Reeves Comments on Next Year

bbnkat02

Heisman
Nov 14, 2017
47,700
71,064
113
100%.

In March, you need a few guys that you can give the ball to and say, "go get us a bucket".

This year, we only had 1 (Reeves).

Next year, we (IMO) seem to have 3 dudes coming in that all have that in them (Wagner, Dilly & Edwards), Reeves coming back could make 4, and go get another 1 or 2 for insurance purposes.

Guys like Livingston, Bradshaw, etc. play off of those guys and become finishers, and you suddenly have a team that is ACTUALLY built for March, unlike these last 3 teams.
Cason could but he had to run Point. If I find out Wheeler basically just quit on this team…
 

LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
39,490
62,179
113
100%.

In March, you need a few guys that you can give the ball to and say, "go get us a bucket".

This year, we only had 1 (Reeves).

Next year, we (IMO) seem to have 3 dudes coming in that all have that in them (Wagner, Dilly & Edwards), Reeves coming back could make 4, and go get another 1 or 2 for insurance purposes.

Guys like Livingston, Bradshaw, etc. play off of those guys and become finishers, and you suddenly have a team that is ACTUALLY built for March, unlike these last 3 teams.

Cal really needs to utilize his 9 through 6 guys more. If he does that, those guys will be happy to get some burn.. it will keep bodies fresh, and we will be much more ready to go come March.

Had he just done this from the start, maybe Adou can play point guard today or maybe CL is better suited on the wing. This simple change might be enough to get us a Final 4.

But this 6/7 man only rotation, ESPECIALLY when those guys aren't exactly elite to begin with, killed us.
 

HagginHall1999

Heisman
Oct 19, 2018
16,179
28,756
113
He needs Justin Edwards opposite of him, to draw defenses, and vice versa. The problem for Reeves was that he was our only real scoring threat. We need someone else for him.

But I love the prospect of him being back. Maybe more than anyone else? If I had to rank it (of realistic players returning):

1. Oscar.
2. Reeves.
3. Maybe Collins or Toppin?
4. Thiero

I'd like guys like CJ and Livingston and Wheeler to potentially come back, but I don't think we will miss them either. I might move Livingston up.

I'm hopeful we return:

Livingston, Reeves, Ugo, Thiero, CJ and Ware
 

G-PIP

All-American
Mar 14, 2014
5,286
5,964
0
Do any of you basketball bennies think it would be possible for Reeves to develop into a somewhat decent driver through contact over the summer? He's really bad at being able to score in the lane when bodied up. I guess part of it is he's not an explosive athlete. But he's 6'5" and 205 lbs. That should be enough to take 6'3" Guards to the hole a few times a game and this would likely force defenders to give him another step of space to shoot from the perimeter.
 
Apr 22, 2011
25,749
14,375
0
During the Kansas game Thursday, the announcer said Dick is a likely lottery pick.

Total side note but part of me wonders if Bill Self maybe hangs it up unexpectedly?

Just won a natty, had a severe heart issue that hospitalized him and rushed him into emergency surgery, major NCAA sanctions incoming (potentially).

Does Self look at himself after the health scare and call it a day?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bevcat and gojvc

saxonburgcat

All-Conference
Aug 22, 2012
4,437
4,151
0
Don't they all say that then enter the portal?

Need to read the thread. This was posted earlier:

The ncaa passed a rule in Dec that you can only transfer once with immediate eligibility going forward from that date . No waivers , etc . There’s only a few exceptions for hazing, sexual assault, etc …
 

BC_Wader

All-American
Aug 13, 2021
4,950
9,288
113
Total side note but part of me wonders if Bill Self maybe hangs it up unexpectedly?

Just won a natty, had a severe heart issue that hospitalized him and rushed him into emergency surgery, major NCAA sanctions incoming (potentially).

Does Self look at himself after the health scare and call it a day?
I said it the other day, but he didn't look good coming off the floor for the interview after they beat us. He looked horrible. Red faced, bloated and disheveled looking.
 

KyCPA2000

All-Conference
Nov 24, 2007
1,026
1,116
113
Definitely want him back. He won’t have as much pressure on him to score next year because we’ll have better options in the half court. It seems absurd to even acknowledge the possibility of not wanting Oscar back, but I would like to see Ugonna take a bigger role because I think we can get 2 really good years out of him, and Bradshaw has to play. But obviously would love to have Oscar back when it’s all said and done
Oscar needs to play the 4. Let the rim protectors play the 5.
 

K_TIME

Heisman
Jan 2, 2003
18,415
25,752
113
The bigger question is why do we even need to ask nearly the entire team this question every year. Why are we still in this dynamic?

- Reeves is a solid piece and has an extra year
- He doesn't project to be a NBA career....so what are we debating.
- Collins, Livingston, etc.. should be no brainters to come back.
- Why is it such a mystery what happened with Wheeler....now we have guys with no NBA future pulling roster ******** now.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
He goes 3-15 and a couple of those halfway/rimmed out threes go in, this conversation would’ve never happened and we wouldn’t even notice he went 3 for 15. You have to have Reeves back, streaky as hell or not.

But we know Cal will push him out. Kansas will get Grady Dick to come back and Cal won’t let Reeves return.
What would be Cal’s motivation for running off Reeves?
 
  • Like
Reactions: chattanoogawildcat

jbne222

Heisman
Dec 14, 2019
5,561
10,515
113
The bigger question is why do we even need to ask nearly the entire team this question every year. Why are we still in this dynamic?

- Reeves is a solid piece and has an extra year
- He doesn't project to be a NBA career....so what are we debating.
- Collins, Livingston, etc.. should be no brainters to come back.
- Why is it such a mystery what happened with Wheeler....now we have guys with no NBA future pulling roster ******** now.
I think some people are just ready to be done. There’s a lot of players with extra COVID years who don’t use them and move on to something else whether it’s basketball or not (mainly referencing Wheeler and Frederick).

Livingston should come back. I think Collins will 100% be back if Oscar doesn’t return.
 

gojvc

All-American
Feb 5, 2005
28,744
7,273
0
Total side note but part of me wonders if Bill Self maybe hangs it up unexpectedly?

Just won a natty, had a severe heart issue that hospitalized him and rushed him into emergency surgery, major NCAA sanctions incoming (potentially).

Does Self look at himself after the health scare and call it a day?
Wondered that myself. Pure speculation but I could see it.
 

TriCountyCAT

All-American
Dec 5, 2010
4,366
6,320
43
Well, once again we have no real shooters on next years team so he might be an important piece.
 

TriCountyCAT

All-American
Dec 5, 2010
4,366
6,320
43
Ugonna is going to be a force next season if he doesn’t transfer. Showed potential this year, but Cal wouldn’t play him.
He better get on that Dick Gregory diet if that’s gonna happen. He better say. “ I’ve got a weight problem, I can’t weight to eat.”
 
Apr 22, 2011
25,749
14,375
0
Well, once again we have no real shooters on next years team so he might be an important piece.

Yep.

Need Reeves to return, and then gotta go get 2 more shooters in the portal.

Have 3 serious shooters (Reeves + 2 transfers), and then guys like Wagner, Dilly, Livingston, Edwards and Bradshaw who are all at least capable of making them, and that is a potent roster.

Not to mention Reed, and then Ugonna and Bradshaw protecting the rim.
 

Kats meow

All-Conference
Nov 16, 2021
919
1,135
53
He goes 3-15 and a couple of those halfway/rimmed out threes go in, this conversation would’ve never happened
Just for complete transparency:
He was 1-15, not 3-15, and the 1 came with 6 seconds left and the game over.
 

TriCountyCAT

All-American
Dec 5, 2010
4,366
6,320
43
Yep.

Need Reeves to return, and then gotta go get 2 more shooters in the portal.

Have 3 serious shooters (Reeves + 2 transfers), and then guys like Wagner, Dilly, Livingston, Edwards and Bradshaw who are all at least capable of making them, and that is a potent roster.

Not to mention Reed, and then Ugonna and Bradshaw protecting the rim.
But still have to worry about Cal’s floppy action.
 

Rupp'sRunt

Heisman
Apr 19, 2008
14,675
20,094
0
Pretty clear that the coaching staff and Oscar weren’t on the same page this year. Whether or not that would translate into him being unwelcome to return is debatable.

Lot of big egos at play, and the results haven’t been anything to write home about. If you’re Cal, do you deal with that for another year? Especially if it might be your LAST year?

I think Reeves is a different story. That team next year can use a shooter. We already know that.

Don’t quite know what to make of Reeves performance today. Wouldn’t want to depend on him as heavily as we did this year. But I would personally like him on the roster. There’s something I like about him, even though today was an all-time trainwreck.
If you can’t work with the NPOY and a walking 20&15 that’s on the coaching. I mean Oscar single handedly bailed out the ****** offense of cal by grabbing rebounds over and over and getting easy buckets. It’s not Oscar’s fault he’s being played the way he is. Now Oscar’s pick and roll defense is something left to be desired. But I don’t have faith that Bradshaw Is the next AD bc the class is weak this incoming year and Cal simply hasn’t landed that type of player since bam/fox/monk. Telling Oscar he isn’t wanted/needed back would be idiotic. If you’re going to play 2 bigs at once he’s pretty much a perfect 4 for Cals “system”. He also had to hold up Cals worst PG wheeler for 2 seasons.

I’d definitely take reeves back he may get ice cold but he can get red hot. A poor man’s Malik monk
 
Last edited:

Doc4UK!

All-Conference
Aug 14, 2003
2,842
1,877
113
Have not heard anything about the rims but they sure looked very tight and unforgiving. Did this have anything to do with the low scoring games and poor shooting games in Greensboro?
 

Catluv

All-Conference
Dec 18, 2018
3,546
4,692
0
I think Collins and Ware will transfer and find their level where they’ll start , or play big minutes . They are both easily replaced via portal or high school if you needed to
I met Ware seems like a level headed guy. I think he loves UK. He may be happy being on the team and backing up players. I will kinda be shocked if he leaves. Collins I just don’t know might want to get closer to home.
 

Aike

Heisman
Mar 17, 2002
75,452
46,418
90
If you can’t work with the NPOY and a walking 20&15 that’s on the coaching. I mean Oscar single handedly bailed out the ****** offense of cal by grabbing rebounds over and over and getting easy buckets. It’s not Oscar’s fault he’s being played the way he is. Now Oscar’s pick and roll defense is something left to be desired. But I don’t have faith that Bradshaw Is the next AD bc the class is weak this incoming year and Cal simply hasn’t landed that type of player since bam/fox/monk. Telling Oscar he isn’t wanted/needed back would be idiotic. If you’re going to play 2 bigs at once he’s pretty much a perfect 4 for Cals “system”. He also had to hold up Cals worst PG wheeler for 2 seasons.

I’d definitely take reeves back he may get ice cold but he can get red hot. A poor man’s Malik monk
Lot to dissect here. Not to defend Cal, but he actually builds his offense around grabbing offensive rebounds. It isn’t a bailout. It’s the design.

Is it the coaching or the player? Chicken and egg I guess. Probably some blame to go around but truth is we haven’t been highly successful as a team with Oscar as the focus.

I think there’s a way to use Oscar that would be more effective. I also don’t think Oscar takes all that well to coaching. I think he has his own ideas about what success looks like, and that those things don’t necessarily mesh with the best team concept.

I wouldn’t play two bigs at once. Definitely not with Oscar at the 4. I get what you’re saying about Cal’s “system.” Don’t think that makes it the right decision.

Bottom line, this team had a lot of turmoil. Oscar was clearly part of that. We also haven’t been a very good team while revolving around Oscar.

Have things been ironed out enough that they can make it work next year? I have my doubts, but we’ll see. I expect Cal to do whatever he can to have his “perfect” group next year with as few distractions as possible. Then I think he exits. We’ll see.