4, but it will go up or down after these next weeks, and it will probably go up or down after every play.
Level of concern: Head Coach edition
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I'm a 7. Win these next two and the bowl and I'll still be a 7. Sign a good recruiting class? 7. Our number 1 gripe with Mullen was his play calling in big games. Moorhead's play calling has been 10x worse. I am and will be concerned until I see his offense work against an elite defense.
I’m at a 4, Joe has been stubborn with trying
To force his offense into place, that’s my biggest concern. I like him and hope he can be successful but he’s got some tough waters the next 3 months. How will he respond to dirty recruiting which will surely return at some point is a concern as well.
To force his offense into place, that’s my biggest concern. I like him and hope he can be successful but he’s got some tough waters the next 3 months. How will he respond to dirty recruiting which will surely return at some point is a concern as well.
7 for me.
I can’t help but think if we didn’t have an elite defense that we might would have lost to auburn and/or A&M.
Shoop has done an amazing job. We have some weak spots at corner but he’s called a defense that has helped mask that as much as possible. However, the offensive coaching has been ****. I understand the personnel is not in place for JM to run the offense how he wants but there was enough talent with the OL and running backs that a good coach would have made this an adequate offense. If moorehead can only have a good offense with players like Barkley and McSorely, then he will never be successful here. And I’m pretty concerned at this point that he’s a one trick pony.
I can’t help but think if we didn’t have an elite defense that we might would have lost to auburn and/or A&M.
Shoop has done an amazing job. We have some weak spots at corner but he’s called a defense that has helped mask that as much as possible. However, the offensive coaching has been ****. I understand the personnel is not in place for JM to run the offense how he wants but there was enough talent with the OL and running backs that a good coach would have made this an adequate offense. If moorehead can only have a good offense with players like Barkley and McSorely, then he will never be successful here. And I’m pretty concerned at this point that he’s a one trick pony.
Level of concern: Head Coach edition- 3 / Level of concern: Fanbase edition- 9
Thank goodness the worst y'all can do is run off a recruit or two.
Thank goodness the worst y'all can do is run off a recruit or two.
0. I fully expect next year his offense will be so dang good, we will look like Oklahoma, winning games 52-49 but also losing games 52-49.
Not trolling legitimately curious. What have you (and others who aren't very concerned) seen that gives you confidence in his offense?
Yes he does have stud RBs but an undisciplined, unreliable group of OL if they have to face stiff competition.
I feel sorry for anyone working a drive thru window for some of these chicken littles.
I'll bet most of them were ready to can Mullen his first season too.
I'll bet most of them were ready to can Mullen his first season too.
holy crap. so many low numbers 8 for me
8 for me.
He may be a great guy and good human being.
That doesn't mean he's a good SEC coach. I think he completely wasted this year and showed a failure to adjust.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this long-term, but if he can't adjust his offense to his personnel, or realize the strengths/weaknesses of his personnel I question his: awareness, ability and judgement.
I hope he proves me wrong, but he seems like a nice guy, without a clue as to how to coach in the SEC.
8 for me.
He may be a great guy and good human being.
That doesn't mean he's a good SEC coach. I think he completely wasted this year and showed a failure to adjust.
I'd be happy to be proven wrong on this long-term, but if he can't adjust his offense to his personnel, or realize the strengths/weaknesses of his personnel I question his: awareness, ability and judgement.
I hope he proves me wrong, but he seems like a nice guy, without a clue as to how to coach in the SEC.
7. Highly skeptical he builds what he wants and gets it to work in 3 years. In the meantime we under perform in offense
Being concerned and FAHR MOORHEAD is not the same thing.
Also Mullen taking that team to 5-7 is more impressive than getting this team to 8-4. He took a bad offense and made it function even though he didn't have "his" guys. Moorhead took a good offense and turned it into one of the very worst in the conference. There are red flags everywhere with Moorhead.
2 or 3 for me. I find it humorous that all we need to do is just run the football 15 to 20 times more every game. Our coach(es) are so 17ing stupid! They miss something so 17ing obvious! Never mind that we don’t know how many times Fitz had the option to give it to the RB and decided not to, and just overlook the fact that this offensive line has looked pretty average against good defenses at critical times. I think we should fire that sumbitch JoMo ASAP. We don’t need him for the last 2 games anyhow. We won’t even know his dumb *** isn’t coaching. We need to go ahead and be proactive and start finding a replacement now. We can go ahead and get the jump on all the other teams who will be looking for a coach!
Those of us leaning towards lower scores are obviously looking at his track record as an offensive coach. Yes, he failed to adapt his offense to this personnel, but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that it will work in time.
His offense is basically triple option except with a pass instead of a pitch. Not all QB's can run the triple option. Should he have adapted for the sake of this year? 100% Absolutely and that's a failing he has to carry, but if he gets people in that can run his scheme he won't have to adapt and it's not a problem going forward.
This year will always be a disappointment, but I'm still optimistic that it can work long term. With that said, if we lose one of these last two I think it shows problems beyond the offense and below the surface that are major red flags. So I'm waiting to see what happens.
I thought we were rating based on concern about Moorhead as a head coach overall, not based on offensive output. I’m not happy with the offense, but we’re in a position to potentially have 9 wins, seem to have a very good coaching staff in place, and a good recruiting class coming in. Sure, it’s disappointing the offense hasn’t produced better, but I’m not sure if that’s due to personnel he inherited or poor coaching or a combination of both.
He may not be a good fit here, but he’s been successful elsewhere and the team overall had not regressed from last season - in some places they’re worse but in some better - so I’m not yet concerned about his ability as a head coach.
This a joke? Our oline was one of the best in the country last season and returned almost everyone. If they're undisciplined, it's bc this staff can't coach em like last year's
1) humble belief that I, not being a football coach, don’t know more than he does, nor do I know more than the AD
2) my age and leadership experience didn’t let my expectations get out of line
3) because of number 2 I never bought into this being some kind of championship year under Mullen. He couldn’t do it with Dak...
4) because of number 2) I saw wholesale coaching change and a recovering, running qb for the risks that they were
5) we went toe to toe with Bama minus the refs. People
can whine about being tired of moral victories but with a first year coach, in Tuscaloosa, that’s impressive and indicates the team is improving as the season progresses. That’s a sign of good coaching
so I basically see all the down with Moorehead people as whining because he didn’t meet their unrealistic expectations. Now, instead of admitting they were wrong to expect that, they are digging in on their opinion like c34 and logic and reason are thrown to the wind.
it is a message board though so anything goes really.
Love the rationale! 1.67 * number of losses may be better.
I'm a 5--sitting on the fence and the last two games will determine which side I fall.
Yes, they were. It's not like we were some offense juggernaut last year against good defenses. The problem we had last year is the same as this year's, we have trouble throwing the ball downfield.
I think Moorhead is totally shocked how bad we are offensively. I really think he thought we were gonna be really good offensively this season. I think he worried
4.5
Echo your thoughts. He seems like a he puts some thoughts into his comments, but when you start talking about ring size, then say what does the fanbase know about winning, then tweet #ChampionshipStandard bull17...
I think he's a good coach, but he's really done himself a disservice with fans. It's tough to dig out of that.
Echo your thoughts. He seems like a he puts some thoughts into his comments, but when you start talking about ring size, then say what does the fanbase know about winning, then tweet #ChampionshipStandard bull17...
I think he's a good coach, but he's really done himself a disservice with fans. It's tough to dig out of that.
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