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WayneDougan_rivals170043

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I’m not mad at Wheeler for that TO when he threw it over Oscar’s head out of bounds because Cal was shell-shocked and couldn’t set up an offense to beat a zone.

And regarding Cal’s approach to take the air out of the ball late. Yes, other coaches do it. But if I had lost multiple tournament games when I had a lead late and my team kept on having either a) shot clock violations or b) late in the shot clock 19 footers, I’d adjust my approach and tell them to just play.

I’m convinced Brady can cover that buyout with just his NFT collection. Quit being selfish, Brady.
 
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bradyjames_rivals

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Feb 4, 2004
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-Almost took down Caesar’s Palace last night. Beat that a$$ so bad they put us up in the Rain Man suite for a few days. 13,16,18 and 19 got hot. Stevie, Wes, Tamme and Keenan still doing God’s work.

-The Rain Man suite is overrated. The Hangover suite is a myth. They filmed the interior hotel scenes in studio.

-Valley of Fire and Zion were really cool. I like it out west. Curious how many folks fall and die at Zion per year. It ain’t zero.

-Imagine a good basketball coach at 5 million per. Then put that 3 million extra into the UK assistant FB pool? My goodness, Stoops would roll.
 
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MudererofCrows

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TCPUKChamps said:
Points scored in final four games:
2011 UCONN - 55
2012 UL - 69
2012 KU - 67
2014 Wisconsin - 74
2014 UCONN - 54
2015 Wisconsin - 64

With the amount of talent UK had those years, it's a scathing indictment on the in-game strategy of the $9 million man

(I'm still in the anger phase)
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I hope I get to the point of apathy. I feel like when I look around here I’m banging my head against a wall sometimes.

I think this is going to get real ugly and this off-season is going to kick off the shitshow.
 
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uk_bill

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Sep 12, 2002
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Reasons why I'm done with Bum *** Cal as our coach is when watching a game I hate feeling:

We see a zone? We are screwed
We see a press? We are screwed
Inbounds play? We are screwed
Late lead? We are screwed

The lack of proper roster management season to season gets old. The lack of progression of most of our players, many who end up thriving after they leave gets old. Hearing same old cliche excuses gets old.

But the absolute refusal to do any actual in game coaching is why I want Cal gone.
 
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Century Cat

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Jan 3, 2003
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wcc31 said:
@Century Cat - what you thinking, buddy?
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Hey buddy - welllll, if you really want to know, I haven't found my optimism yet, so you may not want to read this. This loss broke me in new ways.

It's taken me a while to stop seething with rage, and I'm left with nothing except lots of questions.

-If, with 3 minutes to go, we have (a) a 6 point lead and possession of the ball; (b) the newly-minted NPOY; and (c) the most experienced backcourt that Cal has had; and we still can't put away 15 seed -----> what more is it going to take?

-If that same experienced backcourt can't hit shots or FTs down the stretch - *and it's not a one-off or fluke, given that it has happened to nearly all of Cal's teams year-in and year-out* -----> what's going to change?

-If Cal still hasn't learned his lesson about stalling with a lead -----> when will he?

-If a team that had perhaps the 2 best performances in this cbb season, in latter half of January, loaded with vets who are still learning to play together, doesn't improve by March but actually falls off a cliff (injuries, I know, whatever) -----> when can I ever look at a team at midseason and have confidence they have what it takes? How can I ever trust them to peak in March? And how will the makeup of that team be different / better than what we just saw?

To paraphrase Cal, he doesn't have to be the best Xs and Os guy in the business - he just can't be the worst. Actually he probably could be the worst and still succeed if he listened to his assistants instead of panicking and shouting them down. -----> If after all this time, Cal's m.o. of tightening up in close games has not changed, when will it?

(Same sort of thing would happen in Rupp's later years. During timeouts hey would let him rant, then Harry Lancaster would calmly and rationally tell the team what they needed to do, and they would go do it. Despite his massive ego, Rupp knew when to listen to his assistants. They're there for a reason).

-Obviously our staff can coach, they turned Oscar into NPOY.
-----> How many NPOYs are we going to have without taking advantage of it and making a deep run?

-Obviously our guys were capable of shooting and scoring, we led the SEC in ppg. -----> If we're going to revert to a dogshit performance when it matters, then what was the point of the past 4 months?

This one is hitting me worse than most. It has shaken my faith in what I thought I knew about cbb after watching it for the past 45 years. Homerism aside, I felt it with this team. We had all the ingredients, and we pissed it all away in shocking fashion.

I appreciate all the changes that Calipari did make, and maybe it's a positive trend that starts with baby steps. But from now on, I'm going to have to see it happen before I believe it.

Our other painful losses over the years have been thoroughly dissected. The worst thing about this one, it robbed me of hope, faith and trust. And that has never happened before.

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cut_itloosedoubledeuce

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Century Cat said:
Hey buddy - welllll, if you really want to know, I haven't found my optimism yet, so you may not want to read this. This loss broke me in new ways.

It's taken me a while to stop seething with rage, and I'm left with nothing except lots of questions.

-If, with 3 minutes to go, we have (a) a 6 point lead and possession of the ball; (b) the newly-minted NPOY; and (c) the most experienced backcourt that Cal has had; and we still can't put away 15 seed -----> what more is it going to take?

-If that same experienced backcourt can't hit shots or FTs down the stretch - *and it's not a one-off or fluke, given that it has happened to nearly all of Cal's teams year-in and year-out* -----> what's going to change?

-If Cal still hasn't learned his lesson about stalling with a lead -----> when will he?

-If a team that had perhaps the 2 best performances in this cbb season, in latter half of January, loaded with vets who are still learning to play together, doesn't improve by March but actually falls off a cliff (injuries, I know, whatever) -----> when can I ever look at a team at midseason and have confidence they have what it takes? How can I ever trust them to peak in March? And how will the makeup of that team be different / better than what we just saw?

To paraphrase Cal, he doesn't have to be the best Xs and Os guy in the business - he just can't be the worst. Actually he probably could be the worst and still succeed if he listened to his assistants instead of panicking and shouting them down. -----> If after all this time, Cal's m.o. of tightening up in close games has not changed, when will it?

(Same sort of thing would happen in Rupp's later years. During timeouts hey would let him rant, then Harry Lancaster would calmly and rationally tell the team what they needed to do, and they would go do it. Despite his massive ego, Rupp knew when to listen to his assistants. They're there for a reason).

-Obviously our staff can coach, they turned Oscar into NPOY.
-----> How many NPOYs are we going to have without taking advantage of it and making a deep run?

-Obviously our guys were capable of shooting and scoring, we led the SEC in ppg. -----> If we're going to revert to a dogshit performance when it matters, then what was the point of the past 4 months?

This one is hitting me worse than most. It has shaken my faith in what I thought I knew about cbb after watching it for the past 45 years. Homerism aside, I felt it with this team. We had all the ingredients, and we pissed it all away in shocking fashion.

I appreciate all the changes that Calipari did make, and maybe it's a positive trend that starts with baby steps. But from now on, I'm going to have to see it happen before I believe it.

Our other painful losses over the years have been thoroughly dissected. The worst thing about this one, it robbed me of hope, faith and trust. And that has never happened before.

/
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We are all inferior posters.
 
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tallkat70

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All of the metrics indicate that as as an in-game coach, the George Costanza opposite theory is the best recipe for success.
 
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UnfrozenCatfanLawyer

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Century Cat said:
Hey buddy - welllll, if you really want to know, I haven't found my optimism yet, so you may not want to read this. This loss broke me in new ways.

It's taken me a while to stop seething with rage, and I'm left with nothing except lots of questions.

-If, with 3 minutes to go, we have (a) a 6 point lead and possession of the ball; (b) the newly-minted NPOY; and (c) the most experienced backcourt that Cal has had; and we still can't put away 15 seed -----> what more is it going to take?

-If that same experienced backcourt can't hit shots or FTs down the stretch - *and it's not a one-off or fluke, given that it has happened to nearly all of Cal's teams year-in and year-out* -----> what's going to change?

-If Cal still hasn't learned his lesson about stalling with a lead -----> when will he?

-If a team that had perhaps the 2 best performances in this cbb season, in latter half of January, loaded with vets who are still learning to play together, doesn't improve by March but actually falls off a cliff (injuries, I know, whatever) -----> when can I ever look at a team at midseason and have confidence they have what it takes? How can I ever trust them to peak in March? And how will the makeup of that team be different / better than what we just saw?

To paraphrase Cal, he doesn't have to be the best Xs and Os guy in the business - he just can't be the worst. Actually he probably could be the worst and still succeed if he listened to his assistants instead of panicking and shouting them down. -----> If after all this time, Cal's m.o. of tightening up in close games has not changed, when will it?

(Same sort of thing would happen in Rupp's later years. During timeouts hey would let him rant, then Harry Lancaster would calmly and rationally tell the team what they needed to do, and they would go do it. Despite his massive ego, Rupp knew when to listen to his assistants. They're there for a reason).

-Obviously our staff can coach, they turned Oscar into NPOY.
-----> How many NPOYs are we going to have without taking advantage of it and making a deep run?

-Obviously our guys were capable of shooting and scoring, we led the SEC in ppg. -----> If we're going to revert to a dogshit performance when it matters, then what was the point of the past 4 months?

This one is hitting me worse than most. It has shaken my faith in what I thought I knew about cbb after watching it for the past 45 years. Homerism aside, I felt it with this team. We had all the ingredients, and we pissed it all away in shocking fashion.

I appreciate all the changes that Calipari did make, and maybe it's a positive trend that starts with baby steps. But from now on, I'm going to have to see it happen before I believe it.

Our other painful losses over the years have been thoroughly dissected. The worst thing about this one, it robbed me of hope, faith and trust. And that has never happened before.

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The Aristocrats!
 
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GrandePdre

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If Cal were a Seinfeld season.

"I KNOW what a timeout is!"
"I don't think ya do. If you did, you'd have used it to call a play at the end of regulation."

"Toppin only logged 16 minutes and was on the bench down the stretch, Cal."
"Was that wrong?"

"I gotta get in on that 'modern basketball.' I'm late on everything!"

"The First Round was angry that day my friends."

"Welcome to the First Round of the NCAA Tournament featuring...."
"I'M OUT!"
 
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IsRichieGonnaStart

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Feb 16, 2006
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Let’s not forget scoring a a blistering 62 points against WOFFORD in 2019 then barley scoring another 62 whopping points against Houston in the next round with PJ Washington, Tyler Hero, Keldon Kohnson and Immanuel Quickley on the roster. Every single one of those dudes has at one point been a starter and played a significant role for their respective team in the NBA.
 
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TCPUKChamps

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Dec 18, 2002
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Kentucky points in all NCAA Tourney Games since the $9 million man

2010: (Full Season PPG - 79.2)
ETSU - 100
Wake Forest - 90
Cornell - 62
West Virginia 66

2011: (Full Season PPG - 74.8)
Princeton - 59
West Virginia - 71
Ohio State - 62
UNC - 76
UCONN - 55

2012: (Full Season PPG - 77.37)
WKU - 81
Iowa State - 87
Indiana - 102
Baylor - 82
Louisville - 69
Kansas - 67

2014: (Full Season PPG - 74.8)
Kansas State - 56
Wischita State - 78
Louisville - 74
Michigan - 75
Wisconsin - 74
UCONN - 54

2015: (Full Season PPG - 74.35 HOWWWWW!!!???)
Hampton - 79
Cincinnati - 64
West Virginia - 78
Notre Dame - 68
Wisconsin - 64

2016 (Full Season PPG - 79.47)
Stony Brook - 85
Indiana - 67

2017 (Full Season PPG - 84.86)
NKU - 79
Wichita State - 65
UCLA - 86
UNC - 73

2018 (Full Season PPG - 76.75)
Davidson - 78
Buffalo - 95
Kansas State - 58

2019 (Full Season PPG - 75.8)
Abilene Christian - 79
Wofford - 62
Houston - 62
Auburn - 71 (OT)

2022 (Full Season PPG - 79.44)
St Peters - 79 (OT)
 
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TCPUKChamps

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Is it? I would argue when you have the superior talent advantage you should be forcing your tempo on the other team:

Prior National Champs and PPG in tourney
2021 Baylor: (82.9 PPG full season)
79, 76, 62, 81, 78, 86 (77 PPG)

2019 Virginia: (71.4 PPG full season)
71, 62, 53, 80, 63, 85 (Effing Virginia averaged 69 ppg during their title run)

2018 Villanova: (86.6 PPG full season)
87, 81, 90, 71, 95, 79 (83.83 PPG)

2017 UNC: (84.4 PPG full season)
103, 72, 92, 75, 77, 71 (81.67 PPG)

2016 Villanova: (78 PPG full season)
86, 87, 92, 64, 95, 77 (83.5 PPG)

2015 Duke: (79.3 PPG full season)
85, 68, 63, 66, 81, 68 (71.83 PPG)

Meanwhile Kentucky on average in NCAA
2010 - Right at their full season PPG
2011 - 10 ppg less in tourney then full season 74-64
2012 - 4 PPG NCAA above full season PPG (No surprise they won the title)
2014 - 6 PPG NCAA below full season PPG (Close compared to prior champs)
2015 - 5 PPG NCAA below full season PPG (Once again, close, but with that talent, unacceptable)
2016 - 3 PPG NCAA below full season PPG (But only 2 games)
2017 - 9 PPG NCAA below full season PPG
2018 - Right at their full season PPG
2019 - 7 PPG NCAA below full season PPG
2022 - Right on it, but only one game and OT versus a 15 seed

I'm not making any "takes" just throwing out numbers. The only year the team was scoring more PPG in tourney then regular season was the year they won it all. So the "playing their best ball in March" statement doesn't necessarily ring true. And once again, you could argue they've had more pure talent on the roster then their opponents most of the losses.

When you cut down possessions AND don't shoot a lot of 3's, you are ripe for an upset in March.
 
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