So AJ has cancelled his midweek visit to campus tomorrow.

TheStateUofMS

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Rosebowl said he cancelled his midweek visit but may go see the staff Thurs

Honestly, he's a big time WR, but if we have to miss some where this is the position we can afford it most and we still have quality receivers committed and future commits. Ronnie Turner would commit if he gets the offer this weekend. He's a JUCO 3star on scout, but his film looked really good to me. I think he had 10 TDs and over 700yds in just 7 games this past season.
We're still looking to add some elite talent where we need it most: in the trenches.

Lashley and Kobe Jones. 50/50 on Simmons. As long as FSU doesn't offer, and it looks like they aren't, Reese the 4 star OT is down to us an Syracuse. We can still close strong and likely to close strong and with some great to elite prospects in positions that have kept us from beating Bama.

We haven't been losing to Bama bc of WR talent. It's been OL talent.
 
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rugbdawg

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Wow. Most depressing post ever.

Seriously. Touting a 3 star Juco WR? A tackle down to us and Syracuse?

Losing AJ would REALLY be a legitimate sky is falling moment for Mullen's program. It's symbolic for the state of the program and damn near guarantees his ceiling is reached.

Dear Lord. You have really bought into this whole "Mullen can coach em up" thing. Did you watch the last two Egg Bowl? We need talent/depth EVERYWHERE. Bama has it. Ole Miss is building it.
 
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I don't believe anything until the kid shows up for classes at the University. Then and only then is a kid "going to ______ University".

Chris Jones spent every free moment in Oxfart partying, and then signed with us. Commit gets an Auburn tattoo then signs with Alabama. Commit signs with one University THEN the Commit's Mama forges his signature on a LOI to another University.
 

ronpolk

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Seriously. Touting a 3 star Juco WR? A tackle down to us and Syracuse?

Losing AJ would REALLY be a legitimate sky is falling moment for Mullen's program. It's symbolic for the state of the program and damn near guarantees his ceiling is reached.

Dear Lord. You have really bought into this whole "Mullen can coach em up" thing. Did you watch the last two Egg Bowl? We need talent/depth EVERYWHERE. Bama has it. Ole Miss is building it.

Would it suck that Mullen couldn't secure a highly sought after hometown kid? Yes sure it would. But legitimate sky is falling? Come on man. There is never a legitimate sky is falling over a recruit. I've seen too many Damien Robinson and templeton Hardy's vs McKinney and bear to get worked up about a recruit.
 

horshack.sixpack

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Would it suck that Mullen couldn't secure a highly sought after hometown kid? Yes sure it would. But legitimate sky is falling? Come on man. There is never a legitimate sky is falling over a recruit. I've seen too many Damien Robinson and templeton Hardy's vs McKinney and bear to get worked up about a recruit.

Agree. it would suck not to get him because he is good, but anyone with a memory who's being honest knows those normal feelings of wanting to get away and be independent at that age. says absolutely nothing about Mullen, his recruiting, or MSU.

You spend the first half of your life trying to get away from home and the second half trying to get back." -Lewis Grizzard
 

KurtRambis4

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Not to mention

we are losing him to AL, allegedly. It's not like we are losing him to Arkansas or Tennessee.

It certainly would suck to lose him, though. He appears to have a huge upside and potential.
 

121Josey

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Would it suck that Mullen couldn't secure a highly sought after hometown kid? Yes sure it would. But legitimate sky is falling? Come on man.

Sky is falling, no. Self-fulfilling prophecy, yes. Freddie Milons 2.0
 

coach66

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Not a lot of optimism out there for the good guys. We are getting our ***

handed to us. We better wake up and play the game and start tweeting these recruits and acting like a bunch of rock crazed teenage girls from the 60's over recruiting or we are going back to the MSU 60's.
 

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Where's that coming from?

It's coming from Rosie during an interview with Bo Bounds. He stated that AJ had cancelled his midweek visit to campus and that the tea leaves were pointing to Alabama. Ironically, it is being said that AJ and his Dad are upset with a member of the media concerning comments about AJ's recruitment. Look no further . . . . . . .
 

aTotal360

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Until something changes, we are going to continue to be a last or next to last in our division. Lot's of people will beat their chest and say "I'll take it" because we can be the worst team in our division and still win 8 games.
 

Shmuley

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When you suck at it this bad, I don't know how you fix it without wholesale changes.
 

civildawg88

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Until something changes, we are going to continue to be a last or next to last in our division. Lot's of people will beat their chest and say "I'll take it" because we can be the worst team in our division and still win 8 games.

Totally agree with this. We will beat Kentucky and whatever SEC team is a dumpster fire that year and our 4 OOC cupcakes and people will say but we still made a bowl game!1!!11!
 

msstate7

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When you suck at it this bad, I don't know how you fix it without wholesale changes.

Like adding usc's recruiting cood and a very good recruiter from Louisville? I haven't given up on '16 YET, but our new staff will make a difference next year.
 

KurtRambis4

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Which raises

the question, if we are continuously having "bad" recruiting class, but winning 9-10 games a year, doesn't that mean we are doing a good job at coaching?
 

aTotal360

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We are having "bad" recruiting classes compared to everyone else in our division minus ARK.
 

coach66

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The Bears approach is working, it's not all about the bags. They are marketing

the hell out of a place that is not much different than MSU and Starkville in reality but they have changed the reality by constantly praising what they have and dogging the hell out of what we have. We are losing the PR war.

We need to change our approach some and keep the great player development foundation we have in place.
 

GhostOfJackie

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It's coming from Rosie during an interview with Bo Bounds. He stated that AJ had cancelled his midweek visit to campus and that the tea leaves were pointing to Alabama. Ironically, it is being said that AJ and his Dad are upset with a member of the media concerning comments about AJ's recruitment. Look no further . . . . . . .

Really? He's a 5 star talent from Starkville that was all but committed to the hometown SEC school, only to seriously flirt with another SEC school 70 miles down the road. What did they expect from the media?

I don't know what was said or what bloodsucking member of the media they are talking about, but that should never be a reason choose (or not choose) a school.

It's not going to be the end of MSU football as we know it, but Mullen really f'n sucks as recruiting big time talent. Diamonds in the rough are alot harder to find than diamonds in the middle of the fairway.
 

SignalToNoise

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This staff might have a better chance of discovering the secrets to cold fusion before discovering the secrets of recruiting.
 

Hanmudog

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WTF people? Get a grip.

AJ is likely going to be a good player but I cannot fault a kid for going to the national champs and getting out of his hometown.

And for the love of all that is holy stop comparing our recruiting to Ole Miss. They will be reaping what they sowed for their "recruiting" soon enough and everyone will ask if it was worth it.
 

TBone.sixpack

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As a fanbase they are extremely United as well. Where State fans are all too willing to eat their own first sign of controversy or rumor.

You are right. They own our *** in that regard and on holding the narrative regardless the situation. It's cult-like but impressive nonetheless.
 

ronpolk

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WTF people? Get a grip.

AJ is likely going to be a good player but I cannot fault a kid for going to the national champs and getting out of his hometown.

And for the love of all that is holy stop comparing our recruiting to Ole Miss. They will be reaping what they sowed for their "recruiting" soon enough and everyone will ask if it was worth it.

I agree with most of what you're saying but we should be able to get Brown. I'm not calling this a sky is falling like rugb but this is a guy we should get.

With all that said, I don't really follow recruiting so it's easy for me to not get caught up on the stars. In my opinion, Mullen has earned some trust in relation to picking players. He's proven to be a good evaluator.
 

aTotal360

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Bingo. Hugh and his staff are hustling. There isn't a single thing they won't do to get a recruit. Hugh will grovel if he needs to grovel. If he needs to buy a baby a new crib and diapers, he does it. Meanwhile our staff thinks most of that stuff is below them.
 

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From an outside perspective, isn't it possible that he's just not taking that midweek visit to MSU because he lives in Starkville? If nothing else, it will be that much better if/when AJ signs with y'all over Bama. If the family is upset at someone in the media, I don't see how that relates to the MSU staff. Plus, there's plenty of time to smooth over any misunderstandings.

Respectfully, I just don't see him signing with Ole Miss. I have no real basis for that, beyond not being able to think of a single time that we've signed a highly sought after kid from MSU's backyard.
 

vandaldawg

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Coach...

the hell out of a place that is not much different than MSU and Starkville in reality but they have changed the reality by constantly praising what they have and dogging the hell out of what we have. We are losing the PR war.

We need to change our approach some and keep the great player development foundation we have in place.

I tell you. This is something as a fanbase we need to collectively accept. Oxford IS different. It is a - and I hate to type this - better town. I say that with bile shooting up into my throat. Here's what I know: if I could wiggle my nose and transpose Starkville with Oxford minus every single bow tie wearing trust fund douchebag named Judson, I would 17ing do it. I love Starkville. I don't really want it to be Oxford. I want it to be a BETTER Starkville. And for the people that live there, and for the people that might consider moving there, it needs to be.

So, in order to avoid getting into the nuts and bolts of an urban design discussion, we need to look at Athens, and try to do everything they have done for the past 100 years from the policy and politics on down. And if doing these things to just make Starkville better isn't enough motivation, then hell, let winning recruiting battles be enough. The thing is, EVERYBODY wins if we amp up the progressive things Starkville has done in the past 20 years, sideline the idiots who still hold sway there, and put pressure on people who can make change to make GOOD changes. Also, limit the power of the church over the town.

Yes, this is a recruiting post. Rant over. Sorry.
 

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Pretty hard to "cancel" a visit that was never actually set for today. Mullen is in Georgia today. Rosebowl is pulling his once a year "I am out of the loop on a prospect -- so I'll create my own narrative -- then bash the kid when they don't fit it" and creating a needless meltdown over this topic. Brandon Bryant redux.

Show me one insider from Bama or Ole Miss that are confident in AJ going there. Rosey has been shouting from the rooftops how it doesn't look good for us -- yet no one of merit on the other side is stepping up and claiming it looks good for their teams. Looks to me like AJ is really only talking to one person in the media -- Paul Jones.
 

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I don't know why this seems like a huge surprise for many of you. It's been known for several months that we were trailing for AJ.

Maybe it's because I haven't expected us to sign him for a while, but I'm currently more concerned with holding off Oklahoma and keeping Farrar.

AJ is a kid that doesn't want to go to college in his hometown. Went through the exact same thing. Big reason why I went to school at MSU instead of Jones or USM.

I think Mullen has earned the benefit of the doubt. We had a very good class last season, and this one still may end up being solid. Our biggest concern is at OL, and signing Lashley and Reese would seemingly go a long way toward fixing that problem.

I do think it's important that we sign Kobe. Losing one of the Starkville kids isn't a disaster, but not signing either of them is a bad look.
 

coach66

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Good post, I would agree they have the advantage with the town but like you I

think Starkville is a great town and I have bought property there to prove it. I do think we have the better university overall and appeal to a broader base of non-stereotypical people.
We need to improve the town and improve our marketing without losing who we are and what we stand for.
 

coach66

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Like Stan's, Hugh doesn't mind coming out of his own pocket to get the job done.

There is wisdom here Dan, you make 4 million a year.
 

TSUNBearHunter

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Pretty hard to "cancel" a visit that was never actually set for today. Mullen is in Georgia today. Rosebowl is pulling his once a year "I am out of the loop on a prospect -- so I'll create my own narrative -- then bash the kid when they don't fit it" and creating a needless meltdown over this topic. Brandon Bryant redux.

Show me one insider from Bama or Ole Miss that are confident in AJ going there. Rosey has been shouting from the rooftops how it doesn't look good for us -- yet no one of merit on the other side is stepping up and claiming it looks good for their teams. Looks to me like AJ is really only talking to one person in the media -- Paul Jones.

Paul and 247 had him visiting today. http://247sports.com/Player/AJ-Brown-37735

Just when Rosebowl was gaining the hearts of MSU fans back with his insider predictions of NOA's and impending doom for OM, he gets thrown back under the bus for reporting what he knows on Brown. You guys sure are hot and cold with him.
 
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