Intro to the Hawkeyes

Dawg1976

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2012
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We should be the one's unhappy playing an inferior program. They're are not ranked.
 

HawkDawg

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Dec 3, 2018
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After reading their message boards, three things become clear:

First, they are not happy with having to play what they consider to be an inferior program.

Second, they are not happy with being in the Outback Bowl again.

Third, they are not looking forward to the cowbells, seeing them as either white trash or annoying. Which, of course, means I will be bringing two bells.

These observations may not represent all Iowa fans, in fact I am sure they don’t. This does represent the thoughts of their fans that post online, maybe they are just a little unhinged like a few people on every fan board.

(1) just like fans in most conferences, many Iowa fans (especially message boarders) tend to only know about the “signature programs” programs in other conferences, ie Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, etc. Having gotten to know and follow MSU for the last several years, I for one see both of these teams as tough, solid, and better than most give them credit for.

(2)I think this represents mainly those who have made the trip several times already to Tampa (and with poor results as of late); and secondly for those on message boards who insist that it’s either the playoffs or bust.

(3) while we will be fully decked out in Hawkeye gear, my wife has made it clear to me that she WILL be carrying her cowbell. ...... ring responsibly!

and finally (and unless this year is an aberration), for those of you that make the trip to tailgate, I think you will find the true Hawkeye base that follows our team to bowl games is a great group of folks who like to drink beer and have a good time. Sure, there will be some that take it too far like in any crowd, but from having lived in Brandon for 4 years, I did learn that Iowans and Mississippians are quite similar (rural, common sense, and no-nonsense types)
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
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Probably the best ever ice breaker from an opponent. Looking forward to discussions over the next month.

By the way, if you don't get snarky responses, it's because we don't like you. If you get snarky responses, you're doing something right.
 

TheStateUofMS

All-Conference
Dec 26, 2009
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My wife and I couldn’t be happier. Born and raised a Hawkeye, bleed black and gold. Back in 2013 moved to Jackson, MS for a job opportunity. Was surrounded by MSU fans and work. Marines and coworker there brought us to Starkvegas in 2014 for our first game (Dawgs beat aTm that day. Even bought my wife her own Cowbell as a Christmas gift that year. We have followed State ever since as our “2nd team”. A little over a year ago we relocated to Tampa. Wife fully made sure I was aware that while we will be wearing Hawkeye gear, she’s bringing her cowbell!

You need to keep doing what you're doing man. You became a fan in 2014? Now moved to Tampa? You may be a lucky charm and not even know it.

Someone wrap this dude in bubble wrap***
 

OrrDawg

Redshirt
Mar 3, 2008
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Please settle a long-running heated debate. How do you really pronounce Des Moines?
 

Chris Mannix

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Dec 29, 2016
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the less you'll like them.

I agree with this sentiment completely, after reading their message boards quite throughly I am beginning to like them less and less. The whole idea that we are just country schools that have a lot common is bull crap. They are trying to sell that idea, the truth is we are much more a kinned to their rival Iowa State. They seem as my daddy use to say “too big for their britches”. I have got to be honest when I say from reading their boards I will not be trying to make any friends among the Iowa people I mean it, also I hope we hang a hundred on them.

My wife is also from Guthrie Center Iowa, with her family growing up so close to Ames they are die hard Iowa state fans. All that part of the family has told me Hawkeye fans are ******** that are very a kin to Ole Miss fans, with a huge over inflated sense of self worth. Her uncle told me last night that we are pretty much the playing the Big Ten version of Ole Miss. Meaning that their fan base is self important and hard to get along with. I would say that is just a rival talking ****, but what I have read on their message boards seems to prove what was said about them. The idea that they are upset about playing an inferior program is a joke, they would never break even in terms of wins in the sec west, and most likely would never even get close.
 

rem101

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Jan 22, 2008
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Those lucky bastards have been getting to eat all the bloomin onions.
 
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There was a time when Iowa could beat, if not at least hang, with SEC teams in bowls.
Florida, LSU, SC... all succombed to Iowa's tough, physical, and disciplined football.

Well, it seems those days are done.
While the rest of the country adapts and changes their style of play to modern times,
Iowa does not.

Load the box on D and blitz like it's going out of style,
Hawks in trouble.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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Aug 25, 2014
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I've been really impressed with your tight ends on what film i've watch. it's a shame that one is not going to play, but I understand. feels kind of like i'm watching the Steelers. Your qb is a big ole boy like big ben. seems like he like the deep play action pass to the tight ends. running back looks pretty good. It's been a while since we've played a team that has ran a true I. can't remember how much lsu, bama, kentucky ran out the I this year. Only difference is the pass rushers we have will be a lot faster and stronger than what you guys may have faced. your defense looks big and physical up front. Purdue seemed to give you guys some trouble in the passing game. I'm intrigued to see how good your defense is and how well they can pressure fitz. He isn't great if pressured, but if he has time he has been a decent passer. how well do you guys defend the read option?
 

BrewHawk

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Dec 2, 2018
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I've been really impressed with your tight ends on what film i've watch. it's a shame that one is not going to play, but I understand. feels kind of like i'm watching the Steelers. Your qb is a big ole boy like big ben. seems like he like the deep play action pass to the tight ends. running back looks pretty good. It's been a while since we've played a team that has ran a true I. can't remember how much lsu, bama, kentucky ran out the I this year. Only difference is the pass rushers we have will be a lot faster and stronger than what you guys may have faced. your defense looks big and physical up front. Purdue seemed to give you guys some trouble in the passing game. I'm intrigued to see how good your defense is and how well they can pressure fitz. He isn't great if pressured, but if he has time he has been a decent passer. how well do you guys defend the read option?

I would try to watch some of the Penn St game for an idea vs our defensive approach to read option. Not many run it in the Big Ten, but we did defend it pretty well with the exception of one long run by McSorley.

We struggle more against balanced QBs who can both throw and run. I do think we match up better against Fitz over McSorley because of this. When we have to respect a good passing game, we can be susceptible to broken field mobile QBs, which is what Penn St. has.

If I were MSU, I would attack the perimeter. Check out the start of the Nebraska game for an example. Get us covering sideline to sideline and then look to go north/south with the read option mixed in.

I don't think we will get pushed around on defense. I do think you'll have to get guys in open space to have success.
 

Trojanbulldog19

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If I were MSU, I would attack the perimeter. Check out the start of the Nebraska game for an example. Get us covering sideline to sideline and then look to go north/south with the read option mixed in.

I don't think we will get pushed around on defense. I do think you'll have to get guys in open space to have success.

We only did this a few games against inferior defenses. We did come up with a unique game plan against auburn thought that was a sideline to sideline type offense with motions. That's one thing I do miss about Mullen style offense was the ability to use the field horizontally with screens and jet sweeps. We haven't done that very well this year. It's been read option and rpo with using the receivers further down field in the option. Usually it works ok if the receiver is in the flat. If it's in the middle of the field, it's usually a pick for the other team. you are correct, I think to be successful we will have to attack the perimeter which Fitz is pretty good at when on his game. Hill the younger running back is very good on the perimeter. Fitzgerald is deceptively fast for his size. I think our oline is a little better than Penn State's and Fitz is a better runner than McSorely, but not near the same level passing. I'm interested to see what Moorhead plans up. If it's something more like we tried against K State and other teams airing it out, or something like Auburn. Or something Like TAMU. I would think your defense is very comparable to TAMU from what i've understood. great on the interior, but the exterior and db's are the weakness. Could be a low scoring affair for both teams if your defense holds us to just passing. I would be very impressed if you can run the ball against our defense also. you might be able to get something on the play actions because we have left some guys wide open from stuff like that. But if you let sweat, gay, abram, thompson pin their ears back and rush the qb then they are very dangerous.
 

BrewHawk

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Dec 2, 2018
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We only did this a few games against inferior defenses. We did come up with a unique game plan against auburn thought that was a sideline to sideline type offense with motions. That's one thing I do miss about Mullen style offense was the ability to use the field horizontally with screens and jet sweeps. We haven't done that very well this year. It's been read option and rpo with using the receivers further down field in the option. Usually it works ok if the receiver is in the flat. If it's in the middle of the field, it's usually a pick for the other team. you are correct, I think to be successful we will have to attack the perimeter which Fitz is pretty good at when on his game. Hill the younger running back is very good on the perimeter. Fitzgerald is deceptively fast for his size. I think our oline is a little better than Penn State's and Fitz is a better runner than McSorely, but not near the same level passing. I'm interested to see what Moorhead plans up. If it's something more like we tried against K State and other teams airing it out, or something like Auburn. Or something Like TAMU. I would think your defense is very comparable to TAMU from what i've understood. great on the interior, but the exterior and db's are the weakness. Could be a low scoring affair for both teams if your defense holds us to just passing. I would be very impressed if you can run the ball against our defense also. you might be able to get something on the play actions because we have left some guys wide open from stuff like that. But if you let sweat, gay, abram, thompson pin their ears back and rush the qb then they are very dangerous.

Great thoughts!

I will say that if there isn't much of a passing threat our defense should do pretty well. I would imagine it's more that what GT presented us in the Orange Bowl. If you get too one-dimensional Iowa's defense will absolutely shut an offense down. I would like to think our defense is quite a bit better than A&M's. My wife is an Aggie, so I've followed them as close as any other team besides Iowa. Our DBs are no slouches. The SS was the Big Ten defensive back of the year. The LBs just aren't very mobile. The perimeter run support comes from the CBs and safeties, who are pretty solid in doing so.

We will need the pass to set up the run. Our RBs are decent, but aren't fast enough to get the edge vs an SEC defense. Zone blocking scheme, so many defenses have used backside gap shooting to shut things down. I wish we'd run more misdirection, but it just isn't part of our philosophy outside of the rare reverse. Iowa just wants to play better than you and beat you even when you know what's coming.
 

Msubulldogfan1

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Great thoughts!

I will say that if there isn't much of a passing threat our defense should do pretty well. I would imagine it's more that what GT presented us in the Orange Bowl. If you get too one-dimensional Iowa's defense will absolutely shut an offense down. I would like to think our defense is quite a bit better than A&M's. My wife is an Aggie, so I've followed them as close as any other team besides Iowa. Our DBs are no slouches. The SS was the Big Ten defensive back of the year. The LBs just aren't very mobile. The perimeter run support comes from the CBs and safeties, who are pretty solid in doing so.

We will need the pass to set up the run. Our RBs are decent, but aren't fast enough to get the edge vs an SEC defense. Zone blocking scheme, so many defenses have used backside gap shooting to shut things down. I wish we'd run more misdirection, but it just isn't part of our philosophy outside of the rare reverse. Iowa just wants to play better than you and beat you even when you know what's coming.

What’s the pulse for the fan base on Iowa’s HC? His resume’ is outstanding overall, maybe not so much here the past 5 years or so...and that the wins he does accumulate are against pretty mediocre teams, to put it mildly, for the most part.

I’ve always like Iowa bc I like the brand of football y’all play, and know exactly zero Hawkeye fans, so just curious.
 

Trojanbulldog19

All-American
Aug 25, 2014
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Great thoughts!

I will say that if there isn't much of a passing threat our defense should do pretty well. I would imagine it's more that what GT presented us in the Orange Bowl. If you get too one-dimensional Iowa's defense will absolutely shut an offense down. I would like to think our defense is quite a bit better than A&M's. My wife is an Aggie, so I've followed them as close as any other team besides Iowa. Our DBs are no slouches. The SS was the Big Ten defensive back of the year. The LBs just aren't very mobile. The perimeter run support comes from the CBs and safeties, who are pretty solid in doing so.

We will need the pass to set up the run. Our RBs are decent, but aren't fast enough to get the edge vs an SEC defense. Zone blocking scheme, so many defenses have used backside gap shooting to shut things down. I wish we'd run more misdirection, but it just isn't part of our philosophy outside of the rare reverse. Iowa just wants to play better than you and beat you even when you know what's coming.

it reminds me a lot of the lsu and bama and msu offenses of old. except your passing game is a lot better than what msu did. it's a line up and run the ball off tackle and run the play action. Some games this year I wish we would have done some of that with the talent we have a running back. I sometimes wish we would have run a GT style offense this season given our qb and running backs. Our offensive lineman are set to be more road graders than pass blockers. Do you guys blitz a lot? If the safeties and cb's have to play run support a lot because of the linebackers, I could see how the RPO could hurt your defense a lot with a qb that could throw accurately. The matchup is very interesting. Two good defenses. Two offense that have question marks against better defenses. if i'm honest i'm a little suspect of big 10 defense rankings after what Michigan had done to them by ohio state, but I don't think our offense is even close to as good as ohio state's. I think it's capable, but unlikely to fire at all cylinders like that with fitz throwing, our receivers, and our oline being not as good at pass blocking. If we play against good pass rush and db's capable of covering man to man, it makes makes our offense very one dimensional. If your defense has a better pass rush and db's than TAMU we could have a lot of trouble passing.
 
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Ferentz Fatigue is real!
Fan base is pretty split on the HC, and a big source of discord among fans (at least us internet losers).
Some of us think Iowa is a program that can take it up a notch, or at least make the B10 championship more often, with a new coach.
Of course the Ferentz apologists always counter with "If you think Iowa can be like Bama or Ohio State, then keep dreaming"
(as if any of us meant Bama or OSU level).
They also say Iowa is probably about as good as it can get, being in the middle of nowhere and all, so just be happy with 7-5.

I say we ain't gettin' any younger, lets see what we can do with some new blood.

I love KF, but every great coach reaches their time.
Maybe its time now.
 

BrewHawk

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Dec 2, 2018
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What’s the pulse for the fan base on Iowa’s HC? His resume’ is outstanding overall, maybe not so much here the past 5 years or so...and that the wins he does accumulate are against pretty mediocre teams, to put it mildly, for the most part.

I’ve always like Iowa bc I like the brand of football y’all play, and know exactly zero Hawkeye fans, so just curious.

Depends on who you talk to. I could go on a bit about this, but I'll try to keep it to the point. Bottom line is, we're Iowa. We're in a state with another P5 program (albeit a historically weak one) and Iowa HSs only produce about ten legit D-I players per year. Personally, I think he's a perfect match. We're in most games, are pretty much guaranteed 7-8 wins per year with the occasional top ten year mixed in. Runs a clean program and is a great guy.

His philosophy is players first, which I think actually leads to some losses from time to time, but you won't see him running schemes that compromise their development to win games. For example, I think there are programs out there who have no interest in getting their players to the NFL, they just want to "use" the players to run a scheme that will win games. Ferentz runs a true NFL system that occasionally doesn't have players that come anywhere close to being able to make the league, but they're coached as if they are expected to.

His scheme is set up to not need hugely talented skill players, although we would sure be a lot better if we could get them. Win the LOS and you have a good chance of winning the game.
 

patdog

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I was surprised to see that Ferentz has been there 20 years, as long as Hayden Fry was there. That's a LONG time. Looking at his record, there's a clear drop-off after 2009, and by now you have to think other than the occasional really good or bad year, he's a 7-6 to 8-5 coach. However, making a change is a huge risk. We had a similar situation with former basketball coach Rick Stansbury and let him go. We went through 7-8 truly horrible years before we're finally competitive again last year and this year.
 

Dawg_4_lifes

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Is it true that hogs outnumer Iowan-Americans 4 to 1?

What is the Iowa version of 17?

What is your favorite Dale’s recipe?

Why do you have a caucus?

Can your girls dunk?
 

BrewHawk

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Dec 2, 2018
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Do you have any photos of your Cheerleader's elbows?

Nah, too pointy.

Do have this one of the dance team...

 
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However, making a change is a huge risk.

What is probably a better wish, is keeping KF, but hoping he can adapt to modern football.
When opposing coaches literally say "you know exactly what you're getting when you play Iowa", that's not good!
 
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