmen and those who choose to buy in

“The coaching staff is going to make sure if players aren’t doing what they’re supposed to be doing, there will be consequences,” he said.

“And they’re not going to like it,” said Davison.

And not everyone is going to make it with this new staff, Davison said. That was the message from day one under Frost.

“Stood there the first day and said, ‘Here’s what we’re going to ask of you. And it’s going to be a heck of a lot of fun for those of you who stay and make it and are a part of this deal. Some of you probably aren’t going to make it, and that’s OK because we’re going to get rid of the guys who can’t make it,’ ” Davison said.

The roster needs to be “flipped” Davison said. It needs guys who are willing to compete.
Wow - that isn’t very nice. I absolutely love it!!!
 

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Jeeesh.....it's not that brutally difficult to "get it" that 9 or 10 wins annually is better than 4 or 5 wins. I don't know of even one person who says Bo did a good job.....just a hell of a lot better than Clownahan or MR. Let me help you again....

a. Clownahan & MR.....combined seven years with FOUR losing seasons

b. Bo.....seven years with ZERO losing seasons

Maybe that helps?
9/10 wins against shotty competition is the Iowa Special.
Even Riley won 9.
Give me a competent team that is competitive and wins the big games more times than it loses.
 

B1G RED RULES

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I don't like that he's publicly criticizing current players like this. It's fine to be honest with them face-to-face, but telling the media that "character wasn't looked at enough" and we need better players isn't going to help the current guys buy-in.
Sorry, but I disagree. We saw what nice got us. We saw what nice got Mike Riley in his “so called” career. I’m ready for something different.
 
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Who said he did? The post I replied to mentioned Herman and Kelly and whether or not they would be given less leeway than Frost will get.

No mention of Riley by me. So sing a different tune.
But that is not what I posted "Do you really think that if Nebraska had landed Herman last year or say Chip Kelley this year that the coach would not be given more leeway than Riley? "

The post was meant to point out that coaches with a proven track record of success get more wiggle room than .500% experienced coach. This because they have shown high levels of success elsewhere fan bases are more patient since they know what they are capable of.
 
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But that is not what I posted "Do you really think that if Nebraska had landed Herman last year or say Chip Kelley this year that the coach would not be given more leeway than Riley? "

The post was meant to point out that coaches with a proven track record of success get more wiggle room than .500% experienced coach. This because they have shown high levels of success elsewhere fan bases are more patient since they know what they are capable of.


Frost has the shortest track record of all the coaches mentioned and will have more leeway than all mentioned.

With that said I would not expect Kelly or Herman’s to need the fans to make excuses before they have Conducted a practice
 
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9/10 wins against shotty competition is the Iowa Special.
Even Riley won 9.
Give me a competent team that is competitive and wins the big games more times than it loses.


Yeah, the mighty MR got 9 wins "once" in three tries (zero 10 win seasons).....the other two years for "5" wins.....and "4" wins. So competent & competitive!

No one is saying Bo was great.....just massively better than the Beaver clown.
 

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Frost has the shortest track record of all the coaches mentioned and will have more leeway than all mentioned.

With that said I would not expect Kelly or Herman’s to need the fans to make excuses before they have Conducted a practice
Is it an excuse to point out why NU has a football team that is really bad right now. I think most would say it is denial to not point these things out. Obviously we have major problems anyone that watches football can see that
 

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I don’t believe there’s any basis for comparing Frost to Pelini or Callahan. For one thing, Frost has already shown he can build a winner from shambles. And he has already significantly improved our recruiting in less than 2 months. Pelini and Callahan trashed our traditions; Frost celebrates them as building blocks for our future. I think Frost & Co are sending a clear message that the softness and lack of purpose or identity that characterized the last 20 years are dead and gone. So no, there is no comparison the prior inept coaches. In fact I’ll predict that Frost will turn our program around immeadiately and surpass the low expectations many have of a 6 or 7 win year.

I, too, get tired of rehashing the past as its only value is to learn from it to try not to make similar mistakes. To get back to the original post, Davison and Frost are analyzing some of the culture in what was present when they started to be able to correct the negative aspects of the established culture to change it. That is all that is going on. There is no diabolical plot to undermine the previous staff's reputation or well being.

That is why they were hired to replace what was there. Davison was fulfilling an assignment given to him, I am sure, by the athletic department. He fulfilled it, probably, by answering several questions that were posed He did the assignment honestly, without malice of forethought and without an alterior motive. He was just reporting what he (at least thought) he heard from the horses mouth. What was so terrible about that.

As far as BP is concerned, he won some games, but when all was said and done, he wasn't going to improve much from what he had shown in 7 years, and, frankly, he wasn't worth keeping. Neither were BC or MR. As is obvious, they were not enhancing the brand and were, obviously, detrimental to it and they weren't going to (even potentially) get any better, or at least not anywhere near enough to be worth keeping.

SF on the other hand, has a lot of upside and potential to enhance the brand. In fact, he already has even if, god forbid, it is only temporary.

Yes, he is a favored son, but what in haddes is so bad about that. He will get more leeway, if, for nothing else, because the environment and culture need a big time rebuild from what it was just a few months ago.

Don't take it so personally, everyone, SF is the coach and that isn't going to change anytime soon. So, if fans are indeed fans, then get behind him and hope for the best. And I wonder what some critics think. If SF can't win at NU, then who do they think can?
 

Harry Caray

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Sorry, but I disagree. We saw what nice got us. We saw what nice got Mike Riley in his “so called” career. I’m ready for something different.

I was never a big fan of Riley and I wanted us to hire Frost. But the "we don't care about recruiting stars" and "we need to bring back the walk-on program" are the same talking points we heard from Pelini when he was hired. I guarantee you that Meyer, Saban, Dabo etc. care about recruiting stars. They're not dominating because of their great walk-on programs.

It's also crap to insinuate that we've sucked the last few years because Riley didn't consider the character of recruits. Riley brought in many high-character guys. Osborne brought in many guys with questionable character.