Ty Ty back next year?

[LineSkiCat14]

The thing is, Cal can't keep emphasizing the players-first part if he's not winning games. He's going to have to try and keep guys like Ty or Sharpe.. almost in a way that says "my job and legacy is on the line". When we were winning, fine. But hes just lost too much recently to NOT put the program and win column first.

I'd like to think he realizes this and starts to emphasize winning over helping a freshman get to the NBA.

We'll see in the next few months. The good thing is that either way.. were moving towards winning again: cal continues to make changes or we find ourselves with a new coach in a year or two.

 

[StaticKat]

I’d love to have him back but don’t do this to yourselves boys. Same thing every offseason. When’s the last 1st round guy (much less projected lottery) to surprise us and return? I’ll hang up and listen

For the life of me, I can't understand how TyTy is considered first round material.. much less a lottery pick. There's probably 8-10 better guards in the SEC alone!

 

[STL_Cat]

Again, I don’t think he comes back but the twins came back (along with Dakari and WCS) and PJ Washington came back. I don’t tend to count Terrence Jones because that had more to do with the lockout, but it’s happened.

I don’t recall if the twins were projected 1st round, I don’t believe either of them were. PJ probably not either after his 1st year. WCS got injured in the tournament and was coming back from that, also not sure he was a projected first rounder.

Don’t get me wrong, I know you’re not predicting a Washington return. Or even expecting it. But what I’m looking at is he’s projected in the lottery, every mock I’ve seen. And none of those guys you named, albeit good players, were projected anywhere near that when they made their decision to return. I’m basing this on everyone else that has been projected in that range. Washington could do it, but he’d literally be the first.

 

[WildcatNC]

Again, I don’t think he comes back but the twins came back (along with Dakari and WCS) and PJ Washington came back. I don’t tend to count Terrence Jones because that had more to do with the lockout, but it’s happened.

It's how we ended up with that 15 team and Platoons.

It's happened regularly if not often. It's more common that we lose more players than we should though, but it happens.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Just building the brand and suspense. Tyty had his eye on the door starting at the end of the regular season

 

[STL_Cat]

It's how we ended up with that 15 team and Platoons.

It's happened regularly if not often. It's more common that we lose more players than we should though, but it happens.

Look, I’m asking y’all if you can name for me one dude, just one, that’s been projected lottery and returned to Kentucky under Cal? Can’t tell me this has happened regularly. Dudes have returned. All of em have been projected outside the 1st round. Not the same thing here. You’re not going to be able to come up with anyone who fits this profile that’s returned. It is what it is. Here’s to hoping Washington is the first.

 

[bigsmoothie]

Look, I’m asking y’all if you can name for me one dude, just one, that’s been projected lottery and returned to Kentucky under Cal? Can’t tell me this has happened regularly. Dudes have returned. All of em have been projected outside the 1st round. Not the same thing here. You’re not going to be able to come up with anyone who fits this profile that’s returned. It is what it is. Here’s to hoping Washington is the first.

No player at any school stays if they are a lottery pick. None.

 

[STL_Cat]

No player at any school stays if they are a lottery pick. None.

Fine, I’m not saying it’s a bad thing or a good thing or a Kentucky thing. It’s just a reality thing. Guys don’t stay when they’re projected in the lottery. I mentioned Kentucky because we’re talking about Kentucky. Don’t get so anxious to defend all the time.

 

[Bhad Rhabies]

I mean rumors he made a million+ in NIL, so he isn’t hurting for money, but I still wouldn’t come back if I were him.

If he can go in the first round he should leave, a couple more ankle injuries and NBA teams will be real gun shy about his durability, could cost him even more draft stock to come back.

Also our coach is terrible and TyTy’s dad has rose colored glasses on if he’s calling Shaheen Holloway’s inferior the “GOAT”

John Calipari might not be a top 5 coach in the SEC.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Yeah I dont know how Ty is a lottery pick. He seems to be riding that 17 assist and 30pt game.. but I just don't see it.. maybe a late 1st rounder.

Also have to wonder if not only this last game hurt his stock, but also if other players show out for the rest of the tournament.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

Yeah I dont know how Ty is a lottery pick. He seems to be riding that 17 assist and 30pt game.. but I just don't see it.. maybe a late 1st rounder.

Also have to wonder if not only this last game hurt his stock, but also if other players show out for the rest of the tournament.

He defiantly didn't help himself v a #15 seed did he?
Shameful.
If he does leave I will remember him for air balling a 15 footer that could have won it at the buzzer for UK.

 

[Randy Bob]

It would be great if TyTy does come back.

 

[WildcatNC]

Look, I’m asking y’all if you can name for me one dude, just one, that’s been projected lottery and returned to Kentucky under Cal? Can’t tell me this has happened regularly. Dudes have returned. All of em have been projected outside the 1st round. Not the same thing here. You’re not going to be able to come up with anyone who fits this profile that’s returned. It is what it is. Here’s to hoping Washington is the first.

In my original post nor your original question did you say lottery, so I wasn't addressing that specifically. Just good players returning.

Almost no lottery players return anywhere. Like I said somewhere else though, I'm not sure that TyTy hasn't played his way out of the lottery late in the season. Maybe, maybe not. Probably still top 20 regardless. Have to think he's dropped a few spots with his play late.

 

[bigsmoothie]

He defiantly didn't help himself v a #15 seed did he?
Shameful.
If he does leave I will remember him for air balling a 15 footer that could have won it at the buzzer for UK.

I’ll remember his love of the game, what a great teammate he was, and how he was possible the best freshman guard in the country before he got hurt. But that’s just me. You are free to hate him.

 

[STL_Cat]

In my original post nor your original question did you say lottery, so I wasn't addressing that specifically. Just good players returning.

Almost no lottery players return anywhere. Like I said somewhere else though, I'm not sure that TyTy hasn't played his way out of the lottery late in the season. Maybe, maybe not. Probably still top 20 regardless. Have to think he's dropped a few spots with his play late.

I apologize if I wasn’t clear, seriously. I know we’ve had guys come back. But my point all along here is we’ve never seen anyone projected where Washington is projected return. Just hasn’t happened.

 

[OmahaCats]

He is the one guy I am sure is gone but if he and Oscar and everyone wanted to come back for redemption at least that be something.

In 2011 a lot of players came back which helped win in 2012 (I know NBA lockout had some to do with that)
In 2014 a lot of players came back which helped go 38-0 to start in 2015.

Virginia was able to lose to UMBC then win it all because all their guys come back.

We need Oscar and Sharpe to come back (it be a huge monster bonus if TyTy joined them)

None of those 3 will be at Kentucky next year. Hopefully you can see that . We’ll still have a good roster though. Crossing my fingers for a second round exit

 

[WildcatNC]

I apologize if I wasn’t clear, seriously. I know we’ve had guys come back. But my point all along here is we’ve never seen anyone projected where Washington is projected return. Just hasn’t happened.

I don't expect it either, like I said. Not probable, just possible. This team was really close. Oscar isn't a top 10 pick like most of our best players on contenders. TyTy is borderline lottery, but a top 5-10 talent when at his best. Wheelers only choice is overseas really. Just saying the factors in favor of it happening line up better now than most times.

Still don't expect him back. Since Cals been here you should assume everyone, good or just average is leaving. Then just be happy if they come back.

 

[jameslee32]

Not a chance. Oscar and TyTy will go in the first round. Collins is likely as well. He can eat just as well in the NBA or G League. There will always be a few surprises in this day and age also.

 

[Himmels]

There is 0% chance Ty Ty is playing for UK next year, 0% Oscar, 0% Sharpe.

 

[UKGrad93]

I won’t really concern myself with who is on the team until around next December.

 

[kyjeff1]

Yeah people act as if it's not possible for players to come back but the truth is while we've had a bunch that leave early (and some that went and shouldn't have), we've also had some stay.

And the following years teams always tended to be our best ones.

Who are these players that stayed? Any of them projected 1st round picks? I can't think of a single one.

Somehow, Tyty is a high first round pick. I'm not sure why that is, but he is.

What's funny, is the clown we have for a coach, said Sharpe, who is a projected lottery pick… "should come back to improve his position", but I bet he doesn't say that about Tyty, who certainly slipped with his post injury performances.

He's a used car salesman posing as a coach and it's quite obvious to me that he has to have incredible talent AND an NBA lockout to win a title. He's a huge fraud.

 

[ukwildcat2004]

I don’t recall if the twins were projected 1st round, I don’t believe either of them were. PJ probably not either after his 1st year. WCS got injured in the tournament and was coming back from that, also not sure he was a projected first rounder.

Don’t get me wrong, I know you’re not predicting a Washington return. Or even expecting it. But what I’m looking at is he’s projected in the lottery, every mock I’ve seen. And none of those guys you named, albeit good players, were projected anywhere near that when they made their decision to return. I’m basing this on everyone else that has been projected in that range. Washington could do it, but he’d literally be the first.

Fairly certain PJ was extremely late first round or early 2nd round when he returned same as WCS. I don't recall a top 20 pick returning.

 

[kyjeff1]

I guess you can sit out next season then. Good riddance

Says the guy that lost a permaban bet.

I hope you and Calipari leave together tomorrow.

 

[kyjeff1]

I won’t believe any of our guys are back until I hear it out of their own mouth. I’m not wasting my time hearing about speculation or getting my hopes up.

Hate to be that guy, but I have to state the obvious. You literally are wasting your time on speculation. I mean, you took the time to read through the thread, create a post and post it and now, you're reading my reply about it.

 

[NoahColeLiam2024!]

Hate to be that guy, but I have to state the obvious. You literally are wasting your time on speculation. I mean, you took the time to read through the thread, create a post and post it and now, you're reading my reply about it.

I’m more referencing scrolling through twitter, clicking on links, reading articles. I used to follow any and all prospects closely. I’m done with that. As far as this board goes, I have always wasted too much time here. That never seems to change.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I think by now everyone here is aware of the likelihood of people returning/not returning. I doubt many put much stock into things anymore.

It's just a little talking point given the offseason for us has officially begun.

 

[Wildcats1st]

If we have TyTy, Sharpe, and Wallace, we aren't losing very much next year.

Not to mention Wheeler.

Wheeler need to move on if tyty returns he needs to be be Full time pg and I don’t want to hear **** about it. The guy full season at pg will beat wheelers assist total this year. Hell he had 17 in stinking 1 game with 2 turnovers. Don’t want to see wheeler again in a uk uniform. Sorry

 

[American Dragon]

With NIL money, it wouldn't surprise me if he came back. A Kentucky player can make a ton of money.

 

[BBNinSC_rivals62411]

I see now , lol . Then I have no problem with a parent showing support for his son’s coach

I think he’s showing support for our HOF coach in face of all the negativity.

 

[LmdCat]

Interesting wording from Ty Ty’s dad.

TyTy's father so what his son looked like at this end of this season. Washington isn't ready to go anywhere but to the weight room. If he leaves, for his sake it should be via the transfer portal. He isn't even close to being NBA ready. Heck, he isn't ready for the D league or G league or whatever its called.

 

[philstat]

Interesting wording from Ty Ty’s dad.

Zero chance.

 

[JwUKFan11]

There is 0% chance Ty Ty is playing for UK next year, 0% Oscar, 0% Sharpe.

This simply isn’t true. I can’t stand when people try and act like this is true. I said the same thing last year about Jackson. It’s unlikely they come back but not 0%. This is also the first off-season with NIL which we will have to see if that has any impact on some of the fringe guys.

 

[Crums Bald Spot]

His dad is just playing the "we haven't decided yet" game when in reality the decision was made long ago. As long as he doesn't fall out of the 1st round, which he looks to be solidly in, he's gone.

 

[Wildcats1st]

There is 0% chance Ty Ty is playing for UK next year, 0% Oscar, 0% Sharpe.

The only way cal saves his *** is if all 3 of these guys are on the roster next year

nil has changed the calculus for these players

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

This simply isn’t true. I can’t stand when people try and act like this is true. I said the same thing last year about Jackson. It’s unlikely they come back but not 0%. This is also the first off-season with NIL which we will have to see if that has any impact on some of the fringe guys.

Exactly. Too many people putting 0% and 100% chances on things.

We don't know what impact the NIL will have on all of this. Maybe guys do come back with that in place that normally would not have. Or maybe the same amount make the leap.

 

[HerrosHeroes]

The only way cal saves his *** is if all 3 of these guys are on the roster next year

nil has changed the calculus for these players

This may be UKs and Cal’s only saving grace.

 

[yoshukai]

I think he’s showing support for our HOF coach in face of all the negativity.

Yeah , he’s HOF coach , just like Jim Boeheim . And we’re on the exact same path as Syracuse.

 

[STL_Cat]

This simply isn’t true. I can’t stand when people try and act like this is true. I said the same thing last year about Jackson. It’s unlikely they come back but not 0%. This is also the first off-season with NIL which we will have to see if that has any impact on some of the fringe guys.

I remember you saying that to me when I said there was a 0% chance Jackson returned to UK last year.

sure glad I was wrong

 

[kywildcats8]

Hope he wants a year 2, he’d have a huge impact and improve his stock

I watch a lot of college basketball and I have watched 20-30 guards I would draft before TyTy- no idea how he is ranked so high- not quick, not a great athlete, not a great handler of the bball so not sure what scouts see in him- he 100% should come back

 

[jimmybuffet123]

Tyty is either

a. Not going to be much in nba
b. Cal has done a **** job of developing him