Most I know that have had it, young or old, say it's worse than the worst flu they ever had. they also say it takes longer to get over it. This is people who have actually had it mind you.
Dr Fauci has been quoted
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You need to think before you post. Read to. What I said earlier was that the parts working on Covid need a slow pace. That is NOT the whole hospital. As I've commented before, there is no middle ground with you people.
More than that, to my family. More than 10, less than 30, not exactly sure. I know several who have died.
It would be better if the wind was blowing actually. Unlike yours that is actually a serious comment.
I'm not the one comparing going to a football game with going to the store.
I have said, repeatedly, that we can open up if people are not idiot ********.
But we have too many idiot ********....
When people are talking about death rates, assuming they are talking about the case fatality rate of all cases, and not just confirmed cases, then yes, the death rate for the flu is very much an estimate. They have much better data on the flu, so presumably the estimate is relatively good.
The one thing to keep in mind though is that because of prior infections and the vaccine, only 5-20% of the population will get the flu in a given year. With this being more infectious and a new strain, even an identical case fatality rate will result in a lot more deaths because a greater percentage of the population will get it.
Good point.
And I was thinking of them just testing the teams and support staff.
Not everyone that attends (but I like that, and it would make me more comfortable going to the game.)
You missed my original point. And I’m no where near as dedicated to this subject as you. Go find your argument elsewhere.
Well, based on what we know, if you're sons are healthy, they can very likely attend safely at MSU and make it safer for you. The only reason I wouldn't actually recommend that is just in case there are negative long term health impacts even for people that have mild symptoms. Not sure how likely that would be.
got it. wasn't sure how that was counted or estimated. I think that would be good to mentioned when talking mortality rates with these on how they are estimated especially when used in comparison.
If you are going to include this as part of your argument, then you absolutely no grounds to call ANYONE else an idiot!
I will give you credit for trying to make an argument that is related to real world and common sense.
However, the flaw in your argument is that it's a known fact that drinking and driving puts innocent lives at risk. Years of data and testing have proven that out. The same can not be said about CV. Data is beginning to show that many thousands of people have had CV and didn't even know it.
Again, if i get drunk and drive my car into you => death likely happens
If I get CV and eat at a restaurant table before you do or sit next to you, there is likely no significant impact on you. See the difference?
Who the hell do you associate with or are you just full of **** once again? You know "less than 30" people who have had the virus, yet you know "several" who have died. That would imply a death rate well into the double digits. You know "more than 10, less than 30" people who have had the virus. Yet total cases in MS is only 9,908 as of today. That's 0.3% of the population. So, if you know 1,000 people, you should know about 3 who have had the virus. Personally, I know 2, a husband & wife. His is about like a bad case of the flu, hers is very minor.
I think it has to happen. Campuses are re-opening. It's like the mayor from Jaws said, "People say barracuda (no baseball) people say who? What? You say shark (no football) and you've got a panic on your hands."
Same way my 76 year old dad with COPD and Emphysema does... I go and get his supplies, meds and food every two weeks like any responsible person would for their at risk parents.
Good. So you understand that if you go get the products off the shelves of a store where a large number of people are touching the same products and are milling around you, that is increasing the chances you are going to bring it to your dad?
The fewer people out and about stimulating our economy, decreases the chance that someone will give it to you or the products you bring to him.
They arent using gut instincts. They are using number trends and experience with other viruses. And 14 days is the time it normally takes the virus to run it's course. And by the way, Fauci isnt making statistical predictions. He is advising based on his 40 years of being involved in infectious diseases. There isnt a doctor with more experience or more respected over the last 40 years.
And we all get it. Fauci smirked and tried to hide a smile at some inane comment Trump made which was turned into a meme. It's no reason to act as if his reputation isnt for being trustworthy.
I live 600 miles away from them... In an essential job. And would have to travel through a state that would require me to be in a mandatory isolation for 14 days.
They wear masks and social distance.
But ******* idiots put them at risk.
The only good data we have for "Everyone" getting it is the Diamond Princess. The Case Fatality Rate (CFR) for that was 0.99%.
I doubt not opening back will kill more people than the virus. Not opening back up will be bad for the economy, which will be bad for people. But it's not going to kill more people than coronavirus.
They don’t have Amazon, CVS, Sams Club and other delivery services where your parents live? Do they not have a local church or agency that can assist them with grocery deliveries?
Obviously, an economy can’t kill people, but it can cause behavior that will. Imagine if you will a world where we’re in a huge depression and everyone is doing everything they can to survive. Imagine people having to kill and murder to survive for food, water, and supplies. Hell, people get crazy over sales on tvs at Wal-Mart on Black Friday!
Then imagine a bad economy where people commit suicide because they feel they have no way to survive due to bankruptcy or job losses. Imagine a sick person not able to afford the necessary healthcare they once had but are now jobless.
Say what you want, but I believe a bad economy can and will destroy more lives than quarantining for an unknown and unseeable future.
Then imagine a bad economy where people commit suicide because they feel they have no way to survive due to bankruptcy or job losses. Imagine a sick person not able to afford the necessary healthcare they once had but are now jobless.
Say what you want, but I believe a bad economy can and will destroy more lives than quarantining for an unknown and unseeable future.
You're assuming an economic collapse won't have serious negative health issues for the most vulnerable in this country. You are wrong.
I don’t disagree at all except your exception to the bad economy causing more loss of life.
I also think calling people “fragile” because they see rights being infringed upon ignorant and insulting. I’d say “fragile” belongs to those not willing to get back out there even with the right precautions.
All sorts of people make horrible choices and decisions in life. Take for instance the amount of people willingly attending Ole Miss. What’s wrong with those people??????
I also think calling people “fragile” because they see rights being infringed upon ignorant and insulting. I’d say “fragile” belongs to those not willing to get back out there even with the right precautions.
All sorts of people make horrible choices and decisions in life. Take for instance the amount of people willingly attending Ole Miss. What’s wrong with those people??????
Yes, but that's a little misleading.
They most likely were infected within their home by someone else that has been elsewhere, such as a family member who works in an essential service. The only other option is contracting it from things like food delivery, but the odds of that are exceedingly low.
They most likely were infected within their home by someone else that has been elsewhere, such as a family member who works in an essential service. The only other option is contracting it from things like food delivery, but the odds of that are exceedingly low.
We've got pretty good data from Iceland. We've got good'ish data from other places that allow some predictions. Certainly not ideal, but we have to work with the information we have.
The fatality rate for people who caught the disease
Was 0.99%, but only 25% of the people exposed to the disease actually caught it, and I don’t mean caught it but had no symptoms. 75% of the people in contact with the disease did not catch it. And the majority of the people on the ship likely fit into the high risk category.
Was 0.99%, but only 25% of the people exposed to the disease actually caught it, and I don’t mean caught it but had no symptoms. 75% of the people in contact with the disease did not catch it. And the majority of the people on the ship likely fit into the high risk category.
There have been many elderly people who have contracted the disease within the friendly confines of their existed living facility.
I know someone who has been in lockdown for two months. If they somehow get the disease, it wont be because they were hanging out at Wal Mart.
Because your recklessness my kill others. We have laws all over the place trying to stop stupid behavior like driving the left lane because it can kill others and at a much lower rate that 1%.
No, the standards recognized the need for adjustment based on local conditions. Mississippi has had about .3% of its population test positive. Let's say three times that many people actually have it or have had it, to account for limited testing and asymptomatic cases. That's around 1% of the population. You want Mississippi to stay locked down over that, but a state with ten times as many active infections per capita should be able to open as long as they used to have even more?
Sound public policy has to recognize reality. The reality is people aren't going to stay locked up for months on end. In hindsight, we made a mistake, granted an understandable one, locking up places with low infection rates. Now when infection rates do start to move up, people will probably hesitate to go back under lock down.
The CDC has a poster that shows what type of facial hair a person can have to properly wearing a N95 or N100. If your facial hair prevents a tight seal by the respirator, you lose the added protection and it’s basically like wearing a surgical mask or cloth mask. The graphic basically shows a yes/no for what shave works for a tight fighting respirator. Some on social media have taken that graphic and said the CDC is telling people how to shave for COVID19.
Just saw Fauci on the news - what I'd like to know is, where'd he get a haircut?? 
His hair looked really neat, yet he advises us to not open barbershops and salons.
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