Cal is not returning next year.
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I get that, but look where he coached ... he started at Valpo and then went to a program where players had just murdered a teammate and the coach helped cover it up ... but eventually won a title.
I hate when the early portion of a coach's career is used against them .... in every sport. Indianapolis sports radio was talking about Jim Harbaugh and the Colts yesterday, and they shared a story about the time the Pacers hired I. Thomas instead of Bird's up and coming assistant Rick Carlisle. Carlisle was basically told, "Don't take the job yet, because it's a complete rebuild, and your record will be awful for 3 years and haunt you for the rest of your career." That is essentially what you're doing with Scott Drew.
Earlier in the thread I ask some team related questions, do you have any insight on those? I would think Cal info doesn't exist in a vacuum
No, unfortunately when pointing out a level headed approach to things on Cal you and a few other Harvey Updike types go crazy. Sadly every fan base has them. You are part of the few here that are in this club.
I missed that- sorry. No, I honestly just know what I was told about Cal leaving.
Could not care less what a fan of another team thinks about this situation. Especially one that seems to always need to have the last word. It’s odd that you inserted yourself into this thread. Carry on- you can have the last word with me for sure.
If all this is true and not just a manager or lower staff overhearing something and passing it to a friend….then I pray that “at least 1” isn’t bc Mitch has taken the easy route and hired Antigua or bruiser on some handshake deal
Don't know you, Ortho, but like many (myself included) over the 20+ years I've been here, we provide the information we hear, get attacked for it, told we are liars, and the cycle never stops. When the info turns out to be true, you get told (a) you were just lucky it panned out, or (b) nothing. If something changes, it's silly validation that you were lying all along. With recruiting, specifically, everyone knows by now that kids change their minds, money gets involved, and commitments flip ON THE DAY THEY ANNOUNCE - yet you're a liar who was just trying to look cool on a message board for sharing what was true at the time. There are many people here who simply don't realize that some members of this message board are actually very connected to people with legit sources, info, roles on UK basketball, football, athletics in general, and things beyond UK.
Have an opinion and offered it. No more or no less than you.
Message board life.....it's serious business. to you.Ortho has no reason to make this up. He’s a good dude. His source might end up being wrong, but he’s a credible poster. You’re just scoffing because his prediction contradicts yours.
Bass has a very rudimentary and brusque writing style. He’s not smart enough to disguise it that well. He’d be easy to spot. His only sock is Ed323232.
This is how this works every time legitimate or not.
Person 1 gets info from person 2
Person 2 tells person 1 to keep it anonymous
Person 1 says no problem
Person 1 shares info on public board
Person 1 begins getting credibility questioned so he starts givng more and more hints
By the end Person 1 has shared enough info trying to save credibility to elimiated 90% of the anonymity of Person 2.
Just makes no sense why Persons 2 ever woud agree to let Persons 1 share anything. I'm not doubting you or not saying it didnt happen in this case, just saying in general WHY would a source EVER allow you to share anything even anonymously. Ive had a few small nuggests of my own through the years but didnt share just beause of this phenomonon.
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It is Baylor. Don't act like they were battling for Final Four year in and year out prior to Drew's arrival. They were more known for murdering teammates than Final Fours prior to Drews tenure.
You have no idea what KY basketball is like. This isn't Iowa. Ignorance is bliss.Have an opinion and offered it. No more or no less than you.
I believe Robic’s contract isn’t up till June is why he’s listed , but I don’t believe he’s working
Whether or not he has a strong track record of breaking news is irrelevant. the only thing that matters is if he’s telling the truth. The New York Times has a strong track record of breaking news, and I wouldn’t line a birdcage with that lousy, lying rag.
I agree. As I said, I like Drew. He took on a nightmare and turned it into a legit program.
But, still, in 19 seasons he has 1 conference title, 3 second places and has only been past the first weekend of the NCAA tourney 5 times.
The ideal scenario would be for him to step down now and let the assistants take over. Then maybe we could salvage the rest of the season. The players don’t respond to him anymore and you saw how they played in the Bahamas when he wasn’t coaching. His time here has long since passed.
But at a place like Baylor, that is actually above average for them...Other than a brief period back in the 60s or so, they have never had the success that Drew has brought to them. You can't just look at results. You have to look at results comparative to the location. Those results at UK won't fly. Those results at Baylor exceed expectations and gives him a 20 year tenure and the ability to stay as long as he wants. You can't assume that his results won't be better at UK when he has the resources UK has such as name recognition, fanbase, etc behind him. This isn't a Billy G type hire. This would be a hire of someone who has won a title and exceeded expectations at each place he has coached at. There is no reason to believe he wouldn't do the same if he coached here as well.
You kinda proved his point about needing the last word by responding again and being snarky (“to you”). Maybe it’s more serious to you than you realize…or you’re just an ***…Have an opinion and offered it. No more or no less than you.
Either way you’re a guest on this board. You haven’t been posting here for a 5-10+ years to have a feel on posters track records…or to see posters who use to be very pro-Cal change and accept reality. You also can’t fully understand the situation being a fan of a school with good but not great programs historically. Expectations and not accepting mediocrity are different when you are a historical top 3 team (same for any sport/league) and the expectations are to continue to compete at the top 5 level and maintain that. Not just being a top 25 program and s16s which defines success at non blue blood programs. Even it pro sports the Lakers, Celtics, RedSox, Yankees etc have different standards of success that’s acceptable than the Clippers and A’s. When expectations lower you typically (overtime) become just like every other team that isn’t the headliner of the sport. Kentucky football is content/happy w Stoops bc we need to sustain this level that we've historically rarely been to create new expectations….Georgia, Ohio State, Alabama, Texas, would not be content with the same results.
OP could end up being wrong but he doesn’t have a history of baiting ppl or engaging so he likely has heard scuttlebutt; i personally would have delivered it as a maybe instead of already fact or just kept it to myself but to each their own.
I do always wonder why do people feel it neccessary to bring this type of information to a bunch of strangers on this board. Why should we be so privileged?
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That's the greatest concern of the whole situation. How much say does Mitch have in the next UK basketball coach that is hired? He absolutely f'd up the last one by hiring BCG. He gets no credit for hiring Calipari as it was against his will. If it is Mitch's hire, I would expect Tommy Lloyd or some up-and-coming name...mainly because he would think he could keep that coach under his thumb. He won't want an ego like Nate Oats or Musselman or even a Sean Miller. These guys would immediately become bigger than the AD.
What? Man you are something else there Mike-McD (yes, I know you have a few accounts).
I later thanked the guy for his input. His answers convinced me he wasn't trolling or one of those guys. I don't care if I'm wrong about Cal's method or timing of departure. You really think you know people here, don't you. Some kind of clairvoyant savant, it seems.
But the title and Final Four are recent, which implies he has figured it out.
Well, not actually true Harvey Jr. You think you’re a veteran know it all regarding Kentucky sports. You may know about Iowa sports but you’re irrelevant to THIS board. You’re like a phony politician shaking hands and kissing babies. When are you gonna ‘get it’ that no one here cares about your thoughts on a topic you know absolutely nothing about ?
I did. I could see where Chin wouldn't necessarily leave with Calipari. I could also see where he would actively try to keep recruits close to himself.
In this thread has there been clarification that Cal has another job waiting or is he just giving up? (Didn't feel like filtering through 11 pages)
Then what's the point of coming here on a daily basis, as most do? Just to say hi?
Really has nothing to do with who the source is. The OP’s original post and those after it are just too vague. Like I said, he may very well leave, I have no idea. There’s just not enough here
You're gonna be fine....there are people that can help you through this difficult time
that is exactly what I think
he will want to be here for the incoming class & then leave
Same number of Titles as your beloved Calipari too.
...at Baylor.
Whether his info comes to fruition or not, WTH do you want him to say. Give the time and date that CCC leaves Lex???
The high profile players coming in, almost like never before, kind of makes me want Cal back one more year. Almost have the feeling that maybe even a coach like that would have a hard time totally messing up a team that highly touted.
Me too , especially if the incoming coach had a prior relationship with him .
Drew was never able to beat Duke and Baylor was always put in that matchup. Does play some zone though which should please some on here.
Don’t won’t Drew.
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