Need re-calculation of the 16 class's rank with Simmons removed. ...

TBone.sixpack

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Is it automatic he is done? I know that it is in the DNA of State fan... To imagine the worst possible outcome. But is it clear cut case that he won't somehow still make it to campus?
 

Shmuley

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Um no? Just curious how deep into the 30s the class rank plummets without his 5 star thug ***.
 

ronpolk

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Is it automatic he is done? I know that it is in the DNA of State fan... To imagine the worst possible outcome. But is it clear cut case that he won't somehow still make it to campus?

Why would we keep him? I sure as hell hope we drop his ***. Some things are more important and a damn football game.
 

TBone.sixpack

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Well that's like you're opinion man.
One that will have zero influence on who makes the big calls.

So we wait and see.
 

msstate7

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Why would we keep him? I sure as hell hope we drop his ***. Some things are more important and a damn football game.

Would you have booted dak from the team had he gotten his dui pre-senior year? Dui carries a larger fine than simple assault.

For the record, I'm not condoning Simmons' actions... I think it's terrible what he did. Just saying that things we overlook like dui are much more dangerous, but we let them slide bc they don't look as bad
 

ronpolk

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Would you have booted dak from the team had he gotten his dui pre-senior year? Dui carries a larger fine than simple assault.

For the record, I'm not condoning Simmons' actions... I think it's terrible what he did. Just saying that things we overlook like dui are much more dangerous, but we let them slide bc they don't look as bad

Seriously man try and be somewhat realistic. People don't even go to jail for a first offense dui... People go to jail for assault, especially a man against a women. I just don't care to have someone who can't keep his emotions check anymore than that. If it was my daughter he was punching like that he'd be in jail.
 

klong-dog

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I thought "the punches" looked more like quick jabs. Almost looked like it was a fake wrestling match going on.
 

TBone.sixpack

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If it were your son would you want his entire future altered by a very poor decision? Or hope he was surrounded by father figures in a better environment to be able to learn from these mistakes.

And yes his actions were really bad. I'm just playing Devils Advocate here.
 

RiverCityDawg

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If it were your son would you want his entire future altered by a very poor decision? Or hope he was surrounded by father figures in a better environment to be able to learn from these mistakes.

And yes his actions were really bad. I'm just playing Devils Advocate here.

There are certainly a couple sides and I can see both of them. This is one side that I agree with. On the otherhand if you cut him loose does it send the right strong message to the current players that there is zero tolerance for hitting a woman? I'm just glad I'm not Mullen/Stricklin/Keenum having to make a decision on this. It's lose-lose.
 

pmack65

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What he did was down right stupid, to assault a female for making negative comments about his late nephews is truly immature and could have legal ramifications. But Everyone knows dam well that if we let him go rev bucky is going to jump in and save him.
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Remember De'Andre Johnson from FSU? Same deal. In football today domestic violence is a big deal as it should be. He screwed up his chance at MSU. Let him go JUCO and get another chance. I hope he makes it to the NFL and never has any more incidents like this but there has to be more harsh consequences for this type of behavior. Maybe then people will realize that you cannot be violent and get away with it just because you are a good athlete.
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Also for those worried about him signing with a conference team I believe that if we cut him loose that no other SEC team is allowed to sign him.
 

Tomas Smid

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In today's environment, there is not another team in the SEC that would go anywhere near Simmons. To even consider keeping him will bring Mullenz under tremendous negative scrutiny. It is what it is.
 

8dog

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Is this considered domestic violence? Im not sure the new rule captures this

Someone will give him a second chance. Might as well be us. Unfortunately thats the college football world we live in now
 

Maroonthirteen

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In today's environment, there is not another team in the SEC that would go anywhere near Simmons. To even consider keeping him will bring Mullenz under tremendous negative scrutiny. It is what it is.

I think you're dead wrong. If we cut him and nothing more comes of this, he will be in Oxford.

Regardless, Mullen is going to watch out for Mullen. You are right about that. Because all this Bull has to be weighing on him. He has to be kicking himself for passing on "lateral" jobs last year and will probably take anything next off season.
 
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Will James

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Why would we keep him? I sure as hell hope we drop his ***. Some things are more important and a damn football game.

This is why we keep getting our *** kicked. Look at how great a person you are** Bet you'll feel real good when he's chasing Fitzgerald all over the backfield.
 

8dog

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Amen. Zero reward for taking a moral high ground in college football. No one will remember one way or the other after a few days.
 

Shamoan

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We can rehabilitate him...I mean, he isn't even officially on a roster right? If he is, he gone, if not, it's his high schools problem. There is a window for us to take him if we think he is worth the trouble
 

MaroonNation

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Alabama, Auburn and LSU all won national championships with kids that did equal to or worse than Simmons. If we don't keep him another SEC school( and we all k kW which one) will pick him up.
 

Original48

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Amen. Zero reward for taking a moral high ground in college football. No one will remember one way or the other after a few days.
Amen. Amen. And Amen. I swear the MSU fan base is THE ONLY fan base in the country who isn't ALL IN.
 

msugolf

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Why would we keep him? I sure as hell hope we drop his ***. Some things are more important and a damn football game.

Don't take this personal but I hated you when you were our head coach and I still hate you today you gay, no computer, leisure suit wearing ***.
 

QuaoarsKing

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Suspend him for the 2016 season (still practicing) and make him volunteer at a battered women's shelter every Saturday instead of going to games. If he totally stays out of trouble, reinstate him in August 2017. Also enroll him in anger management and an Intro to Womens Studies course to get a little perspective. He's young enough to truly change if he wants to.

And that's assuming no charges are filed. If they are, he'll have to go.
 

amcdan2000

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I would certainly dig and find out if anything like this has happened. I wouldn't wont anyone talking bad about my passed relatives and would snap too especially if it was recent. I would dig deeper. Its one thing for a coach and relatives too praise him as a good kid. Is he really a student (I know that doesn't matter anymore too some), has a history of bullying or is a real thug. Everyone mature knows what is on the line for him and we know and have seen athletes sail through high school no matter what they do. They should make sure this is a one time incident so nothing like this happens at State. If he was in the NFL he would be out of a job.
 

was21

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No need to...he ain't going anywhere else and will be on the roster
 

Dawg1976

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Agree. Cut him loose. We are no better than OM if we keep him. This sight makes fun of OM all the time for 'rehabbing' thugs. We will be the same if he stays.
 

Will James

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Agree. Cut him loose. We are no better than OM if we keep him. This sight makes fun of OM all the time for 'rehabbing' thugs. We will be the same if he stays.

Ole Miss will be far better off if we cut him loose. ******* Mississippi State fans I swear this is why we are the joke of the league. I bet you yell at people to sit down during the game too. Damn we are our own worst enemy.
 
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Suspend him for the 2016 season (still practicing) and make him volunteer at a battered women's shelter every Saturday instead of going to games. If he totally stays out of trouble, reinstate him in August 2017. Also enroll him in anger management and an Intro to Womens Studies course to get a little perspective. He's young enough to truly change if he wants to.

And that's assuming no charges are filed. If they are, he'll have to go.

Agreed.*
 

ronpolk

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This is why we keep getting our *** kicked. Look at how great a person you are** Bet you'll feel real good when he's chasing Fitzgerald all over the backfield.

I'll feel exactly the same about him regardless of where he plays. He's a thug that id prefer to have nothing to do with my university. Just my opinion and I realize that it's shared by everyone and that is perfectly fine. I just wonder how people would feel if this was your daughter or wife he beat the hell out of. I don't know if Mullen is allowing him on the team or not but I do know this, if he had beaten the hell out of Mullen's daughter he sure wouldn't be on the team. So, why is it different for some girl no one knows?
 

patdog

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Agreed. There are way too many thugs playing college and pro sports. I'd just as soon not have them at my school. This is one more example of why I think the NCAA needs to take the role of the NFL in handing out suspensions for off-field incidents. The coach has a vested interest in not suspending a player for something like this (see Les Miles and Hugh Freeze, among others).
 

notoriousD_O_G

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Exactly and what he did was way worse and he's a grown man not a high schooler. Our fans are ******* embarrassing. Do-good knee jerk liberals

If he went anywhere but MSU yall would be calling for his head. Pull your head out of your *** and realize the kid 17ed up and bringing him in without a VERY severe punishment is a potential PR nightmare for the University.
 
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