Yep, like I said they bring nothing to the table as far as adding value to any power 5 conference. That may change at some point in time, but not in the near future. Their bandwagon fans can cry about how it isn't fair, but it is what it is. If they start showing up to games they might be taken seriously.
No respect for UCF
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I think the problem I have with it is that this line of thinking is coming out right now by UCF. I didn't hear this line of thinking when they went 0-12 or 6-6 so I'm wondering if they are reaching a bit here and using the "they are afraid to play us" dialog to further support their NC agenda.
There is no doubt that scheduling outside of P5 has its disadvantages but I don't think the "fear" of playing them is very high on that list. I believe most of the teams that will play a G5 are more interested in getting them cheap and not having to do a home and away series. The better non-P5 demand more. So if you have to pay P-5 prices to get them you might as well go P-5 anyway. Especially when it looks better on your schedule strength.
I agree, its a very remote possibility under the current format. If they expand the playoffs to 8 teams with 5 P5 conference champions and 3 at-large births, a team like UCF is likely in; otherwise not.
I would like to agree with you but Frost took over a team that was 0-12. However UCF obviously had plenty of talented players that were not utilized to their potential. I think Nebraska fans hope that he can do the same thing for them.
So. We can't force someone to play us. I'm sure UCF would love a home and home with Nebraska. I'm sure a lot of people would like to watch Frost play his old team and it's new coach.
FYI, you're responding to an Iowa troll pretending to be a Husker fan.
We have a few of them up here. Day after day. Weird af.
UCF has no where to go but down, and Nebraska has no where to go but up. Unless Heupel goes undefeated again, he will be considered a worse coach than Frost.
I'm sure you would like a home and home with us. Why would we want one with you? To help you sell out your little stadium for the first time? As far as us......we will sell it out regardless of who it is. We don't give home and home to teams like UCF. Especially from a G5 who averages about 20K per game.
You seem to be under the assumption that P5 teams are scared to play you. At least it is a drum you keep beating. That is not the case. It just doesn't make any financial sense. And there is a strong risk that we schedule G5 teams 3 years out and by the time we play them they are a down and out program. Then it all hurts your strength of schedule. Most blue bloods don't want to take a chance with a one hit wonder.
I for one would love to see Nebraska play only D1 teams and the best there is.
I respect Ohio State for scheduling OU and UT.
Nebraska scheduled Oregon which was a great team when scheduled, now that Kelly is gone they aren't so much but it's hit or miss sometimes.
I would love to see Nebraska schedule USC, Alabama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Texas, LSU, Georgia, Washington. Schedule the best teams people want to watch so we can get more T.V. time.
We have the best coach we're gonna have for a while. Might as well get it all out there, bump the OOC competition up. Schedule Florida too.
I respect Ohio State for scheduling OU and UT.
Nebraska scheduled Oregon which was a great team when scheduled, now that Kelly is gone they aren't so much but it's hit or miss sometimes.
I would love to see Nebraska schedule USC, Alabama, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Texas, LSU, Georgia, Washington. Schedule the best teams people want to watch so we can get more T.V. time.
We have the best coach we're gonna have for a while. Might as well get it all out there, bump the OOC competition up. Schedule Florida too.
Wow, WOW! Not even worth more of a response.
Good luck to your team going forward.
If you want to be taken seriously at least get your facts right. UCF averaged 36,846 this season.
http://www.essency.net/ucfsport/attendance.html
http://www.essency.net/ucfsport/attendance.html
Capacity: 45,323
2012 Attendance: 34,608 (68th)
"After playing in the dilapidated Citrus Bowl for years, the Knights moved into a brand new, on-campus facility in 2007. It’s one of the newest facilities in the nation, is one of the AAC’s bigger on-campus venues and has excellent surrounding scenery. Additionally, considering UCF’s massive student body population, the building has been built to expand to seat 65,000 if an upper deck is needed. That said, the building is said to be lacking in character and nearly 10,000 seats in its current configuration were empty each Saturday in 2012".
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-american-athletic-conferences-football-stadiums
2012 Attendance: 34,608 (68th)
"After playing in the dilapidated Citrus Bowl for years, the Knights moved into a brand new, on-campus facility in 2007. It’s one of the newest facilities in the nation, is one of the AAC’s bigger on-campus venues and has excellent surrounding scenery. Additionally, considering UCF’s massive student body population, the building has been built to expand to seat 65,000 if an upper deck is needed. That said, the building is said to be lacking in character and nearly 10,000 seats in its current configuration were empty each Saturday in 2012".
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/ranking-american-athletic-conferences-football-stadiums
"I'm sure UCF would love a home and home with Nebraska." Here in lies the problem what in the heck does UCF offer NU to go to Orlando?? small crowds losing out on a home game and no real respect if we win.
This same formula of whining, teams will not play us did not work for Boise and will not work for UCF - If UCF wants respect go on the road and play two good P5 teams/programs a year. It is only fair if you want to be treated as an equal to play a somewhat equal schedule
Otherwise its just whining
oops sorry @Huskercigar did not see your post above mine - but I completely agree with you
We sell out for our home games with P5 schools. We would certainly have a sell out for Nebraska. I think the tv share would be good too. So I take it Nebraska would play us in Nebraska?
Why wouldn’t we? We played Oregon here recently, will play OU here in a few years, have played UCF here in the past... at the same time we’ve played teams like NIU here as well.
UCF have shown that they can be very competitive. No shame in losing to a team like UCF.
I wouldn't mind seeing Nebraska play UCF. I would still watch, I like watching Nebraska play football period.
UCF has been pretty darn good over the last 10 years.
But if UCF has a bad season Nebraska wouldn't get the SOS respect, which sucks but it is what it is for now.
I wouldn't mind watching harder games, but that's me.
Go Big Red!!!
UCF has been pretty darn good over the last 10 years.
But if UCF has a bad season Nebraska wouldn't get the SOS respect, which sucks but it is what it is for now.
I wouldn't mind watching harder games, but that's me.
Go Big Red!!!
Support for the Status Quo:
UCF: What do we have to do to join your conference?
P5: Play top P5 teams.
UCF: want to schedule a home and home?
P5: No
UCF: Ok...will you play us at your home field
P5: No
UCF: We just went undefeated and were declared National Champs by the Colley Matrix poll. So we are at least co-champs.
P5: No. You didn't play anyone
UCF: But we beat Auburn who beat Alabama and Georgia?
P5: So. Auburn wasn't movtivated.
UCF: So? Go f...k yourself.
As stated in the CFP website:
Every FBS team has equal access to the College Football Playoff based on its performance. No team automatically qualifies.
UCF: What do we have to do to join your conference?
P5: Play top P5 teams.
UCF: want to schedule a home and home?
P5: No
UCF: Ok...will you play us at your home field
P5: No
UCF: We just went undefeated and were declared National Champs by the Colley Matrix poll. So we are at least co-champs.
P5: No. You didn't play anyone
UCF: But we beat Auburn who beat Alabama and Georgia?
P5: So. Auburn wasn't movtivated.
UCF: So? Go f...k yourself.
As stated in the CFP website:
Every FBS team has equal access to the College Football Playoff based on its performance. No team automatically qualifies.
Maybe this is simplistic, but I liken UCF to a team like Gonzaga in basketball. Year after year Gonzaga was really good, but never got the recognition for it. It wasn’t until sustained success year after year that Gonzaga started to get higher seeds for the NCAA tourney.
I know it isn’t fair, but if UCF continues to do this year after year, maybe they start getting the recognition they deserve. Make it so the NCAA can’t ignore what UCF is doing.
you guys have won what 3 road games against P5 schools since 2010? in fact your away record against P5 schools is 3-6
UCF is not a school P5 teams fear they just do not want to lose a home game revenue. You may sell out but you do not sell out at 90,000 seats
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If we were a P5 team our stadium would be expanded to 65,000 and would sell out. Besides, it looks like the Big10 is going to count the AAC as P5 competition for their OOC games. If this is correct things will definitely improve for the AAC IF we can win our games. All we want is the chance.
Ask your coach Frost what he thinks. Maybe you can give him a piece of your mind and tell him the system is fair.
Link for podcast with Aresco at soundcloud.com talking about the Big10 scheduling the AAC as P5 worthy competition.
http://redirect.viglink.com/?format...soundcloud.com/ightsameraports/l...ike-aresco
Good! I would love to see Nebraska regularly play down south...Houston, Orlando, that school to the south on I- 4 ...haha. I think it would be fantastic for Nebraska recruiting, not to mention seeing my Cornhuskers play my Midshipmen!!!
Please let this happen!
If we played your schedule we would be undefeated at least 3 times since 2009
That’s what Florida State did when they made their rise. They basically went anywhere and played anyone, whether or not it was a home and home. And mostly kicked ***, moved from an also ran to a blue blood.
Their first real break out season they finished #8 with this schedule going 11-1
S. Miss - win
ASU - win
Miami - win
@Vtech - win
@louisville - win
Miss state - win
@LSU - win
@ cinnc - win
S Carolina - win
memphis - win
@Florida - win
OU - loss
It took them 15 years form that point to be rated #1 and win a MNC all the while playing a good schedule and winning consistently 10 plus games
UCF just wants to skip over the 15 year part and not play a tough schedule
Exactly, most on the UCF side what it just given to them. You got to earn it. You are going to have to play lots of away games and not expect any big dog to come to your home. They didn't even have a football team 35 years ago. and only in D1 for 20 years. Only a member of conference for 15 years. First beat a top 10 team 4 years ago. I think they will eventually get to a power 5 but they all think it should just be given to them, based off of 5 years of decent football.
Another 0-12 UCF season would make me chuckle like the Road Runner does under his breath when the Coyote gets blown up by an excessive bundle of his own TNT or gets mashed by yet another poorly placed 15-ton weight.
P5 teams would rather play Mercer (Bammer) and NIU.
Most P5 would actually prefer Furman, Austin Peay and Maine every year but can’t get em scheduled.
But basketball is a different beast altogether. If we would win every game next year, which would be a tremendous feat no matter what conference your in, I'm still not sure if we would get into the playoffs. I hope we can do it but the odds are against us for sure.
I agree, but my point was that it took Gonzaga several years of great seasons before the NCAA gave them their due.
I think the better example that was shared after mine was Florida State. They got there over time, but it was a slow build. UCF can get there, but if they die it will come over time. Whether that’s fair or not, that’s what likely needs to happen.
P5 teams want no part of a good American conference team on the road. Hence why Michigan State and Wisconsin both had planned to come to Tampa in 2017 until USF was a top 20 team in 2016. Then they bought out or moved the games to the future. Penn State planned to come to Orlando in 2014 but after the 2013 season where UCF finished #10 they wanted to move the game to Ireland. UCF couldn't get a P5 team to come to Orlando in 2014 or 2015 after the success in 2013. The last couple years they got Maryland and Georgia Tech. In hindsight I doubt Georgia Tech was disappointed that the game was cancelled. Wait and see if Stanford will actually make the trip in 2019 assuming UCF is good in 2018 or if they buy the game out. I don't blame P5 teams for doing this as there is no upside to beating a G5 even on the road and they are putting themselves in position to take a loss that eliminates them from CFP contention any time they step on the field with a good team. A win in such a game does nothing for the resume.
Hello Nebraska,
This is my first post here as a UCF fan and will probably my only post on this board. I just wanted to bring to your attention that your team should be backing up Frost in a big way for an expansion of the playoffs, for your sake.
Here is why, in this years Colley Matrix (used in the BCS era), UCF is ranked #1 at the season end. We are using this to legitimize our claim on the national championship. However, taking a closer look, Wisconsin is #3:
http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
It's probably not hard to switch out Wisconsin with Nebraska in this scenario. Say that you had Wisconsin's season this year and your only loss was to Ohio State. Meanwhile, Clemson lost to Syracuse this season and Auburn and Georgia both lost to a 3-loss Auburn team. In this scenario, Nebraska does not qualify for the national championship playoffs and is left out. Sound fair?
Here is more about Wisconsin's ranking at #3 from the creator of the Matrix:
https://www.inverse.com/article/40128-ucf-alabama-college-football-national-champions
Take care and best of luck with Frost and company!
This is my first post here as a UCF fan and will probably my only post on this board. I just wanted to bring to your attention that your team should be backing up Frost in a big way for an expansion of the playoffs, for your sake.
Here is why, in this years Colley Matrix (used in the BCS era), UCF is ranked #1 at the season end. We are using this to legitimize our claim on the national championship. However, taking a closer look, Wisconsin is #3:
http://www.colleyrankings.com/currank.html
It's probably not hard to switch out Wisconsin with Nebraska in this scenario. Say that you had Wisconsin's season this year and your only loss was to Ohio State. Meanwhile, Clemson lost to Syracuse this season and Auburn and Georgia both lost to a 3-loss Auburn team. In this scenario, Nebraska does not qualify for the national championship playoffs and is left out. Sound fair?
Here is more about Wisconsin's ranking at #3 from the creator of the Matrix:
https://www.inverse.com/article/40128-ucf-alabama-college-football-national-champions
Take care and best of luck with Frost and company!
respectful post but you are off the rails a bit here - NU does not want to get rated ahead of a team that beat them in a conference title game. Wisconsin is not bitching about this nor should they.
Winning a conference title in a P5 conference is very hard and should be rewarded. the argument should have been whether Alabama deserved to be in over OSU. That gets even stickier now as Alabama was the National champion. The argument you guys are making for some mythical national title demeans your program and unfortunately detracts from the fine team and season you had.
What we are saying here is that it is up to you to change not up to P5 teams or the current structure to change - If you want to be recognized as a national power you need to show by going on the road against good P5 teams consistently year in year in year out. You do not get respect when your AD manages your schedule to only allow home and home series against these teams. You would make as much going on the road against say NU as you would a home game so it is not financial. It is your program trying to back door into respectability and it it does not work and has been tried before
So what you are saying is that we have to be win consistently on the road year after year to the best P5 teams when even the best P5 teams can't consistently beat the top P5 teams on the road. And we have to do this with 1/10 the money and recruits that are 2-3 stars. And we have to find top P5 teams that will play us period. What rarefied air you are priviledged to breath.
The rarified air that doesn't have to smell your funk on our board on a daily basis, (( ( Pigpen.) )) Why are you still here?
Congrats to UCF on their split undefeated and conference champion National championship.
Congrats to Bama on their defeated season, conference runner up, and split of the national championship.
Name a national Champion who did not win on the road against really good competition. The US is still free market at least for the moment P5 teams owe you nothing. it is your responsibility to overcome the obstacles not ours to eliminate them