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Here is a positive article on the Golden Triangle.
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-new-industrial-belt-the-deep-south/361207/
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/04/the-new-industrial-belt-the-deep-south/361207/
I was on a public bus in Chicago a couple years ago. Our MS group was talking amongst ourselves, and like usual, someone asks where we are from because of our accents. This black lady says she has relatives in Mississippi, but she is afraid to go visit them "because they hang people down there". I just shook my head.
Question: if you know someone is a journalist writing an article about the flag and you proudly show a "I voted for the white guy" sticker, that has to at least lend credence to some of the flag crowd being ignorant. I know intelligent pro flag people who would decline commenting b/c they don't want to be portrayed that way. Instead, people were proud to toe the line of racism while supporting the flag.
I thought times were changing for the better and greatly undestimated the pro-flag crowd. I'm in the metro and drive south to the coast almost weekly. You see plenty of the big trucks flying the confederate battle flag in Madison Co and on the Coast. Hwy 49 between Jackson and the Coast might as well be renamed the corridor of hate. It's wild how "in your face" it is. I'm all for freedom of speech so I don't mind people voicing their opinion, I'm shocked how many still have that opinion.
I say all that not to deny that that writer had an agenda but why would you supply them with gasoline and wood? That at least points to the "agenda" having some truth to it.
I thought times were changing for the better and greatly undestimated the pro-flag crowd. I'm in the metro and drive south to the coast almost weekly. You see plenty of the big trucks flying the confederate battle flag in Madison Co and on the Coast. Hwy 49 between Jackson and the Coast might as well be renamed the corridor of hate. It's wild how "in your face" it is. I'm all for freedom of speech so I don't mind people voicing their opinion, I'm shocked how many still have that opinion.
I say all that not to deny that that writer had an agenda but why would you supply them with gasoline and wood? That at least points to the "agenda" having some truth to it.
It's not when many people use it as the statistic behind their so-called "charitable giving".
Get it right: these people aren't making MS look bad, we are doing that to ourselves, they are just commenting on it.
What is all this 'proud heritage' that the flag is supposed to represent? I ask this question as a 50 something year old white guy who has spent most of my life here. Both of my Great Grandfathers fought for the confederacy. I'm as white as they come. What is it we'll lose if we remove a symbol that a good portion of our population associates with racism and slavery? Last I checked we LOST the war. We got our asses handed to us. It was ill conceived and stupid to think we could take on the north without an army or navy or any type of industry to support a war when they had all those things. We continued to fight via Jim Crow and LOST again. Every time we have butted heads with this issue we have LOST. Yet we continue to defiantly wave our symbol - the symbol of the loser. And not only that but we erect statues on every courthouse lawn in the state dedicated to 'Our Hero's' as the inscription on the one here in my home town says. How much of a laughing stock would say, Alabama, be if they erected a monument to their 6-3 loss to us outside Bryant-Denny stadium and had their fans walk past it before every home game? That's exactly what we do. No wonder we're last in everything we do. We proudly wave the symbol of the loser.
I don't live in the northeast. Far from it.
But I do find it awesomely hilarious that you would insinuate that a writer for the Washington Post is of average intelligence and/or wrote an article pandering to their customer base of people with average intelligence. If you can't see through all of your rah-rah BS and see that Mississippi clearly has a problem in regards to acceptance, stubbornness, and ignorance... I can't help you.
But please. Continue to blame all of the countries' problems on DAMN YANKEES AND THE LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!! instead of seeing a very blatant problem right in front of you.
These articles aren't written about Arkansas or any of the other southern states with systemic racism or poor statistics.
But I do find it awesomely hilarious that you would insinuate that a writer for the Washington Post is of average intelligence and/or wrote an article pandering to their customer base of people with average intelligence. If you can't see through all of your rah-rah BS and see that Mississippi clearly has a problem in regards to acceptance, stubbornness, and ignorance... I can't help you.
But please. Continue to blame all of the countries' problems on DAMN YANKEES AND THE LIBERAL MEDIA!!!!! instead of seeing a very blatant problem right in front of you.
These articles aren't written about Arkansas or any of the other southern states with systemic racism or poor statistics.
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Funny you say that, I saw a confederate demonstration heading in to St. Andrews (PC) for dinner on Monday.
I honestly don't know. I've never thought about that angle. I don't know how those lists are calculated. That's a valid question. My main point was that it was another negative outsider's view from those "Perfect" North Eastern cities.
Good gosh, you really are an insufferable jack ***. You would also think after 7 years of stimulus failed to stimulate the economy that certain people would get a clue. 7 years of failed policies haven't clued people in - complain about that for awhile. Al Gore's hockey stick never happened, we have had a 15 year "pause" in warming, evidence points to a mini ice age coming, and yet we have still wasted billions fighting the windmill that is man made GW. Complain about that. Maybe if we weren't wasting trillions of dollars every year giving out welfare, free houses, free phones, free food, fighting GW, free health insurance, "stimulating" the economy, bail outs, sending foreign aid to our enemies, and - insert another 100 liberal money wasting policies here - we would actually have enough money to better fund the things that are actually important (EDUCATION, law enforcement, border control, etc). You can't have your cake and eat it too. Rant over. I'm out.
By the way - yes, get rid of the flag. I've never heard one good reason to keep it. The article is embarrassing.
That's just not plausible. He probably witnessed everything he wrote, but obviously he cherry picked what parts he witnessed to write about. Even the Neshoba County fair isn't that homogenous, unless he pointedly avoided talking to anybody not carrying a confederate flag.
The CSA didn't want to "take on" the USA.
They wanted to leave the USA, and they wanted the USA to leave the CSA.
They wanted to leave the USA, and they wanted the USA to leave the CSA.
Haha. What...the....literal....17, dude? Talk about going on a talking-points fueled tangent. Where did I even bring up welfare? climate change? Hockey sticks? Al Gore, ha? Btw, dipshit, Al Gore didn't come up with the "hockey stick graph", which was indeed falsified, these guys did: http://www.geo.umass.edu/faculty/bradley/mann1999.pdf.
Also, if you can draw me a chart, diagram, pop-up coloring book (this may be your medium of choice, actually), etc. to show how to fix Mississippi's broken *** education system, I'm all ears.
My point on Sex Ed in MS still stands. Our state bases its curricula on religion, rather than science, which in this particular case, is 17ing stupid. If you want to teach little boys that if they have premarital sex Pillow Pants will bite their dicks off, go right ahead, but don't complain when the rest of the country laughs at you.
Bless your heart.
I'll just hope your post was meant to be taken as satire.***
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You either don't know what the meaning of insinuate is or you are really bad at logic. I think it's the latter.
I don't think you read the Washington Post much and I don't think you've been paying attention to what has happened to ad revenues and what newspapers are doing to adapt.
You can't help my because you don't understand anything. You'd have to have a little bit of reading comprehension and logic skills to just get pointed in a direction where I need help.
Tell me where there is a CEO out there who is thinking "What a proud and honorable people! I think I will move my business there because they support that flag."
I never said you commented on any of that. Your only contribution to both sports MBs you frequent is to spew liberal talking points. Hence the rant. You make fun of all things conservative or religious (exhibits A thru D above in this thread) but refuse to acknowledge the colossal failures that are most liberal policies.
You want to know the easiest way to fix education? That's simple. The same way you fix healthcare, the post office, the VA, or anything else run by the government. Privatize it. Problem solved. "Oh, but the poor people....waaaahh". The Government can reimburse them 100% all expenses every year. It will still be cheaper than the **** show we fund now, and will actually provide a quality education.
As for sex ed, I don't really care to wade into that, but the fact is that's the responsibility of the parents. Most likely unlike you, I have kids. They have been properly educated by my wife and I same as our parents did with us. It has worked fine for generations. The fact that so many people rely on public education and/or bureaucrats to do their job for them is a big part of the problem.
Your uneducated, condescending and childish attitude toward religion (and really any opposing views) flies directly in the face of your loudly proclaimed tolerance.
Now - I've said my piece. Have the last word. I wont continue to ruin a sports message board with politics, and I apologize to the others for having done so twice already.
ETA - btw, I'm well aware of Michael Mann's, the IPCC's, and Al Gore's involvement with the hockey stick. Al Gore was simply the snake oil salesman who peddled the product that was gladly gobbled up by liberal America. Gore was the one who used it to get a Nobel Prize soooo....
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One way to change demographics is to attract industry. I'd offer the Carolinas as an example. I live in SC, and coached a youth soccer team where half my players were European. I'd say that's a demographic change.
Yes, btw, we were pretty good.
Yes, btw, we were pretty good.
Oh, I didn't realize that; thanks for noticing, though. Speaking of one-sided talking points.....(I guess your posts don't qualify?)
Back on point: My initial post, which has apparently ruffled your feathers to an uncomfortable level, was directed at the ***-backwards perception vs. reality identity crisis Mississippi has with itself, hence the examples of education, and more specifically, sexual education. The Flag vs. history vs. perception is just another example.
I rarely comment on religion, btw, and certainly not in the overly negative light as you imply (I'm Episcopal after all, so God forbid I comment on the topic). If you're the person I think you may be (PMDog, perhaps?), have some perspective, dude: me "making fun of Ken Ham" is not the same as "me making fun of Christianity", as I know that post was apparently highly offensive to you back on ED. Nuance is the key.
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That guy hates Mississippi and is a bleeding heart liberal. It's obvious in every single one of his posts.
He won't listen to you shooting down everything that he said logically. He'll just spew more liberal ********.
Christ...the level of pot-meet-kettle irony in this thread is something to behold.
I'll be 40 this year. I remember as a small child learning in school about the differences in flags, U.S., state, etc. I recall never understanding why our state flag had that portion attached to it, that flag was not anything I learned about in school at that time but I knew what it was. It never made sense to me. Unfortunately as I've grown older it's become much clearer why it's there and why it continues to be there.
By answering yes to the second question, does that automatically mean I'm answering yes to the first as well?
Or is there some other force at play here....possibly supernatural...with a voice eerily similar to late Gov. Ross Barnett?
Haha, not at all. But if someone answers yes to both of those questions, then I have no desire to converse with them.
I thought it was pretty clear that these were 2 separate questions.
If you've read very many posts from esplanade91, you will realize that he hates Mississippi with a passion. I have no idea why you jumped in and started bringing up racists.
"He won't listen to you shooting down everything that he said logically. He'll just spew more liberal ********."
Do you see the irony?
I'd think it would depend, yes?
My mom's church on the coast for example, just spent a ton of money on a new fancy charter bus for events and whatnot. Not to mention, the improved remodeling they splurged on a few years ago.
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